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Carol
09-20-2008, 09:20 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7126967


demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:28 AM
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Very disturbing, but unfortunately not shocking, poll
Advertisements [?]This just fucking kills me. If even possible, I apologize on behalf of the idiots among my fellow white folks. I'm sorry to hear that they are not all repugs.


http://news.yahoo.com/page/election-2008-political-pulse-obama-race

Poll: Racial views steer some white Dems away from Obama

WASHINGTON (AP) Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks many calling them "lazy," "violent," responsible for their own troubles.

The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 about two and one-half percentage points.

...Lots of Republicans harbor prejudices, too, but the survey found they weren't voting against Obama because of his race. Most Republicans wouldn't vote for any Democrat for president white, black or brown...

....Among white Democrats, Clinton supporters were nearly twice as likely as Obama backers to say at least one negative adjective described blacks well, a finding that suggests many of her supporters in the primaries particularly whites with high school education or less were motivated in part by racial attitudes. ....
Racist Democrats....who would have thought???

Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:47 AM
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5. Obama doesn't poll well with racists
That's certainly a demographic that he has some work to do in order to make some inroads.


PaulHo (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 08:00 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. I speak heresy, but if a racist is going to vote in this election...
... I'd prefer that he/she vote for Obama than McCain.

It's going to be that close... I do believe.


Problem is... how to persuade him that voting for Obama is actually voting in his/her best interests.

Why do I keep thinking about "Blazing Saddles" when I think about this campaign?

Joe Steel (34 posts) Sat Sep-20-08 07:55 AM
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7. No surprise
America is a fundamentally racist country. We exist because we were willing to kill native Americans to steal their land and enslave black Africans to work it.

Racism is The American Way.

RC (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. You are correct. And most people don't see it.
Rah, rah, rah... One million Iraqis civilians dead is a good thing because it is saving us from the terrorist. Yea war. That is the stance of the United States and we go along with it.
Most of us don't see the Iraqis as real people with the same feelings, wants, needs, love of family and friends and country, etc. as us. Now visualize moving the Iraqi war to England or Europe and just try to kill that many innocents. Ain'ta gonna happen. We can relate here because us whites running and otherwise controlling this country came from there. Yes indeedy, we most truly are a racist country. Speak for yourselves libs. Conservatives see what Iraqi's want---freedom just like we all do. Freedom they were not getting from Saddam. Liberals think they are too ignorant and backward to want (or be able to manage) freedom and possible democracy.:rolleyes:
Pattib (240 posts) Sat Sep-20-08 09:00 AM
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20. Disturbing yes, but take my North Florida county for example....
There are almost 10,000 registered Democrats and 7,000 registered Republicans. Wouldn't one expect that once in a while the vote would be close here? Not even. Every election the Republicans carry the vote and it is by a wide margin. Usually 80% in favor of a Republican candidate, sometimes more. There are a lot of registered Democrats in the South who still claim they are Democrats, yet they never vote for a Democrat. So I take some solace in that fact. Yes, of course it's those Democrats who are really Republicans who are racist.:rolleyes:

FDK
09-20-2008, 12:41 PM
I wouldn't vote for a socialist of ANY color.

Note ot lurking DUmmies:

Raicst DEMOCRATS will cost Obama this election.

FlaGator
09-20-2008, 12:53 PM
Race is not an issue with me. I am not voting for Obama because other than the catch phrases "change" and "hope" I don't really know what he stands for. He does not make clear what change he is trying to make and what he hopes for other than being president. Also, he has no experience worth mentioning and I don't trust him.

movie buff
09-20-2008, 02:12 PM
Of course joe steel is the obligatory DUmmy who decides to try and lay on some fresh guilt for what happened centuries ago.

JB
09-20-2008, 04:20 PM
graywarrior (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 09:31 AM
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23. This problem wakes me up every morning at 4 am and I lay there
obsessiong about it over and over. If anything will lose the election for Obama, it will be racism. It is all over New Hampshire.Racism. The new alarm clock. :D

InspiredHome
09-20-2008, 05:58 PM
At least it's all on the Democrats. Republicans have more important reasons for not voting for Obama. Not that it matters to those who keep bringing up the race issue. (How many times do I have to tell them that there is only ONE race: human. It's a scientific fact.)

Scarlet
09-21-2008, 01:57 AM
I wouldn't vote for a socialist of ANY color.

Note ot lurking DUmmies:

Raicst DEMOCRATS will cost Obama this election.


Got that right!!!!:D
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jeskibuff
09-21-2008, 07:23 AM
PaulHo (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-20-08 08:00 AM
Response to Reply #5
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Problem is... how to persuade him that voting for Obama is actually voting in his/her best interests.Translation: "we've got to come up with some really good lies!"

GrumpyOldLady
09-21-2008, 07:29 AM
Gee .. I wonder why many non-blacks think blacks are liars and racists and uneducated and complainers
- etc etc ?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Z0DL1KXsvAW0fM:http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/_/images11/us_rich_scandal/barack_michelle_obama.jpe

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:XKcQkt-8c4zhBM:http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080428/capt.e2f7215a65f74b878e02607048c32323.obama_pastor _dcsa112.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:4Jxkqln-gJ1cVM:http://www.africawithin.com/farrakhan/louis_farrakhan.jpg[/QUOTE]

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:EXqYykxBdkKysM:http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/cynthia_mckinney.jpg

Considering that these whackadoos are 'black leadership' - the poll isn't a surprise.

lacarnut
09-21-2008, 01:59 PM
Gee .. I wonder why many non-blacks think blacks are liars and racists and uneducated and complainers
- etc etc ?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Z0DL1KXsvAW0fM:http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/_/images11/us_rich_scandal/barack_michelle_obama.jpe

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:XKcQkt-8c4zhBM:http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080428/capt.e2f7215a65f74b878e02607048c32323.obama_pastor _dcsa112.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:4Jxkqln-gJ1cVM:http://www.africawithin.com/farrakhan/louis_farrakhan.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:EXqYykxBdkKysM:http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/cynthia_mckinney.jpg

Considering that these whackadoos are 'black leadership' - the poll isn't a surprise.[/QUOTE]

You left out the Un Reverend Jessie Jackson and grease-ball Al

I predict that a number of white northeastern Democrats will not vote for Obama based on his race. They will either stay home or vote for McCain which will mean doom for Obama. When it happens, you will not hear a peep in the media about those white Democratic racists up north.

jeskibuff
09-21-2008, 02:21 PM
I predict that a number of white northeastern Democrats will not vote for Obama based on his race. They will either stay home or vote for McCain which will mean doom for Obama. When it happens, you will not hear a peep in the media about those white Democratic racists up north.I dunno.

Do you really think that their principles (or lack thereof) would ever stand in the way of their personal agendas? One thing I'm sure of: Democrats are Democrats because they badly WANT the thing most valuable to them, whether that's getting paid for doing nothing, flaunting their homosexuality, or one of the dozens of their other agendas. The thing that threatens their agenda most is MORALITY, which is why they hate and fear conservatives with a passion. If it's just a matter of race, I believe most Democrats will just hold their noses while they vote. Independents or apoliticals may be a different story, as they probably don't have such focused ideologies.

I'm just hoping that as many people as possible find out the truth about Obama and see through his charades. That is what brought down Kerry and it should succeed in kicking the Obamessiah to the curb as well.

AmPat
09-21-2008, 10:00 PM
Gee .. I wonder why many non-blacks think blacks are liars and racists and uneducated and complainers
- etc etc ?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:EXqYykxBdkKysM:http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/cynthia_mckinney.jpg

Considering that these whackadoos are 'black leadership' - the poll isn't a surprise.

You forgot one:

http://i36.tinypic.com/s66gt3.jpg

GrumpyOldLady
09-22-2008, 08:56 AM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:beKDZ1dwdebNEM:http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/m/behind_the_lens_awards_270308/spike_lee_1803738.jpg

Another liar who is in the MSM a lot.

THESE are the people that represent black America.

And black America seems to embrace them.

OF COURSE the poll is going to show that non-blacks see blacks as liars, complainers, etc.
Just look at who is in the spotlight - liars, complainers, etc etc

edited to add - that's Spike Lee - liar. (just in case ya'll didn't know who was in the picture)

lacarnut
09-22-2008, 03:33 PM
I dunno.

Do you really think that their principles (or lack thereof) would ever stand in the way of their personal agendas? One thing I'm sure of: Democrats are Democrats because they badly WANT the thing most valuable to them, whether that's getting paid for doing nothing, flaunting their homosexuality, or one of the dozens of their other agendas. The thing that threatens their agenda most is MORALITY, which is why they hate and fear conservatives with a passion. If it's just a matter of race, I believe most Democrats will just hold their noses while they vote. Independents or apoliticals may be a different story, as they probably don't have such focused ideologies.

I'm just hoping that as many people as possible find out the truth about Obama and see through his charades. That is what brought down Kerry and it should succeed in kicking the Obamessiah to the curb as well.

I do think that there is a very small minority of white Democratic voters that would never vote for a black man in key states like NJ, PA, OH, etc; they will either stay home or vote for McCain. A 5% swing of those voters will doom Obama if on election the race is close. There is no way in the world to factor racism on both sides into the polling data.