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ralph wiggum
09-19-2008, 01:54 PM
Americans grab three of four points in Ryder Cup foursomes (http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/rydercup08/news/story?id=3597448)


LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- The Americans find themselves in an unusual position: leading the Ryder Cup.

Justin Leonard and Hunter Mahan claimed the first point for the U.S., Phil Mickelson and Anthony Kim rallied to halve their match, and a European three-putt at No. 18 handed another win to Stewart Cink and Chad Campbell on a red, white and blue Friday at Valhalla Golf Club.

For the first time since 1991, the Americans were ahead of the Europeans after the opening session. The U.S. grabbed a 3-1 lead in foursomes -- and the early edge heading into afternoon four-ball.

The Europeans gained a boost at the end of alternate-shot matches when their most imposing team, Sergio Garcia and Lee Westwood, rallied to win the final two holes and halve its match with local favorite Kenny Perry and steady American Jim Furyk.

Perry was poised to send the Kentucky crowd into a frenzy when he stood over an 8-foot putt at No. 17 to win the match. But the ball slid by the hole, and Perry followed by knocking his tee shot at 18 into the water right of the fairway.

That allowed Garcia and Westwood to escape with a half point. Padraig Harrington, winner of the last two majors, and Robert Karlsson gave the Euros their other half-point, but that felt more like a loss after they took a commanding lead on Mickelson and Kim slip away.

Indeed, it was an impressive performance by the Americans, who haven't won since "The Miracle at Brookline" in 1999. Since then, the Europeans have won three in a row -- the last two in routs.

The visitors looked to be off and running, surging to early leads in all four matches. Henrik Stenson and Paul Casey won the first two holes against Leonard and Mahan, one of six rookies on the U.S. team. Ian Poulter and Justin Rose were 3-up on Cink and Campbell after seven holes. Harrington and Karlsson looked to be in good shape when they started the back side by winning three straight holes for a 3-up lead with six to play.

But the Americans stormed back, no one more than Mahan. After a shaky start, he teamed with Leonard to put the Americans 2-up by the turn. They didn't even need to play the final two holes.

Leonard rolled in a short par putt at the 16th to clinch the match -- his first victory in Ryder Cup play, though he's still remembered as the hero of Brookline for a 45-foot putt that halved his singles match, giving the Americans their most recent win.

"We had holes left," Mahan said. "We knew we could play better than that. We just had to keep going. Win one hole, then win two, then win three."

Leonard, whose Ryder record was 0-3-5, finally put a whole point on his record.

"It feels great," Leonard said. "I told Hunter, 'I lost those first two holes for us on purpose to take the pressure off.' We had a lot of fun out there and I'm looking forward to this afternoon."



USA USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!!!

(Sorry Bijou & Hamps) :D

Shannon
09-19-2008, 03:42 PM
What? Is this about a real sport?:p

JB
09-22-2008, 05:58 PM
Kick and woot for the Americans winning.

Rebel Yell
09-23-2008, 12:59 PM
I have a new favorite golfer. Boo Weekly, a real life Happy Gilmore.

lacarnut
09-23-2008, 01:21 PM
I never heard of most of the American golfers. However, the no names are the ones that played the best. Maybe they should leave Tiger and Phil off the next Ryder Cup matches. Paul Azinger (sp) did a great job of putting the team together and his philosophy on winning surely paid off. A great win for them.

linda22003
09-23-2008, 01:24 PM
What? Is this about a real sport?:p

No, it's about golf.

lacarnut
09-23-2008, 01:46 PM
No, it's about golf.

A dunce like you would say so. However, there are very few sports that you can play from 5 to a 100.

linda22003
09-23-2008, 01:46 PM
Or would care to, for that matter. :rolleyes:

ralph wiggum
09-23-2008, 01:49 PM
I never heard of most of the American golfers. However, the no names are the ones that played the best. Maybe they should leave Tiger and Phil off the next Ryder Cup matches. Paul Azinger (sp) did a great job of putting the team together and his philosophy on winning surely paid off. A great win for them.

I'd be all for leaving Tiger & Phil off next time.

The U.S. did a great job, and I still haven't been able to watch it all. I've heard Faldo (the European captain) has been raked over the coals in Europe.

lacarnut
09-23-2008, 01:53 PM
Or would care to, for that matter. :rolleyes:

I would and so did people like Bob Hope. The thread is about the Americans winning the Ryder Cup matches. If you do not have nothing to add to the topic, sit on your fat ass and do your vagina or what ever you call them exercises.

linda22003
09-23-2008, 02:04 PM
I was just answering Shannon's question. My parents loved golf; my mother used to play with an old guy who, I was told, was one of the most famous players ever. You couldn't prove it by me, but he was a nice old man. :)

lacarnut
09-23-2008, 02:21 PM
I was just answering Shannon's question. My parents loved golf; my mother used to play with an old guy who, I was told, was one of the most famous players ever. You couldn't prove it by me, but he was a nice old man. :)

You should have learned how to play; then maybe you would not be so much of a snob. :)

linda22003
09-23-2008, 02:27 PM
Given what country club fees are, I'd likely be more of one. One I like in the area, the Chevy Chase Club, costs over $100k to join, aside from the annual dues and other feeds.

ralph wiggum
09-23-2008, 02:48 PM
Given what country club fees are, I'd likely be more of one. One I like in the area, the Chevy Chase Club, costs over $100k to join, aside from the annual dues and other feeds.

Feeds? :confused:



:D :D

lacarnut
09-23-2008, 02:50 PM
Given what country club fees are, I'd likely be more of one. One I like in the area, the Chevy Chase Club, costs over $100k to join, aside from the annual dues and other feeds.

That $100k is a share of stock which in all likely-hood you can sell for more than you bought it for. The kicker is that you have to have a sponsor and numerous references. They don't let just anybody in that can pony up the money. FYI, most of the richest people in Country Clubs are NOT snobs. It's the management types that are allowed to join under the company membership umbrella that are trying to impress others. They only have to pony up the dues and charges every month. I have seen a number of these snobbish pricks.

linda22003
09-23-2008, 02:57 PM
As you say; I wouldn't know. My parents belonged to a club, but I've never been interested.

Space Gravy
09-23-2008, 04:11 PM
I was just answering Shannon's question. My parents loved golf; my mother used to play with an old guy who, I was told, was one of the most famous players ever. You couldn't prove it by me, but he was a nice old man. :)

Who?????????

Shannon
09-23-2008, 09:51 PM
I would and so did people like Bob Hope. The thread is about the Americans winning the Ryder Cup matches. If you do not have nothing to add to the topic, sit on your fat ass and do your vagina or what ever you call them exercises.

Holy moley. We were joking around. Lighten up.

lacarnut
09-23-2008, 10:23 PM
Holy moley. We were joking around. Lighten up.

Hey, I am just joking around also. However, I know what I am talking about.:)

linda22003
09-24-2008, 08:19 AM
Who?????????

His name was Gene Sarazen. His daughter lived in my mother's town in New Hampshire and she'd get a group of friends together to play golf with him when he was there. My mother was about twenty years his junior so she liked being one of the "young ones" in comparison.

Space Gravy
09-24-2008, 10:42 AM
His name was Gene Sarazen. His daughter lived in my mother's town in New Hampshire and she'd get a group of friends together to play golf with him when he was there. My mother was about twenty years his junior so she liked being one of the "young ones" in comparison.

Wow! He's one of the absolute legends of the game. I envy your Mother for getting to play a round of golf with him!

Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Sarazen)

linda22003
09-24-2008, 10:55 AM
That's what I was told. She played many rounds with him over the years; she knew his daughter very well. His daughter was what the New Hampshire people called "snowbirds"; she'd be in Sunapee during the summer but would go to Florida for the cold months.

ralph wiggum
09-24-2008, 11:29 AM
His name was Gene Sarazen. His daughter lived in my mother's town in New Hampshire and she'd get a group of friends together to play golf with him when he was there. My mother was about twenty years his junior so she liked being one of the "young ones" in comparison.

Wow, very cool.

Space Gravy
09-24-2008, 11:52 AM
Wow, very cool.

Indeed, that's the equivalent of playing catch with Mickey Mantle.

linda22003
09-24-2008, 11:56 AM
Is it? That's nice to hear. My parents raised me to take people as they come, and not to react to celebrity. My mother had a good time, and liked him, but she was never "OMG I'm playing golf with God!" I went to school with the children of many famous people, so it was good to pick up that matter-of-fact attitude from my parents.

ralph wiggum
09-24-2008, 12:03 PM
Is it? That's nice to hear. My parents raised me to take people as they come, and not to react to celebrity. My mother had a good time, and liked him, but she was never "OMG I'm playing golf with God!" I went to school with the children of many famous people, so it was good to pick up that matter-of-fact attitude from my parents.


Gene Sarazen (born Eugenio Saraceni) (February 27, 1902 May 13, 1999) is one of only five golfers (along with Ben Hogan, Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player, and Tiger Woods) to win all the major championships in his career, the Career Grand Slam: U.S. Open in 1922, 1932, PGA Championship in 1922, 1923, 1933, British Open in 1932, and The Masters in 1935.

Yes, he was an absolute legend.