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Janice
08-14-2012, 03:13 PM
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Game Of Thrones Author Trashes ‘Despicable’ GOP: ‘Racists Clad In The Skins Of Dead Elephants’

George R.R. Martin, author of the Game of Thrones novels that were adapted into HBO’s hit series took to the web this past weekend to air his grievances with the Republican Party.

In an angry post on his blog (LiveJournal? What is this, 2002?), the author ranted about what he believes to be “ongoing attempts at voter suppression in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Iowa, and other states where Republicans and their Teabagger allies control key seats of power.”

“It is one thing to attempt to win elections,” he continued. “But trying to do so by denying the most basic and important right of any American citizen to hundreds and thousands of people, on entirely spurious grounds… that goes beyond reprehensible. That is despicable.”

Martin is a self-described Democrat who has used his blog to get political before: he once wrote that President Barack Obama is “the most intelligent president we’ve had since Jimmy Carter.” >>>

Continuing on his anti-GOP rant, the sci-fi author concluded that “the people behind these efforts at disenfranchising large groups of voters (the young, the old, the black, the brown) are not Republicans, since clearly they have scant regard for our republic or its values. They are oligarchs and racists clad in the skins of dead elephants.”

Mediaite.com (http://www.mediaite.com/online/game-of-thrones-author-trashes-despicable-gop-racists-clad-in-the-skins-of-dead-elephants/)

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Well, there goes another author and series I won't be reading or watching. I guess it's easier to write about a fantasy world if you already live in a fantasy world. Democrats were the party that supported slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow. The white people at Selma were all Democrats. The GOP was founded for the purpose of abolishing slavery. Yet Republicans are the racists as the GOP just lets the lie be told so often, it becomes reality (for the uninformed and the left).

noonwitch
08-14-2012, 03:33 PM
I can't comment on voter suppression in other states, but I have been following the Ohio situation in the media. The Ohio GOP is ensuring that early voting is allowed in districts that voted for McCain in 2008, but blocking all early voting in Obama districts. When there is a split on the county elections boards' votes, the republican SOS has intervened and ruled against early voting in those counties. Of course the counties with the most voters (Hamilton, Fulton, etc.) are the ones that went for Obama in 2008.


This has nothing to do with preventing voter fraud. It has everything to do with stacking the electorate to favor one side.

The only way in which anyone, of either party, can say that this is okay is if they want to win at any cost, including preventing legally eligible americans from voting.

Incidentally, my state doesn't have early voting, but it is a statewide rule.

LukeEDay
08-14-2012, 05:48 PM
Martin is a self-described Democrat who has used his blog to get political before: he once wrote that President Barack Obama is “the most intelligent president we’ve had since Jimmy Carter.”

Now I know this man is lost. Wow .. Jimmy Carter was a terrible President, and obama is gaining on the step to be worse than him. He says Carter was an intelligent President? I want some of whatever this guy is smoking. *face palm*

Hubie
08-14-2012, 08:56 PM
Jabba the Hutt wrote Game of Thrones?

NJCardFan
08-14-2012, 10:39 PM
Now I know this man is lost. Wow .. Jimmy Carter was a terrible President, and obama is gaining on the step to be worse than him. He says Carter was an intelligent President? I want some of whatever this guy is smoking. *face palm*

Truth be told, Barry has Carter in his rear view mirrow.

LukeEDay
08-14-2012, 10:42 PM
Truth be told, Barry has Carter in his rear view mirrow.

Well, we haven't had gas rationing under obama yet. But other than that, I would agree that Carter is in his rear view mirror.

Odysseus
08-15-2012, 09:04 AM
Well, we haven't had gas rationing under obama yet. But other than that, I would agree that Carter is in his rear view mirror.

At this point, he should see Carter in every mirror.

I think that the OP puts the lie to HBO's argument that having a severed head of GWB in the movie was an "accident". This guy has BDS all over him.

Zathras
08-15-2012, 11:50 AM
hey Martin, stick to what you're good at, writing books.

Hubie
08-15-2012, 12:07 PM
hey Martin, stick to what you're good at, writing books.

Wow. The meaning of "what you're good at" sure has changed a lot. :evil-grin:

noonwitch
08-15-2012, 01:03 PM
I haven't read the books, but I am totally hooked on the HBO series. Anyone who watches it should know that Martin is not exactly a conservative-homosexuality is depicted on the show as a normal thing, although some of the soldiers joke about it as it pertains to Remly, who was married to his lover's sister, but was killed off last season.

m00
08-15-2012, 01:52 PM
Okay. The guy is great at creating internally consistent and immersive fantasy worlds... and he's brilliant at intrigue and fleshing out a living, breathing, universe. Don't really care about his political views. Just as I wouldn't care to read fantasy books written by Barry Goldwater.

AmPat
08-15-2012, 02:54 PM
I can't comment on voter suppression in other states, but I have been following the Ohio situation in the media. The Ohio GOP is ensuring that early voting is allowed in districts that voted for McCain in 2008, but blocking all early voting in Obama districts. When there is a split on the county elections boards' votes, the republican SOS has intervened and ruled against early voting in those counties. Of course the counties with the most voters (Hamilton, Fulton, etc.) are the ones that went for Obama in 2008.


This has nothing to do with preventing voter fraud. It has everything to do with stacking the electorate to favor one side.

The only way in which anyone, of either party, can say that this is okay is if they want to win at any cost, including preventing legally eligible americans from voting.

Incidentally, my state doesn't have early voting, but it is a statewide rule.
You call it "voter suppression," your masters are pleased. i say the districts you mention are "profiling." They know where the DIMoRAT's have been crapping on voting laws and voters.

“It is one thing to attempt to win elections,” he continued. “But trying to do so by denying the most basic and important right of any American citizen to hundreds and thousands of people, on entirely spurious grounds… that goes beyond reprehensible. That is despicable.”
I suppose it is less despicable to allow illegals to vote ILLEGALLY? DIMS-Idiots all!

ThinkingBig
08-15-2012, 08:56 PM
Democrats were the party that supported slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow. The white people at Selma were all Democrats. The GOP was founded for the purpose of abolishing slavery. Yet Republicans are the racists as the GOP just lets the lie be told so often, it becomes reality (for the uninformed and the left).

Fuck me, are you really that stupid?

The Southern Dems were the CONSERVATIVE SMALL GOVERNMENT party during that period. They wanted the fed to stay the hell out of their state business.

If you passed high school level U.S. History, you must know that the two major parties in U.S. politics have switched right/left polarities twice.

Lincoln was a progressive that wanted to tell people how to live and think about slavery.

Not all Republicans are racists, and not all Democrats are pot-smoking homosexuals. Absolutism, all or nothing, black/white thinking will be the downfall of this country.

Open your mind, sweetie.

AmPat
08-15-2012, 09:10 PM
Fuck me, are you really that stupid?

The Southern Dems were the CONSERVATIVE SMALL GOVERNMENT party during that period. They wanted the fed to stay the hell out of their state business.

If you passed high school level U.S. History, you must know that the two major parties in U.S. politics have switched right/left polarities twice.

Lincoln was a progressive that wanted to tell people how to live and think about slavery.

Not all Republicans are racists, and not all Democrats are pot-smoking homosexuals. Absolutism, all or nothing, black/white thinking will be the downfall of this country.

Open your mind, sweetie.Looks to me as though you're the knuckle head here. She made true statements that you ignored in your childish retort. Where did she claim DIMS were big gov't??? Looking, searching,,NOPE! Not there. Now go back to your blankey and suck your thumb.

Odysseus
08-16-2012, 12:08 AM
Fuck me, are you really that stupid?

The Southern Dems were the CONSERVATIVE SMALL GOVERNMENT party during that period. They wanted the fed to stay the hell out of their state business.

If you passed high school level U.S. History, you must know that the two major parties in U.S. politics have switched right/left polarities twice.

Lincoln was a progressive that wanted to tell people how to live and think about slavery.

Not all Republicans are racists, and not all Democrats are pot-smoking homosexuals. Absolutism, all or nothing, black/white thinking will be the downfall of this country.

Open your mind, sweetie.

You're just a fountain of ignorant talking points, aren't you?

Democrats throughout the nation opposed civil rights legislation, including the Progressive left. Woodrow Wilson segregated the city of Washington DC and the US Civil Service. FDR refused to sign anti-lynching legislation. It was good liberal Democrats in Boston who rioted over integration in their schools in the 70s. Lyndon Johnson believed that the Great Society would create a permanent dependency on government among blacks, and spoke of it in virulently racist language. Here's the quote:

"I'll have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years."

And here he is using similar language regarding voting rights:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms

And here's another one from Johnson:

“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”
–Lyndon B. Johnson

Not good enough? How about Harry Truman?

"I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America."
- President Harry Truman


And, let's remember that this isn't ancient history. The current Democratic VP has a history of incendiary racist comments:

"You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent."
- Joe Biden

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy."
— Joe Biden

“There’s less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than 4% or 5% that is, are minorities. What is it in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you’re dealing with.”
— Joe Biden

That last one was Biden's explanation of poor school performance in DC. Now, remember a few years ago, there was a flap about South Carolina flying a Confederate flag? Guess who put it there? That's right, a Democrat, specifically Fritz Hollings, who was the governor at the time, but then went on to the US Senate, where he presented this gem:


"You'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva."
-- Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)

No? How about the last sitting senator to have been a member of the KKK?


“I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state …. The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia …. It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va …. I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities.” — Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the “conscience of the Senate”, in a letter written in 1946, after he claimed to have quit the KKK.

"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."
-- Robert "KKK" Byrd

Pretty vicious, right? But no northern Democrat would ever tolerate that attitude, would they? Not, say, a good liberal from Connecticut, like Chris Dodd?

“I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation.”
–Sen. Christopher Dodd


Yeah, he'd have certainly been on the right side of the slavery question, wouldn't he? :rolleyes:

BTW, at the height of the Civil Rights movement, it was Democrats who filibustered Civil Rights legislation. Why? Let's ask a legend of the Democratic Party:


“I have never seen very many white people who felt they were being imposed upon or being subjected to any second-class citizenship if they were directed to a waiting room or to any other public facility to wait or to eat with other white people. Only the Negroes, of all the races which are in this land, publicly proclaim they are being mistreated, imposed upon, and declared second-class citizens because they must go to public facilities with members of their own race.”
–Sen. Richard B. Russell Jr. (D-GA) (The Russell Senate Office Building is named after him.)


And that's just anti-black rhetoric. Throw in the antisemitism that is rampant among Democrats today, and you've got a party that makes the Civil War Democrats sound like Abraham Lincoln.

Oh, and let's also remember that it was Ike who enforced Brown Vs. Board of Education by sending the 101st Airborne Division to Arkansas. This was after he signed the first civil rights bill since 1875, in 1957.

Not enough? How about Richard Nixon? "I am convinced that while legal segregation is totally wrong, forced integration of housing or education is just as wrong."

"Nixon's Cabinet committee on school desegregation, under the leadership of Labor Secretary George P. Shultz, quietly set up local biracial committees to assure smooth compliance without violence or political grandstanding. By fall of 1970, two million southern black children enrolled in newly created unitary fully integrated school districts. "In this sense, Nixon was the greatest school desegregator in American history," historian Dean Kotlowski concluded.
(http://www.xtimeline.com/evt/view.aspx?id=78339)

The parties didn't realign on Civil Rights, the Democrats simply moved the goalposts. As the Democratic Party moved left, it embraced socialist concepts of economic rights to other people's property, and redefined civil rights in terms of redistribution of wealth. They're still bigots, but their bigotry is expressed in paternalistic welfare statism that infantilizes the people that they claim to care for, even as they render them incapable of acting on their own behalf.

NJCardFan
08-16-2012, 01:31 AM
Ody, you should write a book.

AmPat
08-16-2012, 12:22 PM
You're just a fountain of ignorant talking points, aren't you?

Democrats throughout the nation opposed civil rights legislation, including the Progressive left. Woodrow Wilson segregated the city of Washington DC and the US Civil Service. FDR refused to sign anti-lynching legislation. It was good liberal Democrats in Boston who rioted over integration in their schools in the 70s. Lyndon Johnson believed that the Great Society would create a permanent dependency on government among blacks, and spoke of it in virulently racist language. Here's the quote:
"I'll have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years."

And here he is using similar language regarding voting rights:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms

And here's another one from Johnson:
“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”
–Lyndon B. Johnson

Not good enough? How about Harry Truman?
"I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America."
- President Harry Truman


And, let's remember that this isn't ancient history. The current Democratic VP has a history of incendiary racist comments:
"You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent."
- Joe Biden

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy."
— Joe Biden

“There’s less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than 4% or 5% that is, are minorities. What is it in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you’re dealing with.”
— Joe Biden

That last one was Biden's explanation of poor school performance in DC. Now, remember a few years ago, there was a flap about South Carolina flying a Confederate flag? Guess who put it there? That's right, a Democrat, specifically Fritz Hollings, who was the governor at the time, but then went on to the US Senate, where he presented this gem:

"You'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva."
-- Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)

No? How about the last sitting senator to have been a member of the KKK?

“I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state …. The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia …. It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va …. I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities.” — Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the “conscience of the Senate”, in a letter written in 1946, after he claimed to have quit the KKK.

"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."
-- Robert "KKK" Byrd

Pretty vicious, right? But no northern Democrat would ever tolerate that attitude, would they? Not, say, a good liberal from Connecticut, like Chris Dodd?
“I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation.”
–Sen. Christopher Dodd


Yeah, he'd have certainly been on the right side of the slavery question, wouldn't he? :rolleyes:

BTW, at the height of the Civil Rights movement, it was Democrats who filibustered Civil Rights legislation. Why? Let's ask a legend of the Democratic Party:

“I have never seen very many white people who felt they were being imposed upon or being subjected to any second-class citizenship if they were directed to a waiting room or to any other public facility to wait or to eat with other white people. Only the Negroes, of all the races which are in this land, publicly proclaim they are being mistreated, imposed upon, and declared second-class citizens because they must go to public facilities with members of their own race.”
–Sen. Richard B. Russell Jr. (D-GA) (The Russell Senate Office Building is named after him.)


And that's just anti-black rhetoric. Throw in the antisemitism that is rampant among Democrats today, and you've got a party that makes the Civil War Democrats sound like Abraham Lincoln.

Oh, and let's also remember that it was Ike who enforced Brown Vs. Board of Education by sending the 101st Airborne Division to Arkansas. This was after he signed the first civil rights bill since 1875, in 1957.

Not enough? How about Richard Nixon? "I am convinced that while legal segregation is totally wrong, forced integration of housing or education is just as wrong."
"Nixon's Cabinet committee on school desegregation, under the leadership of Labor Secretary George P. Shultz, quietly set up local biracial committees to assure smooth compliance without violence or political grandstanding. By fall of 1970, two million southern black children enrolled in newly created unitary fully integrated school districts. "In this sense, Nixon was the greatest school desegregator in American history," historian Dean Kotlowski concluded.
(http://www.xtimeline.com/evt/view.aspx?id=78339)

The parties didn't realign on Civil Rights, the Democrats simply moved the goalposts. As the Democratic Party moved left, it embraced socialist concepts of economic rights to other people's property, and redefined civil rights in terms of redistribution of wealth. They're still bigots, but their bigotry is expressed in paternalistic welfare statism that infantilizes the people that they claim to care for, even as they render them incapable of acting on their own behalf.
This is something I have poked liberals in the eyes with for years. I went to college as an ignorant and wide-eyed Carter supporter. I left college as a life-time Conservative. (The last mistake I made was voting for Ross Perot, a mistake I will not repeat).

Liberals cannot stand their history and mask their racism in trite little words and phrases. They ARE the biggots and all their projections will not change that.

Hubie
08-16-2012, 05:45 PM
Fuck me, are you really that stupid?

The Southern Dems were the CONSERVATIVE SMALL GOVERNMENT party during that period. They wanted the fed to stay the hell out of their state business.

If you passed high school level U.S. History, you must know that the two major parties in U.S. politics have switched right/left polarities twice.

Lincoln was a progressive that wanted to tell people how to live and think about slavery.

Not all Republicans are racists, and not all Democrats are pot-smoking homosexuals. Absolutism, all or nothing, black/white thinking will be the downfall of this country.

Open your mind, sweetie.

Revisionist history is the bread and butter of the left.

Zeus
08-16-2012, 06:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmHB2jduRhs&playnext=1&list=PLD7A7DBEB1C28 2EBF&feature=results_video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyhfEvqceB4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhEBE68g26s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1MqCtGt7nk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN78Augc8AY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3LqPedoxSk

Hubie
08-16-2012, 09:52 PM
Thanks, Zeus! Those were great!

LukeEDay
08-16-2012, 09:55 PM
Anyone who says that the parties flip flopped is full of total garbage. That is the liberals way of trying to distance themselves from the parties past.. Any sane person will see right through the clouds of smoke they are blowing out of their crack pipe.

Odysseus
08-17-2012, 09:04 AM
Okay. The guy is great at creating internally consistent and immersive fantasy worlds... and he's brilliant at intrigue and fleshing out a living, breathing, universe. Don't really care about his political views. Just as I wouldn't care to read fantasy books written by Barry Goldwater.

Most liberals' political views are based on internally consistent and immersive fantasy worlds, so it makes sense to him that Jimmy Carter was a great president, and Obama is, too.


Ody, you should write a book.

I think I just did... :friendly_wink:

Zeus
08-17-2012, 11:49 AM
Thanks, Zeus! Those were great!

The Charge of The republican party as the party of racists has gone unchallenged for so long many accept it as truth. It must be hammered over the heads of anybody making such a claim. That and the fallacy that the party's switched sides.

Ody did an excellent job of making the point.

m00
08-18-2012, 01:45 PM
Most liberals' political views are based on internally consistent and immersive fantasy worlds, so it makes sense to him that Jimmy Carter was a great president, and Obama is, too.

I was thinking the same thing... if we didnt have crazy liberals, then we wouldnt have awesome fantasy and scifi novels. :smile-new:

Hubie
08-18-2012, 06:49 PM
I was thinking the same thing... if we didnt have crazy liberals, then we wouldnt have awesome fantasy and scifi novels. :smile-new:

As the very intelligent, very beautiful Laura Ingraham would say: "Shut up and write."