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SarasotaRepub
07-05-2012, 08:15 AM
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Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:43 PM
RegieRocker



It is No Mystery: The Real Reason Conservatives Keep Winning

Last edited Wed Jul 4, 2012, 11:43 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) (http://www.conservativeunderground.com/?com=thread&address=1002903094&info=1#edits)
Progressives won't win until we get a lot better at building binding communities of trust and shared identity. Have you ever wondered why it is that Progressives repeatedly lose ground in American politics? We almost always have the facts on our side. The experts agree with us. Hell, a lot of us are the experts. And yet history clearly shows that Conservatives have the best political game in town. They dominate political discourse, establishing which frames shape the most important issues of the day. Their values associated with rugged individualism, mass consumption, and a contempt for civil society are blasted at the American public through massive media outlets that they have acquired and built up over the last several decades. And when the global economy melts down as a direct result of their economic and fiscal policies, who gets blamed? In a word, liberals.

What’s going on here? Why is it that Conservatives are so good at winning and Progressives produce a lackluster resistance at best? The answer comes from a fundamental insight from evolutionary biology. Stated simply, it goes like this:

When two groups compete, the one with the most social cohesion wins in the long run.

This insight arises from research on group selection that reveals how social animals capable of working as a team readily out compete those individuals who must struggle on their own. The astute observer will already note the profound irony here — a political group whose ideology elevates the individual over the group (Conservatives) has managed to cultivate more group cohesion than the political group whose ideology blends community well-being with that of the individual. I’ll come back to this irony in a moment.

Progressives are easily kept on the defensive through the age-old strategy of Divide and Conquer

A fantastic overview of group selection can be found in E.O. Wilson’s groundbreaking new book,The Social Conquest of Earth, which builds a powerful argument for how humanity’s social nature enabled us to dominate every ecosystem we have entered in our 2 million year history.*

The argument goes something like this:

1. Throughout history, a tiny number of species have developed a capability known as eusociality — advanced social organization comprised of large numbers of individuals with differentiated roles including members that span more than one generation.

2. Most eusocial species discovered in the fossil record are the social insects — ants, bees, termites, and wasps. Every one of these species has been so successful at thriving that their bodies contained more than half of the biomass in the ecosystems where they lived, meaning that they completely dominated the niches populated by them. This pattern continues up to the present.

3. Humans are the only eusocial species to have the additional properties of strong emotional bonds between group members and advanced cognitive abilities that enable us to form coherent gestalts of meaning — especially the capacity for shared cultural narratives and tribal identities — which have enabled us to out-compete and dominate less socially adept animals in every ecosystem we have entered.
4. The key strategy underlying this pattern is that well-organized groups, which elevate the needs of the whole over those of individuals, are more successful at acquiring resources and consolidating power than those individuals or groups that are less organized.

Sound familiar? In American politics, we see the top-down authoritarian worldview of Conservatives enabling them to fall in line and take marching orders. They form strong loyalty bonds through religious affiliation, old money networks, and various social clubs that give them an immense capacity for social cohesion.

And what about Progressives? We are divided into issue silos, unable to form lasting coalitions that bond us together under the same ideological flag, and easily kept on the defensive through the age-old strategy of Divide and Conquer. We have difficulty trusting each other and our funders are unable or unwilling to invest in talent for talent’s sake — they always need to monitor the outcomes of their giving and almost never fund the operational needs of our advocacy organizations.
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The truth hurts






What "hurts" Regie is "Teh Stupid" and you guys have plenty of that!!!

m00
07-05-2012, 10:39 AM
Wait, conservatives are winning?

Gina
07-05-2012, 10:51 AM
Yep, I can always count on the DUmp for my morning giggle...
I usually laugh at the title of the thread before I even open it! :biggrin-new:


a political group whose ideology elevates the individual over the group (Conservatives) has managed to cultivate more group cohesion than the political group whose ideology blends community well-being with that of the individual.
Face it DUmmie. Most people are most concerned first about themselves, the group second. You can believe all day long that conservatives don't want to help people because we're against high taxes. What you don't understand is we'd rather help people directly through our churches or other charitable groups than trust a non-trustworthy and bloated government to do it for us. That way we can choose who we want to help, and like it or not, that is our right. We don't have to help people you want helped (abortion clinics, NPR) just like you don't want to help our causes.


And what about Progressives? We are divided into issue silos, unable to form lasting coalitions that bond us together under the same ideological flag, and easily kept on the defensive through the age-old strategy of Divide and Conquer. We have difficulty trusting each other and our funders are unable or unwilling to invest in talent for talent’s sake — they always need to monitor the outcomes of their giving and almost never fund the operational needs of our advocacy organizations.

See above. Conservatives can be on the same page (unlike liberals) because we don't want to be lumped together and give our money to the govt. We are individuals (the thing you seem to have a problem with) and donate our time and money to the cause most important to us. The govt wants to do it for us and we don't like it.

txradioguy
07-05-2012, 03:06 PM
Wait, conservatives are winning?

To Libtards anything short of a complete Communist Utopia = Conservatives winning.

DumbAss Tanker
07-05-2012, 03:06 PM
a political group whose ideology elevates the individual over the group (Conservatives) has managed to cultivate more group cohesion than the political group whose ideology blends community well-being with that of the individual.

"Crap."

DUmmie, your self-delusion is the core of your problem, since you can't even get your starting assumption correct.

The reason you Pigressives have poor cohesion is that your actual ideology is pure selfishness, not community or shared values. The only value you scum share is that of 'self above all.'

Dan D. Doty
07-05-2012, 03:37 PM
"Crap."

DUmmie, your self-delusion is the core of your problem, since you can't even get your starting assumption correct.

The reason you Pigressives have poor cohesion is that your actual ideology is pure selfishness, not community or shared values. The only value you scum share is that of 'self above all.'

Tanker, you're right.

Every time one these jerkazoids " explains things " they never do. All they are doing is telling everyone the dialog from the drama playing in their head.

Zeus
07-05-2012, 04:17 PM
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JB
07-05-2012, 08:05 PM
It is No Mystery: The Real Reason Conservatives Keep Winning The VRWC owns Diebold.

You DUmmies have known this for years. Stop over thinking it. We steal any election we want. That's how it works. Deal with it.

m00
07-06-2012, 12:17 AM
To Libtards anything short of a complete Communist Utopia = Conservatives winning.

It's pretty clear what's losing... personal freedoms, economic freedoms, religious freedoms, national sovereignty, the middle class, standards of living... in short, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

The media just has everyone convinced that the other side is winning (regardless of what side you're on), and the way for your side to win is to reduce these things.

Adam Wood
07-06-2012, 12:43 AM
We almost always have the facts on our side.No, you don't. You never have the facts on your side. Your side is invariably an idiotic emotion-based argument that has jack shit to do with actual facts.


Summary of the Left's "argument:"

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