Carol
09-20-2008, 09:20 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7126967
demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:28 AM
Original message
Very disturbing, but unfortunately not shocking, poll
Advertisements [?]This just fucking kills me. If even possible, I apologize on behalf of the idiots among my fellow white folks. I'm sorry to hear that they are not all repugs.
http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race
Poll: Racial views steer some white Dems away from Obama
WASHINGTON (AP) — Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent," responsible for their own troubles.
The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about two and one-half percentage points.
...Lots of Republicans harbor prejudices, too, but the survey found they weren't voting against Obama because of his race. Most Republicans wouldn't vote for any Democrat for president — white, black or brown...
....Among white Democrats, Clinton supporters were nearly twice as likely as Obama backers to say at least one negative adjective described blacks well, a finding that suggests many of her supporters in the primaries — particularly whites with high school education or less — were motivated in part by racial attitudes. ....
Racist Democrats....who would have thought???
Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:47 AM
Response to Original message
5. Obama doesn't poll well with racists
That's certainly a demographic that he has some work to do in order to make some inroads.
PaulHo (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 08:00 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. I speak heresy, but if a racist is going to vote in this election...
... I'd prefer that he/she vote for Obama than McCain.
It's going to be that close... I do believe.
Problem is... how to persuade him that voting for Obama is actually voting in his/her best interests.
Why do I keep thinking about "Blazing Saddles" when I think about this campaign?
Joe Steel (34 posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:55 AM
Response to Original message
7. No surprise
America is a fundamentally racist country. We exist because we were willing to kill native Americans to steal their land and enslave black Africans to work it.
Racism is The American Way.
RC (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. You are correct. And most people don't see it.
Rah, rah, rah... One million Iraqis civilians dead is a good thing because it is saving us from the terrorist. Yea war. That is the stance of the United States and we go along with it.
Most of us don't see the Iraqis as real people with the same feelings, wants, needs, love of family and friends and country, etc. as us. Now visualize moving the Iraqi war to England or Europe and just try to kill that many innocents. Ain'ta gonna happen. We can relate here because us whites running and otherwise controlling this country came from there. Yes indeedy, we most truly are a racist country. Speak for yourselves libs. Conservatives see what Iraqi's want---freedom just like we all do. Freedom they were not getting from Saddam. Liberals think they are too ignorant and backward to want (or be able to manage) freedom and possible democracy.:rolleyes:
Pattib (240 posts) Sat Sep-20-08 09:00 AM
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20. Disturbing yes, but take my North Florida county for example....
There are almost 10,000 registered Democrats and 7,000 registered Republicans. Wouldn't one expect that once in a while the vote would be close here? Not even. Every election the Republicans carry the vote and it is by a wide margin. Usually 80% in favor of a Republican candidate, sometimes more. There are a lot of registered Democrats in the South who still claim they are Democrats, yet they never vote for a Democrat. So I take some solace in that fact. Yes, of course it's those Democrats who are really Republicans who are racist.:rolleyes:
demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:28 AM
Original message
Very disturbing, but unfortunately not shocking, poll
Advertisements [?]This just fucking kills me. If even possible, I apologize on behalf of the idiots among my fellow white folks. I'm sorry to hear that they are not all repugs.
http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race
Poll: Racial views steer some white Dems away from Obama
WASHINGTON (AP) — Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent," responsible for their own troubles.
The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about two and one-half percentage points.
...Lots of Republicans harbor prejudices, too, but the survey found they weren't voting against Obama because of his race. Most Republicans wouldn't vote for any Democrat for president — white, black or brown...
....Among white Democrats, Clinton supporters were nearly twice as likely as Obama backers to say at least one negative adjective described blacks well, a finding that suggests many of her supporters in the primaries — particularly whites with high school education or less — were motivated in part by racial attitudes. ....
Racist Democrats....who would have thought???
Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:47 AM
Response to Original message
5. Obama doesn't poll well with racists
That's certainly a demographic that he has some work to do in order to make some inroads.
PaulHo (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 08:00 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. I speak heresy, but if a racist is going to vote in this election...
... I'd prefer that he/she vote for Obama than McCain.
It's going to be that close... I do believe.
Problem is... how to persuade him that voting for Obama is actually voting in his/her best interests.
Why do I keep thinking about "Blazing Saddles" when I think about this campaign?
Joe Steel (34 posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:55 AM
Response to Original message
7. No surprise
America is a fundamentally racist country. We exist because we were willing to kill native Americans to steal their land and enslave black Africans to work it.
Racism is The American Way.
RC (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. You are correct. And most people don't see it.
Rah, rah, rah... One million Iraqis civilians dead is a good thing because it is saving us from the terrorist. Yea war. That is the stance of the United States and we go along with it.
Most of us don't see the Iraqis as real people with the same feelings, wants, needs, love of family and friends and country, etc. as us. Now visualize moving the Iraqi war to England or Europe and just try to kill that many innocents. Ain'ta gonna happen. We can relate here because us whites running and otherwise controlling this country came from there. Yes indeedy, we most truly are a racist country. Speak for yourselves libs. Conservatives see what Iraqi's want---freedom just like we all do. Freedom they were not getting from Saddam. Liberals think they are too ignorant and backward to want (or be able to manage) freedom and possible democracy.:rolleyes:
Pattib (240 posts) Sat Sep-20-08 09:00 AM
Response to Original message
20. Disturbing yes, but take my North Florida county for example....
There are almost 10,000 registered Democrats and 7,000 registered Republicans. Wouldn't one expect that once in a while the vote would be close here? Not even. Every election the Republicans carry the vote and it is by a wide margin. Usually 80% in favor of a Republican candidate, sometimes more. There are a lot of registered Democrats in the South who still claim they are Democrats, yet they never vote for a Democrat. So I take some solace in that fact. Yes, of course it's those Democrats who are really Republicans who are racist.:rolleyes: