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Janice
06-23-2012, 10:44 AM
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The Muslim Rumor That Just Won't Die
Matt Taylor

Ever since he began running for president in 2007, Barack Obama has been dogged by rumors that he's secretly a Muslim. Whether it's his exotic name and background, the color of his skin, or (most likely) some combination of the two, the Muslim lie just doesn't seem to go away.

Each time it has begun to fade from public discussion, the Muslim rumor has cropped up again, like it did last year when real estate tycoon Donald Trump, who was publicly weighing a presidential bid at the time, insisted he had evidence showing Obama wasn't born in the United States (and that his birth certificate might show that he's Muslim). >>>

Just 34% of Americans correctly say U.S. President Barack Obama is a Christian, while 44% say they don't know Obama's religion and 11% say he is a Muslim.

Slate (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/06/22/the_muslim_rumor_that_just_won_t_die.html)

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I see that Matt conveniently left out when when George Stephanopoulos stopped being an interviewer and assumed the role of media coach when he corrected the 0bamboozler ... "My deep Muslim, er Christian, faith."

Or how about his 2008 statement to a New York Times reporter that the Muslim "Call to Prayer" is the "loveliest sound on Earth at sunset" and his ability to then chant that "Call" in a perfect Arabic accent. Or his listing as a "Muslim" on Indonesian school records (the only school records anyone has seen) and of course, the statement on those same records that he is "Indonesian". All the while being educated in a Madrassah and rooming with Pakistanis.

Then there is the attack on religion and the Catholic Church. His extraordinary statements and outreach actions favoring Muslims, unwillingness to deal forcefully with domestic terrorism by Muslims, and by his disdainful and harsh treatment of Israel.

Maybe it's because he used to tell everybody he was Muslim, just like he used to tell everybody he was born in Kenya Matt ...

Odysseus
06-23-2012, 12:01 PM
It's highly unlikely that Obama is a Muslim. First, even though he was immersed in the Indonesian culture, his mother was a radical leftist, and an atheist. Lolo Soetero, his stepfather, was a highly westernized Indonesian, who was not particularly devout. The lived in privileged enclaves in Indonesia and it's unlikely that he believed in any religion. His mother's anthropology degree and her radicalism would have ensured that any religious instruction was countered by heavy indoctrination in disbelief.

Obama's Christianity came from the convenience of needing to belong to a politically connected church that could advance his career in Chicago. His knowledge of scripture is extremely poor, and he constantly misquotes or misinterprets the Bible in order to advance his political agenda, just as he does the Constitution and other founding documents. He's a chameleon who takes on just as much of a given doctrine as he needs to in order to blend in with his surroundings and exploit them, but he never feels like he's part of anything or truly belongs anywhere. This is why he is so aloof and distant.

You know, it's funny, but before I wrote this, I never felt sorry for him, but I really do pity him. Imagine a life spent without connections, without real love or trust, spent solely trying to prove something to a dead mother and a movement that rewards loyalty with betrayal and empty promises. His life was spent in a perpetual quest for approbation, and losing the approval of the entire nation is going to be something that will not recover from. We are already beginning to see erratic and desperate behavior from him, and as he loses support, that will increase and cause him to lose more support. That vicious cycle is going to be painful to watch, and dangerous, because he will do literally anything to stay in the White House. The sooner we get him out of it, the better.

Wibbins
06-23-2012, 12:52 PM
It's highly unlikely that Obama is a Muslim. First, even though he was immersed in the Indonesian culture, his mother was a radical leftist, and an atheist. Lolo Soetero, his stepfather, was a highly westernized Indonesian, who was not particularly devout. The lived in privileged enclaves in Indonesia and it's unlikely that he believed in any religion. His mother's anthropology degree and her radicalism would have ensured that any religious instruction was countered by heavy indoctrination in disbelief.

Obama's Christianity came from the convenience of needing to belong to a politically connected church that could advance his career in Chicago. His knowledge of scripture is extremely poor, and he constantly misquotes or misinterprets the Bible in order to advance his political agenda, just as he does the Constitution and other founding documents. He's a chameleon who takes on just as much of a given doctrine as he needs to in order to blend in with his surroundings and exploit them, but he never feels like he's part of anything or truly belongs anywhere. This is why he is so aloof and distant.

You know, it's funny, but before I wrote this, I never felt sorry for him, but I really do pity him. Imagine a life spent without connections, without real love or trust, spent solely trying to prove something to a dead mother and a movement that rewards loyalty with betrayal and empty promises. His life was spent in a perpetual quest for approbation, and losing the approval of the entire nation is going to be something that will not recover from. We are already beginning to see erratic and desperate behavior from him, and as he loses support, that will increase and cause him to lose more support. That vicious cycle is going to be painful to watch, and dangerous, because he will do literally anything to stay in the White House. The sooner we get him out of it, the better.

A cornered animal is a dangerous animal

Janice
06-23-2012, 12:59 PM
I agree, Barry 0'Pharoah probably isnt invested in any "higher power". After all, what use would that be to an affirmative action megalomaniac narcissist raised by an atheist and communists?

I cannot allow myself to have much empathy for this statist as long as his boot is on the neck of a free market and a constitutional representative republic... the greatest form of self governance ever devised by man.

And this guy with his extreme godless, racist wife, a supportive hi-jacked democrat party and a sycophant media together are taking this nation down in every way conceivable... and some ways previously inconceivable. And is sometimes assisted by a so-called opposing party. He is a destroyer. And proud of it. Figuratively speaking he has a gun to our heads... and one by one he is pulling the trigger. In some cases, one group by one group he is pulling the trigger. No shame, no conscious ... all the while smirking and joking and seeking approval because.. of course... everyone agrees with this behavior (in his sick mind). And the longer this goes on ... the more his malicious arrogance multiplies.

I agree I feel sorry that he is so sick. But just because goons and thugs and tyrants and statists are sick I cannot feel more compelled to feel sorry for them than my desire to see them out of power and possibly in jail.. or worse. THATS when I shall start to feel sorry for them. When they can no longer impose their iron fisted will or boot on the neck of the rest of us.

What do you suppose he has empathy for?

txradioguy
06-23-2012, 01:23 PM
While I personally don't believe he's muslim...quite frankly he's probably Atheist...the Afghans I knew and worked with downrange last year are all convinced that America elected a Muslim to the Presidency in 2008.

Generation Why?
06-23-2012, 01:32 PM
While I personally don't believe he's muslim...quite frankly he's probably Atheist...the Afghans I knew and worked with downrange last year are all convinced that America elected a Muslim to the Presidency in 2008.

Not sure what he is, but I believe he at least thinks he is a Christian

Janice
06-23-2012, 01:41 PM
You know... its a bit like his birth (we have seen a forged or manipulated birth certificate) parents names. His college records including the name(s) he used, his sponsors, whatever nationality he used and related circumstances to gain favorable status and entry. And his citizenry or dual citizenship or whatever it was at one time or another. We can all guess... about his religion and these other things but we really dont know. Although there are lots of "bread crumbs".

As Ody points out this makes for a perfect "chameleon".

We know more about Mickey Mouse than this clown.

The more I think about it... the more I hope the muslim story sticks... if it helps to get this godless asswipe out of the White House. I dont care how we do it anymore. Too much is at stake.

Janice
06-23-2012, 01:43 PM
Not sure what he is, but I believe he at least thinks he is a Christian

If by that you believe that Black Liberation Theology is "christian" then I guess your right.

Generation Why?
06-23-2012, 03:18 PM
If by that you believe that Black Liberation Theology is "christian" then I guess your right.

I believe that Christian is Christian

Rockntractor
06-23-2012, 03:57 PM
I believe that Christian is Christian

black liberation theology is a form of communism, do some homework.

Generation Why?
06-23-2012, 04:25 PM
black liberation theology is a form of communism, do some homework.

I know what Black Liberation theology is. Maybe you should re-read what I said. I believe that HE thinks he is a Christian

DumbAss Tanker
06-23-2012, 06:03 PM
...The sooner we get him out of it, the better.


Yes...it would be for his own good. And for the chillllldren, of course.

:biggrin-new:

Odysseus
06-23-2012, 06:12 PM
Not sure what he is, but I believe he at least thinks he is a Christian

I can't imagine a believing Christian talking about how people bitterly cling to religion. That's something that someone who lacks any understanding of the comfort of faith would say.

JB
06-23-2012, 07:38 PM
Because of his father, every Muslim in the world thinks he's a Muslim.

I think he's a Muslim because he's a lying ass. And just because I can. If I'm a racist because I disagree with his policies, he's a Muslim because I said so. ;)

Apache
06-23-2012, 07:40 PM
I can't imagine a believing Christian talking about how people bitterly cling to religion. That's something that someone who lacks any understanding of the comfort of faith would say.

That and his shameless misquotes of the Bible to try and get his way ...

DumbAss Tanker
06-24-2012, 11:48 AM
That and his shameless misquotes of the Bible to try and get his way ...

Hey, his Bible quotes are every bit as accurate as his Constitutional points...

:biggrin-new:

Odysseus
06-24-2012, 12:31 PM
Hey, his Bible quotes are every bit as accurate as his Constitutional points...

:biggrin-new:

And much more accurate than his economics. :evil-grin:

Rockntractor
06-24-2012, 12:34 PM
And much more accurate than his economics. :evil-grin:

His attacks against the economy have been precise and very effective!

Chuck58
06-24-2012, 02:32 PM
His attacks against the economy have been precise and very effective!

They have indeed. Given 4 more yrs with no worry about re-election, we won't have an economy or much of a country.

ThinkingBig
06-24-2012, 04:33 PM
Good Golly Miss Molly, people, if this is still the only criticism/attacks from the far-right, the GOP is doomed.

Odysseus
06-24-2012, 05:04 PM
Good Golly Miss Molly, people, if this is still the only criticism/attacks from the far-right, the GOP is doomed.

That's quite a big "if", there, Spicoli. Fortunately, it's not the only criticism. First, the Muslim rumor isn't the only criticism of Obama from the right. There's his economic policy, crony-socialism (Solyndra, for example), his abandonment of two wars for political expediency, his leaking of classified data in order to bolster his image, his invoking of executive privilege in order to prevent legitimate oversight of the executive branch, his monumentally ill-conceived health care reform and his abuse of his authority and bypassing of the congress and the courts in order to rule by decree. These are all legitimate areas of criticism.

Second, it's not the far right, or even the right, that's presuming that Obama is a Muslim. The Slate article was in response to a PPP poll. PPP is a Democratic polling outfit, and they've cooked previous polls to give results that they wanted to push.

Third, Quite a few independents and Democrats also think that he's a Muslim. The reasons for this have little to do with his race (although his middle name probably doesn't help), but has a great deal to do with his policies (this is the man who redefined NASA's core mission as Muslim outreach, after all).

ABC in Georgia
06-24-2012, 07:02 PM
Because of his father, every Muslim in the world thinks he's a Muslim.

I think he's a Muslim because he's a lying ass.

I agree, JB ... I too, really believe that he IS a Muslim.

A Muslim who practices Taqiyya. One who has raised it to an art in fact..

Want to bet he is just thrilled to bits about the results of the Egyptian election? Did he not make a speech on how wonderful he thought "The Arab Spring" was going to be?

Wonder if he has called and congratulated Morsi yet?

I can not stand our president, I don't care where he was born. I just want him out of here come January 2013!!!

~ ABC

JB
06-24-2012, 07:29 PM
Good Golly Miss Molly, people, if this is still the only criticism/attacks from the far-right, the GOP is doomed.Did you even read the OP. Here's a quote from it:
Just 34% of Americans correctly say U.S. President Barack Obama is a Christian, while 44% say they don't know Obama's religion and 11% say he is a Muslim. What makes you think that is a far-right issue?

Furthermore, if you think "this is still the only criticism" of Obama, you really do not know much about politics and you certainly have not been paying attention to anything for the last three years.

Maybe you need to just go back to weed and jerking off. You don't possess the faculties to hold discussions here.

noonwitch
06-25-2012, 11:06 AM
While I personally don't believe he's muslim...quite frankly he's probably Atheist...the Afghans I knew and worked with downrange last year are all convinced that America elected a Muslim to the Presidency in 2008.


He was exposed to Islam as a child, and received some of his education at a Muslim school in Indonesia as a child. That makes him closer to being a Muslim than any previous President.

I can see where people in that part of the world might interpret that as being Muslim.

Gina
06-25-2012, 04:12 PM
He was exposed to Islam as a child, and received some of his education at a Muslim school in Indonesia as a child. That makes him closer to being a Muslim than any previous President.

I can see where people in that part of the world might interpret that as being Muslim.

My concern was that some wacko muslim would consider him an apostate and do something, well, wacko.

Arroyo_Doble
06-25-2012, 05:00 PM
Maybe you need to just go back to weed and jerking off. You don't possess the faculties to hold discussions here.

Show him where he can get some derp pictures so he can participate in the intellectual discussions more effectively.

Rockntractor
06-25-2012, 05:14 PM
Show him where he can get some derp pictures so he can participate in the intellectual discussions more effectively.

No one here really cares what your opinions are, why don't you go back to your emo forum.

Odysseus
06-25-2012, 06:04 PM
Show him where he can get some derp pictures so he can participate in the intellectual discussions more effectively.

You generally get what you give here. When you provide reasoned, thoughtful discussion, you get the same back. When you provide snarky troll droppings, you get derp pics.

Janice
06-27-2012, 11:07 AM
A socialist , an illegal immigrant and a Muslim walk into a bar.

The bartender asks, "What'll you have Mr. President?"

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