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txradioguy
08-11-2012, 04:14 AM
Mitt Romney has tapped Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan to be his running mate, The Associated Press reports.

A Republican with knowledge of the development confirmed the selection to the AP, hours ahead of an official announcement at 8:45 a.m. during a campaign stop Saturday morning in Norfolk, Va. Romney will then launch his "The Romney Plan For A Stronger Middle Class" bus tour.

The selection comes roughly two weeks before the start of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, and gives Romney plenty of space to rally the party behind his pick before the official nomination.

The announcement comes as some polls, including a recent Fox News survey, show the Republican presidential candidate losing some ground to President Obama.

Several Republicans were thought to be on the short list. A GOP source confirmed to Fox News that one of them, Ohio Senator Rob Portman, was informed by Romney himself that he was not the pick.

Ryan, already considered a rising star in the Republican Party, is chairman of the House Budget Committee. He’s been in Congress since 1999 and is best known this session for his controversial budget plan that includes an overhaul of Medicare.

Democrats have persistently tried to vilify that plan as a scheme to “end Medicare as we know it.”

But Ryan, a bookish but telegenic lawmaker, has stuck by his proposal as the solution to an ever-growing deficit inflamed by out-of-control entitlement spending.

Ryan has made fiscal discipline the touchstone of his tenure on the budget committee. As a running mate, Ryan could focus on plans for balancing the government’s books while on the stump, as Romney focuses on his jobs-creation proposals.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/11/romney-has-picked-paul-ryan-as-running-mate-republican-source-tells-associated/

Bailey
08-11-2012, 05:34 AM
Well kiss Florida goodbye, they are going to have a field day with Ryan's budget.

txradioguy
08-11-2012, 06:24 AM
Well kiss Florida goodbye, they are going to have a field day with Ryan's budget.

Don't count out Governor Scott helping us win down there.

Bailey
08-11-2012, 06:42 AM
Don't count out Governor Scott helping us win down there.

I hope so but you know the Dim smear machine will have those seniors whipped into a frenzy for this election :(

SarasotaRepub
08-11-2012, 09:11 AM
He should have picked Cheney. :friendly_wink:

Bailey
08-11-2012, 09:19 AM
He should have picked Cheney. :friendly_wink:

Joking aside, is this a good pick? will it help him?

AmPat
08-11-2012, 09:43 AM
Great pick. The FL seniors will need to have many TV ads to counter the detestable lies that are inevitably coming from the O Blah Blah lie factory.

Rockntractor
08-11-2012, 09:55 AM
If they now go after every detestable aspect of this Marxists life, and philosophy for government they could win, if they decide several things are off limits we may get this as a history lesson later on failure,

AmPat
08-11-2012, 09:57 AM
If they now go after every detestable aspect of this Marxists life, and philosophy for government they could win, if they decide several things are off limits we may get this as a history lesson later on failure,
Echoing Reagan; It's 1776 in America. (Wake up America!)

ABC in Georgia
08-11-2012, 10:13 AM
I'm happy! ... :applause:

Fantastic pick for VP, and fantastic speech, *by* VP!!!

Bet Obama and Biden are sweating it! Especially for the debates! Tough! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Now, go out and get the votes guys!

~ ABC

Starbuck
08-11-2012, 10:17 AM
I think Ryan is a good choice. He has sounds ideas, debates well, and is hard to portray as some sort of right wing wacko, although we all know the Dims will try. I have seen him attacked and he doesn't flinch; always has a good response.

Paint Wisconsin red.:smile-new:

MountainMan
08-11-2012, 10:19 AM
Time to give that Euro-socialist some real fucking R&R (Romney and Ryan)!

I couldn't be happier with the pick. This not only helps out to win Wisconsin but also puts into play the whole upper mid-west which includes Minnesota, Michigan and Ohio.

Bailey
08-11-2012, 10:21 AM
http://youtu.be/zPxMZ1WdINs


I loved this clock cleaning he gave obama, the look on obama's face was priceless

ABC in Georgia
08-11-2012, 10:27 AM
Time to give that Euro-socialist some real fucking R&R (Romney and Ryan)!



Good one, MountainMan! ... :applause: :applause:

~ ABC

Novaheart
08-11-2012, 10:45 AM
Don't count out Governor Scott helping us win down there.

Governor Scott is about as popular as mosquitoes right now.

SarasotaRepub
08-11-2012, 10:48 AM
Romney introduced Ryan as the next PRESIDENT. JHC.

We're friggen doooooomed.

newshutr
08-11-2012, 10:49 AM
Pluggy is going to need a new set put in after his old ones start falling out after the first debate with Ryan..

newshutr
08-11-2012, 10:51 AM
Romney introduced Ryan as the next PRESIDENT. JHC.

We're friggen doooooomed.

That's all the Ass(ociated) Press could focus on...

Hope it plays ok in the 57 states...:biggrin-new:

Janice
08-11-2012, 11:09 AM
Paul Ryan comes out swinging: ‘If you have a small business, you did build that’

Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., is coming out swinging against President Obama’s “record of failure” by attacking his belief in the role of government in the economy.

“I’m proud to stand with a man who understands what it takes to foster job creation in our economy, someone who knows from experience, that if you have a small business—you did build that,” Ryan will say, according to excerpts of his speech released by the campaign.

Ryan then praised Romney for his career at Bain Capital — mentioning that company’s role in launching Staples, especially — before offering this implicit rebuke of Obama’s attacks on Romney: “We Americans look at one another’s success with pride, not resentment, because we know, as more Americans work hard, take risks, and succeed, more people will prosper, our communities will benefit, and individual lives will be improved and uplifted,” Ryan plans to say.

He will also say: “We can turn this thing around. Real solutions can be delivered. But, it will take leadership. And the courage to tell you the truth.”

Here are the available excerpts from Ryan’s speech:

MORE@WashingtonExaminer (http://washingtonexaminer.com/paul-ryan-comes-out-swinging-if-you-have-a-small-business-you-did-build-that/article/2504641#.UCZyuHLNn3I)

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OK! I'm ready for some "You did build that" bumper stickers, coffee mugs and t-shirts. Will be fun to watch Zippy and his flying monkeys go moonbat crazy.

Oh... and for an added bonus.... now Boehner has somebodys shadow he can crawl under to protect him from those big mean dimmocraps on the Hill.

TVDOC
08-11-2012, 11:23 AM
Governor Scott is about as popular as mosquitoes right now.

I guess that's why he was the first governor in US history to survive a recall vote, plus he's also managed to turn a state that for decades has been known as the birthplace of US liberal politics from near bankruptcy into a surplus.......

Stick to the homosexual threads.....at least there you can speak from first-hand knowledge. Politics is obviously not your strong suit.

doc

Zathras
08-11-2012, 11:28 AM
Stick to the homosexual threads.....at least there you can speak from first-hand knowledge. Politics is obviously not your strong suit.

doc

Neither are the homosexual threads.

AmPat
08-11-2012, 11:32 AM
I guess that's why he was the first governor in US history to survive a recall vote, plus he's also managed to turn a state that for decades has been known as the birthplace of US liberal politics from near bankruptcy into a surplus.......

Stick to the homosexual threads.....at least there you can speak from first-hand knowledge. Politics is obviously not your strong suit.

doc


Governor Scott is about as popular as mosquitoes right now.
Oh no! Scott is "unpopular" among lowlife liberals that hated him before their failed recall.

TVDOC
08-11-2012, 11:41 AM
I think Ryan is a good choice. He has sounds ideas, debates well, and is hard to portray as some sort of right wing wacko, although we all know the Dims will try. I have seen him attacked and he doesn't flinch; always has a good response.

Paint Wisconsin red.:smile-new:

I agree for several reaons:

1. Who said that the TEA Party is dead? They have gone from rallies and demonstrations to quietly electing candidates, and thusly changing the Republican Party from the inside. Three years ago they were the subject of derision from the MSM, now members represent a substantial portion of congress, plus the number two man on the presidential ticket. Dead indeed.......

2. Ryan puts Wisconsin solidly in play. His district elected him by substantial margins in the past few congressional elections (in excess of 60%), and the same district was won by Obama in 2008, thus proving that even Democrats are willing to cross over and vote for him.

3. He reinforces Romney to the conservative base, particularly the social conservatives, and creates new appeal to the Catholic vote, which traditionally votes Dem as a group.

4. He appeals to independents, who realize that setting aside social issues, the economy is what this election is all about.

5. Unlike GWB, this pick sets up the potential for a "Republican Dynasty" in the White House due to his relative youth. Assuming Romney is elected, and serves two terms, he's staged for the top spot.

6. Ryan is an excellent speaker, and I simply can't wait to see him destroy that idiot Biden in a debate........that should be aired on Pay-Per-View, and someone could make a fortune......

doc

NJCardFan
08-11-2012, 11:44 AM
I guess that's why he was the first governor in US history to survive a recall vote, plus he's also managed to turn a state that for decades has been known as the birthplace of US liberal politics from near bankruptcy into a surplus.......

Stick to the homosexual threads.....at least there you can speak from first-hand knowledge. Politics is obviously not your strong suit.

doc

Um, guy, Gov. Walker of Wisconsin survived the recall, not Gov. Scott of Florida. Kind of makes your last line a new meaning of the word fail.

Zeus
08-11-2012, 11:48 AM
I Believe Romney made an excellent choice in Ryan .

Stole this from a Dummie: "Mittens and Munster 2012" :Flag2:

TVDOC
08-11-2012, 11:50 AM
Um, guy, Gov. Walker of Wisconsin survived the recall, not Gov. Scott of Florida. Kind of makes your last line a new meaning of the word fail.

My bad.......I stand corrected......

In fact with apologies to Nova, Scott has current approval ratings of about 31%, he's right....

doc

AmPat
08-11-2012, 11:57 AM
My bad.......I stand corrected......

In fact with apologies to Nova, Scott has current approval ratings of about 31%, he's right....

doc
Meh, me too. The ratings are unreliable though. Look at O Blah Blah. He's "popular" too and he is the biggest failure in history.

NJCardFan
08-11-2012, 11:57 AM
And "true conservative" Mike 123456789 still won't be satisfied.

TVDOC
08-11-2012, 12:12 PM
Meh, me too. The ratings are unreliable though. Look at O Blah Blah. He's "popular" too and he is the biggest failure in history.

I'd agree that the ratings are open to question, as they seem to have plunged when Scott announced that he was "purging" the voter rolls in Florida of ineligable voters........one has to question how many illegals comprise the approval sample that arrived at the numbers.

Either floridians are as dumb as they are portrayed on the internet, or there is some underlying cause that isn't readily apparent. Correcting voter registrations should be seen as a plus for those that are really eligible for the franchise.

doc

SaintLouieWoman
08-11-2012, 12:15 PM
My bad.......I stand corrected......

In fact with apologies to Nova, Scott has current approval ratings of about 31%, he's right....

doc

Scott's popularity is drummed down by the constant front page slams at him by the very liberal press here. They will never give him credit for the good job he's been doing and ridicule anything and everything that he does. He actually is turning the state around, as much as one person possibly can.

The problem with Florida is the large number of Northern libs moving here from NY and NJ. I hate to sound like Gator, but he was right on some things. This is one of them. The new residents are turning a former pretty solid Republican state into a purple state. My sister told me that there are very few nasty ads in the St Louis area (presidential), because the democrats have pretty much conceeded Missouri to the Republicans. Maybe we should return there, as I'm getting so sick of listening to all these lying Dem ads here in Florida.

SaintLouieWoman
08-11-2012, 12:18 PM
I'd agree that the ratings are open to question, as they seem to have plunged when Scott announced that he was "purging" the voter rolls in Florida of ineligable voters........one has to question how many illegals comprise the approval sample that arrived at the numbers.

Either floridians are as dumb as they are portrayed on the internet, or there is some underlying cause that isn't readily apparent. Correcting voter registrations should be seen as a plus for those that are really eligible for the franchise.

doc
Sadly, I've met a bunch of people who sort of validate that portrayal. (SR is going to be mad at me on this one). :biggrin-new:

TVDOC
08-11-2012, 12:27 PM
Scott's popularity is drummed down by the constant front page slams at him by the very liberal press here. They will never give him credit for the good job he's been doing and ridicule anything and everything that he does. He actually is turning the state around, as much as one person possibly can.

The problem with Florida is the large number of Northern libs moving here from NY and NJ. I hate to sound like Gator, but he was right on some things. This is one of them. The new residents are turning a former pretty solid Republican state into a purple state. My sister told me that there are very few nasty ads in the St Louis area (presidential), because the democrats have pretty much conceeded Missouri to the Republicans. Maybe we should return there, as I'm getting so sick of listening to all these lying Dem ads here in Florida.

There is actually more to it than that......after the 2010 election, and three years of Obama, Democrats have become an "endangered species" here in Missouri........only two members of the HoR (one to soon be redistricted out), and one senator that's toast come November.......

At the state level, both houses have veto-proof Republican majorities, and our Dem governor acts more like a Republican than a Dem, because he knows that his days are numbered.

Missouri is starting to look a lot like Alabama from a political perspective.

doc

Janice
08-11-2012, 12:30 PM
Sadly, I've met a bunch of people who sort of validate that portrayal. (SR is going to be mad at me on this one). :biggrin-new:

Yes. Unfortunately like much of the country many in Fl get there news from TV alone. Local is not so bad but national (TV news) is absolutely in the tank for Zippy. And the cities naturally attract libs. But if you get away from the cities and the more affluent areas you will find a majority of conservatives. Esp if you get away from southern Fl and away from the campuses.

And Scott is doing a great job. Makes me sick to think Jeb was considered "conservative".

Gina
08-11-2012, 12:38 PM
SR don't worry. Obama introduced Biden as 'the next president' and he still got elected! :biggrin-new:

*runs*


http://youtu.be/ecbhdSLRPtc

Zeus
08-11-2012, 12:41 PM
There is actually more to it than that......after the 2010 election, and three years of Obama, Democrats have become an "endangered species" here in Missouri........only two members of the HoR (one to soon be redistricted out), and one senator that's toast come November.......

At the state level, both houses have veto-proof Republican majorities, and our Dem governor acts more like a Republican than a Dem, because he knows that his days are numbered.

Missouri is starting to look a lot like Alabama from a political perspective.

doc

Texas Has a R Governor , R Controlled Senate , R Controlled HOR and 2 US Senate Republicans. Most the Democrats in the state are more conservative than many Republicans in other states.

TVDOC
08-11-2012, 12:44 PM
Sadly, I've met a bunch of people who sort of validate that portrayal. (SR is going to be mad at me on this one). :biggrin-new:

My oldest son and DIL live in Winter Park, and they would tend to agree.......

Back to the topic.....the hill that Romney/Ryan have to climb is with the seniors in FL. They are never going to get the NY/NJ influx, but the retirees are critical, they need for the entitlement reform message to be clear and concise, and reassure the older voters that their beneftis will remain intact, even improve.

The senior group votes in larger percentages than any other bloc (they have nothing else to do).

doc

Bailey
08-11-2012, 12:46 PM
My oldest son and DIL live in Winter Park, and they would tend to agree.......

Back to the topic.....the hill that Romney/Ryan have to climb is with the seniors in FL. They are never going to get the NY/NJ influx, but the retirees are critical, they need for the entitlement reform message to be clear and concise, and reassure the older voters that their beneftis will remain intact, even improve.

The senior group votes is larger percentages than any other bloc (they have nothing else to do).

doc

I can see this as a major problem, for Romney to over come the MSM and obama's noise machine.

TVDOC
08-11-2012, 12:54 PM
Texas Has a R Governor , R Controlled Senate , R Controlled HOR and 2 US Senate Republicans. Most the Democrats in the state are more conservative than many Republicans in other states.

Certainly commendable.....don't want to "Mess with Texas", but Texas voters managed to bless the Republic with Sheila Jackson Lee........arguably the dumbest member of the HoR in the last century......and we cartainly can't forget Ron Paul.......

doc

NJCardFan
08-11-2012, 01:03 PM
The best line from Ryan's speech: "We get our rights from nature and from God, not from government."

Starbuck
08-11-2012, 02:01 PM
Time to give that Euro-socialist some real fucking R&R (Romney and Ryan)!

I couldn't be happier with the pick. This not only helps out to win Wisconsin but also puts into play the whole upper mid-west which includes Minnesota, Michigan and Ohio.

MM! Good Call!:thumbsup:

As far as I can tell, you were the first to give us a heads up on Ryan. I saw it last night before I went to bed.

txradioguy
08-11-2012, 05:50 PM
Certainly commendable.....don't want to "Mess with Texas", but Texas voters managed to bless the Republic with Sheila Jackson Lee........arguably the dumbest member of the HoR in the last century......and we cartainly can't forget Ron Paul.......

doc

Sheila Jackson-Moonbat is in an inner city district in very Liberal Houston that's guaranteed to keep her getting re-elected as long as she wants.

Dr. Nutz? Well as I've said before he kept getting sent back to D.C> because the people in CD 14 would rather have him than a Dem.

Zeus
08-11-2012, 10:30 PM
Sheila Jackson-Moonbat is in an inner city district in very Liberal Houston that's guaranteed to keep her getting re-elected as long as she wants.

Dr. Nutz? Well as I've said before he kept getting sent back to D.C> because the people in CD 14 would rather have him than a Dem.

Ditto on Sheila Jackass Lee. Dr. nutz Talked a good game but he did manage to bring his district the bacon , even though his district one of the richest in Texas.

Novaheart
08-12-2012, 12:16 AM
Scott's popularity is drummed down by the constant front page slams at him by the very liberal press here.......

Well, that and the fact that he is stabbing the real estate market in the heart with his vendetta against Citizens.



They will never give him credit for the good job he's been doing.......


Such as?



He actually is turning the state around, as much as one person possibly can. .

Really?




....... The new residents are turning a former pretty solid Republican state into a purple state.

Democrats have traditionally outnumbered Republicans in Florida. Republicans won the House in Florida in 1984 for the first time since 1954.

The Fair Districts should go along way to creating a shift in Florida's COngressional delegation more in line with registrations.

txradioguy
08-12-2012, 04:27 AM
Democrats have traditionally outnumbered Republicans in Florida. Republicans won the House in Florida in 1984 for the first time since 1954.

The Fair Districts should go along way to creating a shift in Florida's COngressional delegation more in line with registrations.

Keep telling yourself that sweetie. Keep pumping yourself up and trying to convince yourself that your hero of the 57 States...isn't going to be one and done in the WH.

Whatever gets you through the day.

JoeKwonDo
08-12-2012, 10:34 AM
Funny this turned into a Scott thread...

I love the non Florida people who say things about the real estate market that are clueless. Come to Sarasota, things are kicking ass here. Best market in about 5 years!

Scott did what he said he would do, I give the man crediut and will vote for him again. He like Romney and Ryan live by this great Ryan quote from his acceptance speech: "We won’t blame others...we will take responsibility! "

Novaheart
08-12-2012, 10:34 AM
Keep telling yourself that sweetie. Keep pumping yourself up and trying to convince yourself that your hero of the 57 States...isn't going to be one and done in the WH.

Whatever gets you through the day.

If you are saying that my statements are in error, then kindly correct them. If not, then I don't see the point of your post.

Novaheart
08-12-2012, 10:47 AM
Funny this turned into a Scott thread...

I love the non Florida people who say things about the real estate market that are clueless. Come to Sarasota, things are kicking ass here. Best market in about 5 years!

Scott did what he said he would do, I give the man crediut and will vote for him again. He like Romney and Ryan live by this great Ryan quote from his acceptance speech: "We won’t blame others...we will take responsibility! "

36% of the sales in July were distressed properties.

Zathras
08-12-2012, 11:47 AM
36% of the sales in July were distressed properties.

Two questions for you Nova.

1: Do you have a link that backs up your statement or are you doing what you normally do and just pulling a number out of your ass?

2: How does that number compare to the rest of the country? With a link if you please.

Novaheart
08-12-2012, 12:13 PM
Two questions for you Nova.

1: Do you have a link that backs up your statement or are you doing what you normally do and just pulling a number out of your ass?

2: How does that number compare to the rest of the country? With a link if you please.

You have google.

AmPat
08-12-2012, 12:45 PM
Scott's popularity is drummed down by the constant front page slams at him by the very liberal press here. They will never give him credit for the good job he's been doing and ridicule anything and everything that he does. He actually is turning the state around, as much as one person possibly can.

The problem with Florida is the large number of Northern libs moving here from NY and NJ. I hate to sound like Gator, but he was right on some things. This is one of them. The new residents are turning a former pretty solid Republican state into a purple state. My sister told me that there are very few nasty ads in the St Louis area (presidential), because the democrats have pretty much conceeded Missouri to the Republicans. Maybe we should return there, as I'm getting so sick of listening to all these lying Dem ads here in Florida.
In the N.E. they are called Massholes. Most of the Massholes ruined their state with bankrupting regulation and taxes, then they retire and move to neighboring states where they vote the same idiocy they left. Liberals are like chickens, every day is a new life with no recall of the previous day, hence, no learning.

Janice
08-12-2012, 12:55 PM
Liberals are like chickens, every day is a new life with no recall of the previous day, hence, no learning.

Good analogy. :cool:

txradioguy
08-12-2012, 01:47 PM
You have google.

Not how it works here idiot. You made the claim...YOU provide the source.

Zeus
08-12-2012, 02:40 PM
36% of the sales in July were distressed properties.

Based on what Criteria ?

given the current state of the real estate mkt any property can be considered depressed . Then again any property that sells is no longer a depressed property.

Rockntractor
08-12-2012, 02:53 PM
Not how it works here idiot. You made the claim...YOU provide the source.

This is common with liberals when they come here, they site facts, figures and studies with no links and often with no knowledge of the authors and we are to provide links for them to support their absurd positions. If you have an opinion that is fine, share it. If you want to site someone else provide a link or if not available online at least the author.

Novaheart
08-12-2012, 03:11 PM
Based on what Criteria ?



Bank owned and short sales. Of course, any market report from the Association Of Realtors (other than raw numbers) should be seen as optimistic, since to my knowledge they have no way of knowing what the shadow inventory is or the foreclosure marketing strategies of the major players are, other than to try to keep a balance between price and carrying cost. In other words, it's reasonable to assume that the market is even worse than it appears.

As usual, everything around here is relative to the waterfront properties.

Novaheart
08-12-2012, 03:12 PM
This is common with liberals when they come here, they site facts, figures and studies with no links and often with no knowledge of the authors ........

And it's also common to waste your time answering some idiot like Zathras who has the intellect of a chimp and the attention span of a flea.

Rockntractor
08-12-2012, 03:34 PM
And it's also common to waste your time answering some idiot like Zathras who has the intellect of a chimp and the attention span of a flea.

Your posts here are readable by everyone though few read past the first sentence and a half that you type, only the PM's are person to person.

Zathras
08-12-2012, 03:42 PM
You have google.

You're the one making the claim Nova, not me. It's up to the person making the claim (you) to provide facts to back up their claims, not the person asking (me) you to do so. Therefore it's up to you to provide the facts to your claims, not me.

Good thing you're not a lawyer....you'd suck at it.

Zathras
08-12-2012, 03:45 PM
And it's also common to waste your time answering some idiot like Zathras who has the intellect of a chimp and the attention span of a flea.

Translation: I can't back up what I post with facts when asked to do so I'm going to call people names and insult them.

Thanks for conceeding and admitting I'm right that you don't use facts to back up your claims that you post here on CU.

Zeus
08-12-2012, 04:08 PM
Bank owned and short sales. Of course, any market report from the Association Of Realtors (other than raw numbers) should be seen as optimistic, since to my knowledge they have no way of knowing what the shadow inventory is or the foreclosure marketing strategies of the major players are, other than to try to keep a balance between price and carrying cost. In other words, it's reasonable to assume that the market is even worse than it appears.

As usual, everything around here is relative to the waterfront properties.

Actually Local ,state and National Association of Realtors are an invaluable source of information for gauging the state of the market. Realtors are the ones tasked with marketing properties for banks.

That said there is more to determining if a market is depressed than current sales & types. Historical tracking comes into play by comparing current stats with conditions 6 month to a yr ago,sometimes as much as 5 yrs ago.

While some markets are having a hard time of it others are thriving but the overall status I believe is things are picking up slowly but surely. While interest rates are at historical lows credit requirements have tightened knocking a sizable chunk of prospective buyers out of the market.

Novaheart
08-12-2012, 06:49 PM
Actually Local ,state and National Association of Realtors are an invaluable source of information for gauging the state of the market. Realtors are the ones tasked with marketing properties for banks.

Right, but I doubt that the banks tell the realtors what the size of the shadow inventory is.

If the banks are holding some 440,000 units off the market, then they are manipulating the market and if they are also lending on a house that isn't really worth what they got for it, then we're got another mess on our hands. Right?

Zeus
08-12-2012, 07:03 PM
Right, but I doubt that the banks tell the realtors what the size of the shadow inventory is.

If the banks are holding some 440,000 units off the market, then they are manipulating the market

There is no benefit to a bank holding units off the mkt because to the bank those units aren't an asset but a liability.


and if they are also lending on a house that isn't really worth what they got for it, then we're got another mess on our hands. Right? Not sure what you are saying here ? If you are saying banks are lending more than the property is worth , that's not going to happen that would just increase their risk of a loss. Also with tightening of credit requirements it's not going to happen.

noonwitch
08-13-2012, 10:32 AM
Picking Ryan shores up the Tea Party/traditional conservative base for Romney. I'm not sure how many new voters it brings him, though. I'm not sure it will bring him Wisconsin, and what good is Wisconsin if it costs Romney Florida?