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Janice
06-21-2012, 01:38 PM
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Is President Obama A Pathological Liar?

The Obama Record: The most frightening aspect of this president may not be his radical ideology but his rank dishonesty in selling that ideology. Now he's been caught lying about family racism.

In "Dreams from My Father," his 1995 memoir, Obama used the story of his paternal grandfather's imprisonment and torture at the hands of British colonists in Kenya as an example of white cruelty. He claimed Hussein Onyango Obama was unjustly detained for six months before being released a crippled, lice-ridden "old man."

In fact, none of it is true, according to Washington Post editor and biographer David Maraniss, who traveled to Kenya to investigate the tale. His grandfather was not detained or beaten by his "white rulers," as Obama, writing as a 34-year-old lawyer, claimed.

This is only the latest example of a growing body of fabrications, embellishments and outright lies told by this president, who has a real and possibly pathological problem with the truth.

Stacked up, his whoppers would make even Bill Clinton blush. Here's a sampling:


Lie No. 1: Obama has repeatedly claimed his white grandfather, Stanley Dunham, "fought in Patton's army," when he was a clerk with no combat in WWII.

Lie No. 2: Obama claimed Dunham, a communist sympathizer, signed up for duty "the day after Pearl Harbor," when in fact he waited six months.

Lie No. 3: Obama claimed his father "fought when he got back to Kenya against tribalism and nepotism, but ultimately was blackballed from the government," when in fact he fought against capitalism and lost his job when he advocated communism.

Lie No. 4: Obama has claimed his late mother's health insurer refused "to pay for her treatment" for cancer while citing a "pre-existing condition," when Cigna paid all her hospital bills and never denied payment.

Lie No. 5: Obama claimed he and a black high school friend named "Ray" were ostracized in Honolulu, when in fact the friend, Keith Kakugawa, was half-Japanese, and neither of them experienced discrimination.

Lie No. 6: Obama claimed the father of his Indonesian stepfather was killed by Dutch soldiers while fighting for Indonesian independence, when in fact the story turns out to be "a concocted myth in almost all respects," Maraniss found.

Lie No. 7: Obama claimed his parents decided to marry in the excitement of the Selma civil-rights march of 1965 — and that he personally has "a claim on Selma" — when in fact they were married several years earlier.

Lie No. 8: Obama claimed his father got to study in the U.S. thanks to JFK's efforts to bring "young Africans over to America," when in fact the Kenyan airlift his father participated in occurred in 1959 under Ike.

Lie No. 9: Obama submitted a phony bio to his book publicist claiming he was "born in Kenya."

Lie No. 10: Obama denied being a member of the socialist New Party, when a member roster of the Chicago chapter of the party lists him joining on Jan. 11, 1996.

Lie No. 11: Obama claimed he had only a passing acquaintance with Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, when in fact they held a fundraiser for their Hyde Park neighbor in their living room, and years later, while Obama served in the U.S. Senate, hosted a barbecue for him in their backyard.

Lie No. 12: Obama claimed he never heard Rev. Jeremiah Wright spew anti-American invectives while sitting in his pews for 20 years, when in fact Obama was moved to tears hearing Wright condemn "white folks" and the U.S. for bombing other countries and even named his second book after the sermon.

Lie No. 13: Obama claimed he got in a "big fight" with old white flame Genevieve Cook, who after seeing a black play asked "why black people were so angry all the time," when in fact she never saw the play nor made the remark.





In both his autobiographies, Obama paints a false portrait of a still-racist America and West, where he, his friends and relatives are victimized by that racism. Conveniently, his remedy is redistributive justice through bigger government.

IBD (http://news.investors.com/article/615581/201206201901/obama-tells-stories-to-support-radical-agenda.htm)

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"Is President Obama A Pathological Liar?" - Is this a rhetorical question?

Hubie
06-21-2012, 02:53 PM
Is President Obama A Pathological Liar?

Answer: yes.

Next question?

Hubie
06-21-2012, 02:54 PM
Obama claimed he had only a passing acquaintance with Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, when in fact they held a fundraiser for their Hyde Park neighbor in their living room, and years later, while Obama served in the U.S. Senate, hosted a barbecue for him in their backyard.

Wasn't Obama's presidential campaign birthed in Ayers' living room, too?

Chuck58
06-21-2012, 03:35 PM
Wasn't Obama's presidential campaign birthed in Ayers' living room, too?

Either the senate run or presidential bid. I read back in 2008 when trying to find out about him that one or the other was begun there.

Odysseus
06-21-2012, 03:52 PM
If only there were some entity that, prior to 2008, could have done this kind of examination of Obama's biography, and found a means to get it before the American public... Some business, perhaps, that could investigate the claims of politicians and disseminate their results through some sort of print or electronic medium... If only...

The more of this that comes out, the more credibility the MSM loses.

Chuck58
06-21-2012, 04:07 PM
If only there were some entity that, prior to 2008, could have done this kind of examination of Obama's biography, and found a means to get it before the American public... Some business, perhaps, that could investigate the claims of politicians and disseminate their results through some sort of print or electronic medium... If only...

The more of this that comes out, the more credibility the MSM loses.

It's one of the things I mentioned and mentioned, and posted and posted ad nauseum back in 2008. I don't just listen to a candidate. I try to find out all I can about that candidate - his/her past, voting record, everything I can before deciding to cast my ballot.

I swear to God that I've never researched a candidate, either online or in magazines, papers etc prior to the internet, and found so little information. Either every reference to him was somehow removed before he began running for office or he didn't exist.

Now, a bit more is out but then, there was virtually nothing.

Janice
06-21-2012, 04:45 PM
Prior to the last presidential elections I had and posted (elsewhere) a video about 0bama saying he was going to bankrupt the coal industry. I also read about his relationship with Bill Ayers and friends. I read about his atheist mother and communist father and grand parents who raised him. I also posted about his run in with "joe the plumber" inre to "redistributing the wealth". And his interview talking about his muslim faith. I learned other things too that seemed rather fantastic or weird at the time.

I tried to warn my mother about him and how the Presidency, the House and the Senate (all 3) would be controlled by one party (the dems) to no avail, although now I think she understands. I was amazed that so few people had done the research that I had done. And I am nobody. Im certainly not "in the press". I tried to warn everybody around me and at the time I did worry that I probably sounded like a kook ... because where were the news reports? How could I know these things if they are not common knowledge?

In old eastern europe they had a "radio free europe" so that those behind the iron curtain could hear the truth. Today there appears to be an iron curtain, a "black out" in the MSM to "block" the truth. Plus the left controls indoctrination centers (govt schools and universities). And pop culture makes cult of personality main stream. I guess Im still a little amazed at it all looking back.

Odysseus
06-21-2012, 09:57 PM
It's one of the things I mentioned and mentioned, and posted and posted ad nauseum back in 2008. I don't just listen to a candidate. I try to find out all I can about that candidate - his/her past, voting record, everything I can before deciding to cast my ballot.

I swear to God that I've never researched a candidate, either online or in magazines, papers etc prior to the internet, and found so little information. Either every reference to him was somehow removed before he began running for office or he didn't exist.

Now, a bit more is out but then, there was virtually nothing.

That you did.

The media and academia just projected their own opinions on Obama, and assumed that because he was one of them, that he was therefore perfectly capable of doing anything and everything, and anyone who questioned this was dismissed or ridiculed. Remember when Michael Beschloss claimed that "Obama is the smartest man with the highest IQ ever to be elected to the presidency," on the Don Imus show? Imus asked the obvious question, which was, “So what is his IQ?” Beschloss had no idea, but was just assuming it. But, the funny thing is that if he'd bothered trying to find out what it was, he'd have had a very tough time of it. His transcripts from high school and college, his SAT, ACT or other test scores and any other objective measure of his intelligence has been far more carefully hidden than the details of our counterterrorism programs. The guy's a cipher, even now, and the more that we find out about him, the more we realize we don't know.

Hubie
06-21-2012, 11:22 PM
But, the funny thing is that if he'd bothered trying to find out what it was, he'd have had a very tough time of it. His transcripts from high school and college, his SAT, ACT or other test scores and any other objective measure of his intelligence has been far more carefully hidden than the details of our counterterrorism programs.

I've been wondering a lot lately (particularly after that biography issue in that one book from the '90s) if that isn't more about him getting an easy ride through college by lying about being a Muslim from Kenya than what his actual performance was. Unless he flunked or nearly flunked, why hide his academic performance?

Chuck58
06-22-2012, 12:19 AM
I've been wondering a lot lately (particularly after that biography issue in that one book from the '90s) if that isn't more about him getting an easy ride through college by lying about being a Muslim from Kenya than what his actual performance was. Unless he flunked or nearly flunked, why hide his academic performance?

obama isn't unintelligent. What he appears to me is......Lazy.

I think we aren't seeing his grades because they were barely passing, due to laziness. It's pretty obvious that some of his comments reflect the fact that he doesn't know his subject. Wasn't it a state of the union speech that he said something about the constitution guaranteeing 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Maybe that's changed recently, but my copy of the declaration of Independence is the document in which those words are written. My copy is pretty old, several decades, so they might have re-written it :concern:

I think he was just a lazy student who played on his race and he coasted through school doing just enough to get by, and his grades reflect that attitude - which doesn't appear to have changed.

Odysseus
06-22-2012, 12:51 AM
I've been wondering a lot lately (particularly after that biography issue in that one book from the '90s) if that isn't more about him getting an easy ride through college by lying about being a Muslim from Kenya than what his actual performance was. Unless he flunked or nearly flunked, why hide his academic performance?


obama isn't unintelligent. What he appears to me is......Lazy.

I think we aren't seeing his grades because they were barely passing, due to laziness. It's pretty obvious that some of his comments reflect the fact that he doesn't know his subject. Wasn't it a state of the union speech that he said something about the constitution guaranteeing 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Maybe that's changed recently, but my copy of the declaration of Independence is the document in which those words are written. My copy is pretty old, several decades, so they might have re-written it :concern:

I think he was just a lazy student who played on his race and he coasted through school doing just enough to get by, and his grades reflect that attitude - which doesn't appear to have changed.

I think that it's a combination of both, plus a heavy dose of narcissism. The Wikipedia summary of narcissism causes is interesting:


The cause of this disorder is unknown, according to Groopman and Cooper. However, they list the following factors identified by various researchers as possibilities:[2]


An oversensitive temperament at birth
Excessive admiration that is never balanced with realistic feedback
Excessive praise for good behaviors or excessive criticism for bad behaviors in childhood
Overindulgence and overvaluation by parents
Being praised for perceived exceptional looks or abilities by adults
Severe emotional abuse in childhood
Unpredictable or unreliable caregiving from parents
Valued by parents as a means to regulate their own self-esteem


Some narcissistic traits are common and a normal developmental phase. When these traits are compounded by a failure of the interpersonal environment and continue into adulthood, they may intensify to the point where NPD is diagnosed.[8] Some psychotherapists believe that the etiology of the disorder is, in Freudian terms, the result of fixation to early childhood development.

Now, think about Obama's childhood. His father abandoned the family when he was an infant. His mother was a leftist intellectual who eventually abandoned him with his grandparents. I think that this covers the unreliable caregiving part. Obama was also treated as something special because of his racial background. His grandfather turned him over to a Marxist agitator in order to foster his identity as an aggrieved member of a minority, which tells us that he spent most of his life surrounded by people who saw him as a demographic, rather than as an individual, and he's been able to get away with a tremendous amount because of that. Again, not the references to excessive praise and a lack of realistic feedback, not to mention the use of a child as a surrogate for parental self-esteem. But, where this really becomes an issue is when you look at the signs of Narcissistic Personality Disorder:



Symptoms of this disorder include, but are not limited to:


Reacts to criticism with anger, shame, or humiliation
May take advantage of others to reach their own goals
Tends to exaggerate their own importance, achievements, and talents
Imagines unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty, power, intelligence, or romance
Requires constant attention and positive reinforcement from others
Easily becomes jealous
Lacks empathy and disregards the feelings of others
Obsessed with oneself
Mainly pursues selfish goals
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Is easily hurt and rejected
Sets unrealistic goals
Wants "the best" of everything
Appears as tough-minded or unemotional




Those symptoms are Obama to a "T". The resume enhancements are just part of a larger pattern of exaggeration and fantasy, but we also see it when he takes credit for the actions of others, such as the SEAL Team raid on Bin Laden's compound. The other symptoms are just as obvious. Look at the list of people that Obama has thrown under the bus in his rise. Look at the thin-skinned response to criticism. The habitual overspending on vacations and meals is typical of wanting the "best" of everything. Obama is a textbook case of narcissism, and the implications for America are frightening.