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SaintLouieWoman
06-02-2012, 06:24 PM
Say it isn't so---some of Whole Foods frozen organic stuff is from China!! :frown-new:

SR picked up some frozen crayfish at WF a while back. I looked at the country of origin and when I saw China, it went back to the case. I won't feed my dogs stuff from China and sure in the heck won't eat it myself. There have been just too many problems for me to trust them.
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Hawkgirl
06-02-2012, 10:07 PM
Yes, I noticed that last year. I do buy their shrimp as it comes from Key West...BUT NOT ALL OF IT. You really have to read packaging. Publix also sells their frozen fish from the Far East, Thailand, Indonesia..etc. I don't trust edible imports from those places.

I got into a long conversation with the fish monger at Publix about their frozen fish. He tried to tell me Publix monitors the fish farms overseas and if it doesn't meet their standards, they fix it, or buy from another supplier. I don't buy it. Literally and figuratively. There is a reason shrimp is so cheap nowadays.

Apocalypse
06-02-2012, 10:31 PM
Yes, I noticed that last year. I do buy their shrimp as it comes from Key West...BUT NOT ALL OF IT. You really have to read packaging. Publix also sells their frozen fish from the Far East, Thailand, Indonesia..etc. I don't trust edible imports from those places.

I got into a long conversation with the fish monger at Publix about their frozen fish. He tried to tell me Publix monitors the fish farms overseas and if it doesn't meet their standards, they fix it, or buy from another supplier. I don't buy it. Literally and figuratively. There is a reason shrimp is so cheap nowadays.

Reading the packaging is fine. But not all products are required to list "Nation of Origin" on the label. I'm not sure of the loophole there. But the store I work in. Several brands don't carry it. Seems to be more the breaded items. As they tend to be caught/raised in one place, then shipped some where else to be breaded.

Far as monitoring. Probably the same as all other places. Minimal. If a problem arises, or it doesn't look good enough to sell well. Then they deal with it. Its not like they have people there at the factories or on the boats all the time inspecting it.

Rockntractor
06-02-2012, 11:25 PM
Reading the packaging is fine. But not all products are required to list "Nation of Origin" on the label. I'm not sure of the loophole there. But the store I work in. Several brands don't carry it. Seems to be more the breaded items. As they tend to be caught/raised in one place, then shipped some where else to be breaded.

Far as monitoring. Probably the same as all other places. Minimal. If a problem arises, or it doesn't look good enough to sell well. Then they deal with it. Its not like they have people there at the factories or on the boats all the time inspecting it.

Nation of origin is also in the bar code, I'll see if I can find a list.

Apocalypse
06-02-2012, 11:34 PM
Nation of origin is also in the bar code, I'll see if I can find a list.

I know what your talking about. But you can't trust that.

The first three digits of the barcode merely indicate in which country the barcode was assigned, not in which country the product was produced.

So, for example, a company that is based in Switzerland but has a manufacturing plant in China would have a Swiss barcode.

Or a US company, importing Talipia and packaging it in Cal. would have a US barcode.

Rockntractor
06-02-2012, 11:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GS1_country_codes

Country codes are not always accurate, for instance you could buy a gram of dried monkey brains with a country code of Mexico when actually the rare monkey brains may have come from Brazil and been packaged in Mexico.

Rockntractor
06-02-2012, 11:46 PM
I used Google goggles from my droid phone on an ibuprofen barcode and it brought up all the product information as well as country of origin.

Starbuck
06-03-2012, 10:13 AM
Almost all honey comes from China, goes to Vietnam or some other place for repackaging and then is shipped to the U.S.
Chinese honey is simply sugar. They remove the pollen (easy to do) to prevent experts from learning its origin. If the pollen is left in an expert can determine country and region. Buy local honey. Don't buy name brand honey.

hampshirebrit
06-03-2012, 11:48 AM
I'm hoping this isn't happening in the UK. A lot of food comes from Africa and S. America as well as from the EU, but I don't recall seeing China on any of the labels so far.

Manufactured goods, though, that's a whole nuther thing. All my kitchen appliances (Bosch) and home/mobile computing toys (Apple) were made there. I got a teddy bear from toys r us for a 2 year old recently and every single one they had on offer had a made-in-china label stuck to it.

Where possible I'll avoid buying stuff made in China, but it's becoming more difficult to do that these days. :apologetic:

Hawkgirl
06-03-2012, 12:23 PM
Almost all honey comes from China, goes to Vietnam or some other place for repackaging and then is shipped to the U.S.
Chinese honey is simply sugar. They remove the pollen (easy to do) to prevent experts from learning its origin. If the pollen is left in an expert can determine country and region. Buy local honey. Don't buy name brand honey.

I always buy local honey when I'm in GA. There is a huge difference in flavor from supermarket brand.

Apocalypse
06-03-2012, 12:24 PM
I'm hoping this isn't happening in the UK. A lot of food comes from Africa and S. America as well as from the EU, but I don't recall seeing China on any of the labels so far.

Manufactured goods, though, that's a whole nuther thing. All my kitchen appliances (Bosch) and home/mobile computing toys (Apple) were made there. I got a teddy bear from toys r us for a 2 year old recently and every single one they had on offer had a made-in-china label stuck to it.

Where possible I'll avoid buying stuff made in China, but it's becoming more difficult to do that these days. :apologetic:
It's more common then a lot of people realize. In a new global market. Of cheap labor in China and expensive gov regulations and union cost. More and more companies are fleeing to China.

Remember a few years ago almost any thing had a "Made in Mexico" label. Well now even those companies are moving to China. Its even more cheaper labor. And the people are better skilled.

Its a new fluid world. And companies will continue to exploit it. In time, if inflation continues and rising fuel prices. They may decide its just cheaper to make it here then there.

SaintLouieWoman
06-03-2012, 02:27 PM
There have been many reports of dog deaths from jerky treats from China, masquerading under major US company brands. I got started on my extreme label watching after reading so much of the number of doggie deaths.

Trader Joe's had some dog treats that seemed to be OK. I checked every word on the box, but all it said was "packaged in the US". That was a red flag. I asked one of the employees, and he couldn't find the origin of the contents. I put the box back on the shelf, not willing to take a chance.

I've noticed that most of Publix tilapia is farm raised in China or Indonesia, at least at the local Sarasota Publix stores. I bought it once. It tasted alright, but decided not to take a chance. I doubt very strongly that Publix has a representative there. Even if they have, I don't hold the integrity of China in high regard.

Retread
06-03-2012, 07:51 PM
I always buy local honey when I'm in GA. There is a huge difference in flavor from supermarket brand.

Always buy local honey and best if bought on the side of the road right outside the pasture land. It helps allergies tremendously.