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Gina
09-05-2012, 10:57 AM
Link (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/09/05/alec-baldwin-if-obama-was-white-he-d-be-17-points)

He's baaaaaaack!

CBS's Washington, D.C., affiliate reported at its website Tuesday that the perilously liberal actor Alec Baldwin has returned to Twitter to make a truly preposterous claim about how racism is negatively impacting Barack Obama's reelection chances:

Taking to his Alec Baldwin Foundation Twitter account, Baldwin wrote that President Obama would have a commanding lead if he wasn’t black.

“If Obama was white, he’d be up by 17 points,” Baldwin tweeted.

Unfortunately, Baldwin's Foundation account is protected and only allows access to "confirmed followers." As Baldwin cowardly blocks me, I can't produce a link or an embed to the offending tweet.

However, what Baldwin ignores is that if Barack Obama was white, he never would have beaten Hillary Clinton in the 2008 primaries and therefore would only step foot in the White House if invited by the duly-elected resident.

Liberal media members hell-bent on playing this race card whenever it suits them always ignore this immutable fact.

But that wasn't Baldwin's only racial comment of late. On Tuesday, he called country music's Hank Williams Jr. "a broken down, senile, racist coot." This apparently was in response to anti-Obama statements made by Williams.

And according to CBS-DC, Baldwin tweeted last week, "Romney will continue the GOP legacy of crippling less powerful Americans in order to elevate rich, white, heterosexual, Christian males.”

Capital One must be so proud of its spokesman.

(HT Breitbart)
More at link.

wasp69
09-05-2012, 11:08 AM
“If Obama was white, he’d be up by 17 points,” Baldwin tweeted.


Well, now, gee, Alec, if that were the case, how the Hell do you explain how the rookie twit got elected in the first place?

noonwitch
09-05-2012, 02:22 PM
Hey, Alec, if you were poor and black, CPS would have investigated you after you left that infamous "little pig" message on your daughter's voice mail.


Your commment is not helping Obama, btw, in case that was your intention.

FlaGator
09-05-2012, 04:05 PM
If Obama was white he'd be Jimmy Carter.

Odysseus
09-05-2012, 04:06 PM
In 1980, a white guy with the same record lost in a landslide. Remember Jimmy Carter, Alec?

Bailey
09-05-2012, 04:09 PM
This guy is a tool, I hope the fat bastard grabs his chest on one of those Credit card commercials and falls over.

LukeEDay
09-05-2012, 04:11 PM
This race card crap is getting so old. Yawn!

Unreconstructed Reb
09-08-2012, 01:04 PM
Since The One is half white shouldn't Baldwin have said, "If 0bama was all white he'd be up by 17 points!"

:evil-grin:

Unreconstructed Reb
09-08-2012, 01:08 PM
Hey, Alec, if you were poor and black, CPS would have investigated you after you left that infamous "little pig" message on your daughter's voice mail.




If Alec were poor and white he would have been investigated, as well. I really hate this race card that you libs love to play. :cold:


Your commment is not helping Obama, btw, in case that was your intention.

That's a good thing, right? :cool:

SaintLouieWoman
09-08-2012, 02:12 PM
If Alec were poor and white he would have been investigated, as well. I really hate this race card that you libs love to play. :cold:



That's a good thing, right? :cool:

Noonwitch wasn't playing the race card.

Unreconstructed Reb
09-08-2012, 05:14 PM
Noonwitch wasn't playing the race card.

Sounded like it to me. Why did she have to say "poor and black"? She could have simply stated that his elitist status, regardless of color, was the reason that he wasn't investigated instead of playing the race game.

JB
09-08-2012, 08:40 PM
Taking to his Alec Baldwin Foundation Twitter accountIs that foundation a tax-exempt organization?

If so, someone call the IRS.

Gina
09-08-2012, 09:05 PM
Sounded like it to me. Why did she have to say "poor and black"? She could have simply stated that his elitist status, regardless of color, was the reason that he wasn't investigated instead of playing the race game.

Maybe it was one of those 'kernal of truth' comments. She knows about CPS, maybe what she said is true, which would indicate that Michigan's CPS is more apt to investigate you if you're poor and black? Just a guess.

NJCardFan
09-09-2012, 12:04 AM
Truth be known, if Obama was white, he would be so far behind you could call the race today. While watching the 2016 movie, one guy said something very profound and that was if Obama was white, do you think that he would go from the Illinois state senate to the White House in 2 years?

Novaheart
09-09-2012, 12:59 AM
Truth be known, if Obama was white, he would be so far behind you could call the race today. While watching the 2016 movie, one guy said something very profound and that was if Obama was white, do you think that he would go from the Illinois state senate to the White House in 2 years?

I realize that I am not typical, that in fact I am disinterested in a great deal of what happens more than 50 miles from salt water, but I confess that I didn't know who Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore were when their names were first mentioned presidentially. I first heard Al Gore's name from a waiter named Kelly, who looked like a prop for West Wing. He walked up to my bar and said, "I want to tell you a name, it's Al Gore, and he's going to be President of the United States."

So yes, I can believe that a white man could do what Obama has done. But, I don't think he could do it on the promise of being the first black president.

Unreconstructed Reb
09-09-2012, 09:50 AM
I realize that I am not typical, that in fact I am disinterested in a great deal of what happens more than 50 miles from salt water, but I confess that I didn't know who Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore were when their names were first mentioned presidentially. I first heard Al Gore's name from a waiter named Kelly, who looked like a prop for West Wing. He walked up to my bar and said, "I want to tell you a name, it's Al Gore, and he's going to be President of the United States."

So yes, I can believe that a white man could do what Obama has done. But, I don't think he could do it on the promise of being the first black president.

And as long as the disinterested and the stupid keep voting the chances for another charlatan to emerge out of nowhere, make vapid promises of utopia and get elected POTUS are very good.

Odysseus
09-09-2012, 11:21 AM
Maybe it was one of those 'kernal of truth' comments. She knows about CPS, maybe what she said is true, which would indicate that Michigan's CPS is more apt to investigate you if you're poor and black? Just a guess.

Sounds like Noonie and her employers need to have DOJ look at the disparity of their judgments. :evil-grin:


I realize that I am not typical, that in fact I am disinterested in a great deal of what happens more than 50 miles from salt water, but I confess that I didn't know who Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore were when their names were first mentioned presidentially. I first heard Al Gore's name from a waiter named Kelly, who looked like a prop for West Wing. He walked up to my bar and said, "I want to tell you a name, it's Al Gore, and he's going to be President of the United States."

So yes, I can believe that a white man could do what Obama has done. But, I don't think he could do it on the promise of being the first black president.

Actually, it did happen. JFK was a first term senator with very little behind him in terms of experience when he announced that he was running. Since then, the Democrats have always picked the least exposed candidate for the nomination when there wasn't an incumbent or heir apparent (previous administration Veep) available. Look at the record:

1960: Kennedy - Charismatic first try at the nomination
1964: Johnson - JFK's Veep
1968: Humphrey - Johnson's Veep, second choice to RFK, who was the charismatic rookie
1972: McGovern - First attempt at nomination
1976: Carter - First attempt at nomination
1980: Carter - incumbent
1984: Mondale - Carter's Veep
1988: Dukakis - First attempt at nomination
1992: Clinton - First attempt at nomination
1996: Clinton - Incumbent
2000: Gore - Clinton's Veep
2004: Kerry - First attempt at nomination
2008: Obama - First attempt at nomination
2012: Obama - Incumbent
2016: If the pattern holes, it will be Biden as the nominee, although Hillary, as the Secretary of State, is also a plausible heir apparent.

So, it is possible for a charismatic rookie to go from obscurity to the nomination, but generally, the Democrats like a bit more of a resume behind their nominees. Carter and Clinton were governors, and Gore had a lot of time in the house and senate before his first run for the nomination. The real issue with Obama wasn't simply his obscurity, but his complete lack of any semblance of qualifications for the job and his use of the race card to attack anyone who questioned it. In that regard, Obama's race was a critical tool in getting the nomination. It was also the only way that he could beat the first woman with a real chance to get the nomination. In the identity politics sweepstakes, race beat gender this time.

NJCardFan
09-09-2012, 11:42 AM
I realize that I am not typical, that in fact I am disinterested in a great deal of what happens more than 50 miles from salt water, but I confess that I didn't know who Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore were when their names were first mentioned presidentially. I first heard Al Gore's name from a waiter named Kelly, who looked like a prop for West Wing. He walked up to my bar and said, "I want to tell you a name, it's Al Gore, and he's going to be President of the United States."

So yes, I can believe that a white man could do what Obama has done. But, I don't think he could do it on the promise of being the first black president.

What a stupid, ignorant response. You are so full of yourself it isn't funny. So, because YOU never heard of these people then they couldn't possibly be anything. You are such an idiot and thank you for gleaning just what you wanted from my post. But since you're finished, allow me to retort. First, if you would kindly re-read what I posted, I said that no other politician in history has gone from being a simple state legislator to the presidency in such a short amount of time than Obama. No one. Does that speak of well of his abilities? Hardly. He was a manufactured candidate plain and simple not to mention that his dirty tactics got him in the Illinois and US senate in the first place. That said, the only reason he was so popular was that he can read well(he can't speak without a teleprompter) and that he was a charismatic black man. 2nd, Carter and Clinton were both governors before running for president so their political resumes were far and above more qualified than Obama. 3rd, and this goes to show you what hole you must be living in, Al Gore was the vice president 8 years running. So that gives him more credibility over someone who's only major recorded vote was to allow for post birth abortions. So with that, go back to where there is salt water and soak your head.

NJCardFan
09-09-2012, 11:48 AM
Sounds like Noonie and her employers need to have DOJ look at the disparity of their judgments. :evil-grin:



Actually, it did happen. JFK was a first term senator with very little behind him in terms of experience when he announced that he was running. Since then, the Democrats have always picked the least exposed candidate for the nomination when there wasn't an incumbent or heir apparent (previous administration Veep) available. Look at the record:

1960: Kennedy - Charismatic first try at the nomination
1964: Johnson - JFK's Veep
1968: Humphrey - Johnson's Veep, second choice to RFK, who was the charismatic rookie
1972: McGovern - First attempt at nomination
1976: Carter - First attempt at nomination
1980: Carter - incumbent
1984: Mondale - Carter's Veep
1988: Dukakis - First attempt at nomination
1992: Clinton - First attempt at nomination
1996: Clinton - Incumbent
2000: Gore - Clinton's Veep
2004: Kerry - First attempt at nomination
2008: Obama - First attempt at nomination
2012: Obama - Incumbent
2016: If the pattern holes, it will be Biden as the nominee, although Hillary, as the Secretary of State, is also a plausible heir apparent.

So, it is possible for a charismatic rookie to go from obscurity to the nomination, but generally, the Democrats like a bit more of a resume behind their nominees. Carter and Clinton were governors, and Gore had a lot of time in the house and senate before his first run for the nomination. The real issue with Obama wasn't simply his obscurity, but his complete lack of any semblance of qualifications for the job and his use of the race card to attack anyone who questioned it. In that regard, Obama's race was a critical tool in getting the nomination. It was also the only way that he could beat the first woman with a real chance to get the nomination. In the identity politics sweepstakes, race beat gender this time.
JFK was hardly obscure though. He was a war hero and his father had enormous power. Same with RFK. He was AG under his brother and running off of his brother's memory. Mondale was Carter's veep. Dukakis was a governor. LBJ and McGovern were also Senators. The point is, of all the past presidents since George Washington, there has been none with as little a resume as Obama.

Unreconstructed Reb
09-09-2012, 12:45 PM
So with that, go back to where there is salt water and soak your head.

And contaminate our precious salt water?

Odysseus
09-09-2012, 12:49 PM
JFK was hardly obscure though. He was a war hero and his father had enormous power. Same with RFK. He was AG under his brother and running off of his brother's memory. Mondale was Carter's veep. Dukakis was a governor. LBJ and McGovern were also Senators. The point is, of all the past presidents since George Washington, there has been none with as little a resume as Obama.

But JFK was considered a rookie, by the standards of the day. He had a high profile in social circles, but very little experience in government or business. He was considered more of a show horse than a work horse, and his election owed a great deal to television, and his looks, rather than any substance. RFK had more chops in government, but both of them were still more celebrities than statesmen, and their campaigns were based on that more than their command of the issues or the mechanics of government.

AmPat
09-16-2012, 11:24 AM
Alec Baldwin: ‘If Obama Was White, He’d Be Up By 17 Points’
Hey Numbnuts, If O Blowhard were White, he would be a community organizer at local political levels in $hicago.

DumbAss Tanker
09-16-2012, 08:10 PM
Ha, if Obama was White, the MSM would be using him for a doormat, grinding in the mud, and then leaving a flaming sack of dogshit on top of him and ringing the electorate's doorbell.

Odysseus
09-16-2012, 09:38 PM
Obama owes his success to being black enough to present himself as a post-racial healer to enough gullible whites to get himself elected. White liberals desperately wanted to be able to vote for a black candidate who wasn't a racial huckster (Jesse Jackson) or arsonist (Al Sharpton), someone who would be able to give them absolution for being privileged white liberals, and to whom they could demonstrate their lack of racist beliefs. Obama presented himself as a well-spoken moderate in the Colin Powell mode, and the rest is history. It wasn't until he had to govern that he demonstrated an almost complete disdain for work and utter inability to function as an executive, but by then, it was too late.

Gina
09-17-2012, 11:39 AM
Obama owes his success to being black enough to present himself as a post-racial healer to enough gullible whites to get himself elected. White liberals desperately wanted to be able to vote for a black candidate who wasn't a racial huckster (Jesse Jackson) or arsonist (Al Sharpton), someone who would be able to give them absolution for being privileged white liberals, and to whom they could demonstrate their lack of racist beliefs. Obama presented himself as a well-spoken moderate in the Colin Powell mode, and the rest is history. It wasn't until he had to govern that he demonstrated an almost complete disdain for work and utter inability to function as an executive, but by then, it was too late.

Well put, and if those gullible white folks vote for him again there's no accounting for idiocy. If he was white (getting back to the OP) he would be a held a little more responsible for his failures in leadership. BUT he is a democrat so even that would be tamped down a bit.

Elspeth
09-18-2012, 12:44 AM
Obama owes his success to being black enough to present himself as a post-racial healer to enough gullible whites to get himself elected. White liberals desperately wanted to be able to vote for a black candidate who wasn't a racial huckster (Jesse Jackson) or arsonist (Al Sharpton), someone who would be able to give them absolution for being privileged white liberals, and to whom they could demonstrate their lack of racist beliefs. Obama presented himself as a well-spoken moderate in the Colin Powell mode, and the rest is history. It wasn't until he had to govern that he demonstrated an almost complete disdain for work and utter inability to function as an executive, but by then, it was too late.

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Odysseus
09-18-2012, 07:54 PM
Wait a minute! Obama is half white! Doesn't that mean that he should be 8.5 points ahead? :rolleyes: