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Hubie
06-11-2012, 12:32 PM
The quote's an oldie, but a goodie. He wrote it for the TV series "The West Wing"

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8265/donnell.jpg

The first person to point out everything wrong with this quote will receive one Krispy Kreme of their choice.*








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Apache
06-11-2012, 01:02 PM
Besides the revision, distortions and outright LIES, what exactly are you looking for?

obx
06-11-2012, 02:55 PM
Replace "liberals" with "Republicans".

michaelsean
06-11-2012, 03:00 PM
I've heard them call Nixon a lot of names, but never a liberal.

Lanie
06-11-2012, 10:09 PM
Define conservative.

I consider a conservative to be somebody who wishes to keep things as they are, no change. If they do want change, it's usually to change things back to what it was.

I'll use slavery as an example.

I would honestly consider the Republican Party of the 1800s to be the liberal party of that time period because they were standing up against slavery. They wanted change.

Now, let's break down who the abolitionists were.

Quakers were typically people who were against slavery. Southern Baptists was created as a denomination to defend slavery. Shameful actually. Anyway, what are Quakers and Southern Baptists today? Typically, Quakers are liberal and Southern Baptists are conservative. Southern Baptists don't want change. Quakers do.

Historically, liberals have sometimes been accused of being anti-American. That's because some of them can run their mouth a little bit too much. An example here is an abolitionist named Garrison.

http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry.php?rec=569


He contended that the United States Constitution was an illegal document for denying African Americans their freedom. If the South would not agree to create a new nation that outlawed slavery, Garrison argued that the North should secede from the United States and form its own country.

Personally, I could see his point. We originally said that slaves were not full people. What type of document is that?

I think I'll touch on the civil rights movement some. MLK is often given credit for leading this movement. You know what he was? A Socialist. He actually planned on working to help end poverty before he was shot. He stood up with Margaret Sanger and said he was proud to be around her. He was a liberal, through and through.

Moving on...
http://www.cyberlearning-world.com/nhhs/project/rfk.htm


In 1954, the supreme court decided to order integration in public schools. In 1955-1956, the Montgomery Bus Boycott was held. In 1957, a civil rights act was passed, and stretched by a second act in 1964. It was intended to secure equal rights for southern blacks in the area of all public facilities. In 1961, Kennedy became Attorney General under his brother John Kennedy. In this capacity, he was also a close advisor to his brother. After JFK was killed, Robert Kennedy became senator from New York in 1964, and that was when he became even more involved in civil rights matters.

Robert Kennedy wanted to maintain order of the FBI, to get information on blacks voting in the south. The Rackets Committee had given Robert Kennedy a favorable reputation in the south where the whites live. But he knew that it would not last. Robert Kennedy fought his whole life trying to save the rights of the blacks. Robert Kennedy then came up with a compromise bill that stated that blacks can take the stand in court.


http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/119368/American-civil-rights-movement/288198/Montgomery-bus-boycott-to-the-Voting-Rights-Act


While media attention concentrated on the urban demonstrations in Birmingham, the voter-registration campaign in rural Mississippi and Alabama, spearheaded by SNCC and groups under the auspices of the Council of Federated Organizations (COFO), stimulated the emergence of resilient indigenous leadership and the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party (MFDP). COFO director Robert Moses spearheaded a summer project in 1964 that brought together voting rights organizers and hundreds of Northern white volunteers. While the murders of three civil rights workers focused national attention on Mississippi, the MFDP, led by Fannie Lou Hamer, failed in its attempt to unseat the regular all-white delegation at the 1964 National Democratic Convention. During the following year, however, mass protests in the Alabama cities of Selma and Montgomery led Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson to introduce legislation that became the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

So there you have it, proof that liberals did bring the change.

I don't think it's fair that a group of people always fighting progressive change gets credit for the change years later. I can honestly see your side in thirty years claiming credit for some of the stuff our side works toward now. It's bullcrap. Your side is NEVER NEVER NEVER there when we're fighting for a change that helps people. Okay, I take that back. I do see conservatives in my own town working to help out a family in a cause that conservatives would usually pitch a fit to stop. I think the key is getting people to realize that the people on the other side of the fence is a human being and not just a political subject. I just don't see conservatives doing that a whole lot. I'm sorry, but I don't. You want change to turn back the clock, but that's it.

And look up conservative in the dictionary. It's people who want things to stay the same.

Apache
06-11-2012, 10:34 PM
Ummm Lanie, That piece is a direct attack on the opposition. The facts don't support his position, sorry...:blue:


He interchanges Republican with conservatives and then trashes history to support his claim.

Apocalypse
06-11-2012, 10:59 PM
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I'll let you guys tear lanie a new one. But I'll offer the awnser you seek.

First off that quote does not come from a speech or from a monologue or commentary on O’Donnell’s MSNBC show.

So where does it come from?

The NBC Show “The West Wing“ The Debate (7.7) Spoken by Jimmy Smits (Santos)

Now one can go deep into the whole thing, but it was a fictional piece written for a fictional TV show.

Yet liberals fail once again to tell the difference from fact and fiction.

Retread
06-11-2012, 11:12 PM
Nobody pays any attention to Lanie (except maybe novatwit) - he's always out of it.

Dan D. Doty
06-12-2012, 12:01 AM
Of course Liberals can't ( like that ever stopped 'em) claim credit for ending the Cold War and allowing 400 million plus people to live under Liberty instead of brutal didtatorship and reducing the chance of nuclear war.

txradioguy
06-12-2012, 04:48 AM
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Everything above Written by Lawrence O'Donnell, Jr. is false.

txradioguy
06-12-2012, 04:56 AM
I think I'll touch on the civil rights movement some. MLK is often given credit for leading this movement. You know what he was? A Socialist. He actually planned on working to help end poverty before he was shot. He stood up with Margaret Sanger and said he was proud to be around her. He was a liberal, through and through.

Umm...you're wrong.


It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.

Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.


http://www.humanevents.com/2006/08/16/why-martin-luther-king-was-republican/


I could post more...however that little bit right there blows your full of shit revisionist Libtard history straight out of the water.

One of these days Lanie/Bridget...you really need to learn to think for yourself.

It will save you a ton of embarrassment.

Adam Wood
06-12-2012, 08:24 AM
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*Offer subject to the off chance that we ever meet in real life.Well, let's see:


It was liberals who took away Black's right to vote in the first place. Liberals created So-So Security, but it damn sure hasn't lifted a single person out of poverty. Liberals created segregation in the first place. Actually, it was Republicans who created the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Liberals did indeed create Medicare, and it's been an unmitigated disaster ever since. Richard Nixon, while certainly not a far-Right conservative, wasn't a liberal. Conservatives did not oppose those things, you moron. As Apocalypse pointed out, this wasn't Dumbfuck O'Donnell; he's far too stupid to come up with anything this original.

Gina
06-12-2012, 08:50 AM
Margaret Sanger was trying to control the black population. Look her up, she was a racist of the highest degree. Didn't you ever wonder why most Planned Parenthood offices are in minority neighborhoods? Come on.

June 10, 1964, was a dramatic day in the United States Senate. For the first time in its history, cloture was invoked on a civil rights bill, ending a record-breaking filibuster by Democrats that had consumed fifty-seven working days. The hero of the hour was minority leader Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen (R-Ill.).

On June 10, 1964, Democrats filibustered the Civil Rights Act.
Grand Old Partisan reported, via DANEgerus:


On this day in 1964, Everett Dirksen (R-IL), the Republican Leader in the U.S. Senate, condemned the Democrats’ 57-day filibuster against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Leading the Democrats in their opposition to civil rights for African-Americans was Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV). Byrd, who got into politics as a recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan, spoke against the bill for fourteen straight hours. Democrats still call Robert Byrd “the conscience of the Senate.”

In his speech, Senator Dirksen called on the Democrats to end their filibuster and accept racial equality.

Michael Zak wrote about this in his book Back to Basics for the Republican Party and reminds us that Democrats, the party of Slavery, Secession, Segregation and the KKK… fought against equality.
Link (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/06/on-this-day-in-1964-democrats-filibustered-the-civil-rights-act/)

Wibbins
06-12-2012, 12:21 PM
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Of course liberals think conservatives opposed all that, because liberals think the parties magically switched sides when a Reagan Aide mentioned something about "southern strategy"

AmPat
06-12-2012, 01:27 PM
The problem Larry, is that you are attempting to label yourself a liberal in the classical sense. In today's diseased liberal mindset, you have to suspend independent thought and embrace the lunacy and idiocy of your masters. There is a world of difference in classical liberalism and the progressive nonsense of today's DIMoRAT party.

Madisonian
06-12-2012, 08:15 PM
yada, yada, yada, blah, blah liberals good, conservatives bad, same old same old

To quote the Articulate Anthropoid Primate...

"Jesus Wept"

Hubie
06-12-2012, 10:41 PM
Crap. I owe a lot of people donuts now.

Rockntractor
06-12-2012, 10:44 PM
Crap. I owe a lot of people donuts now.

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RobJohnson
06-15-2012, 12:24 AM
Krispy Kreme takes food stamps????????????