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Junebug68
09-22-2008, 06:46 PM
This is just plain nasty.


bob_weaver (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-22-08 12:06 AM
Original message
I dropped this note into the collection basket at my Mom's church today: "You do not have the right to make political statements during the Mass. A major tenet of the United States Constitution is separation of church and state, and you have crossed that clearly defined boundary of separation. Your tax-exempt status is at risk. The church does not have the right to tell parishoners how to vote, or even what criteria to use when voting. This is not the first time this has happened at (-name of church-) If this continues, you will be facing a lawsuit challenging your tax-exempt status. For now, we have decided to donate all the money we would have donated to (-name of church-) in the next 2 months to the No on 8 campaign, to reflect our support of same-sex marriage. After that, we will permanently donate all money that we would have donated to the Mission to Planned Parenthood instead. (-name of church-) will not get any of our money, ever again.

Why? Why not just not give your money? Why try to hurt others? Oh yeah, they're DUmmies, I forgot.


az chela (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-22-08 12:08 AM
Response to Original message
1. Wow Good for you,I want to be the first to say THANK YOU

This is the enemy folks, this is what we're dealing with.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4055727

Carol
09-22-2008, 07:33 PM
TooBigaTent (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-22-08 04:18 PM
Response to Original message
98. Put a McCain sign on the front lawn of the church, take a photo, and send it to the media and the
IRS.

That "evidence" added to enough complaints could have an effect. Probably not in time for this election, but for the future. Well, if we hear of a church who is being investigated by the IRS, and they say that they did not have a McCain sign out front of the church we can always direct them here.

A lawsuit or a visit by the IRS to Democrat Underground :D should do the trick. The comments can be traced directly to them via IP addresses and usernames. (for reference see kernel)

movie buff
09-23-2008, 09:24 AM
Weaver would threaten to sue his own church for saying things he disagreed with, and also punish them for it by donating all the rest of their collection money to support of things Christianity views as an abomination?
It's the lib strategy: Sue first, ask questions later.

Gingersnap
09-23-2008, 10:39 AM
I assume this is a Roman Catholic church since this guy would have already been counseled to fish or cut bait in any orthodox Anglican or Lutheran church.

If so, then he is already outside a state of grace and unworthy to take communion until he receives absolution. The RCC is crystal clear on its positions involving abortion and homosexual behavior. These aren't negotiable points. Sadly, relatively few cultural Catholics have been instructed in their own faith enough to understand the RCC's theological argument here.

No matter how much you enjoy the artwork (unlikely in a contemporary RCC church) or the coffee club fellowship, if you are at odds with the fundamental or creedal doctrines of your faith, you need to either go along with it while believing that smarter authorities than you require it or you need to leave for a more congenial atmosphere.

movie buff
09-23-2008, 12:42 PM
I assume this is a Roman Catholic church since this guy would have already been counseled to fish or cut bait in any orthodox Anglican or Lutheran church.

If so, then he is already outside a state of grace and unworthy to take communion until he receives absolution. The RCC is crystal clear on its positions involving abortion and homosexual behavior. These aren't negotiable points. Sadly, relatively few cultural Catholics have been instructed in their own faith enough to understand the RCC's theological argument here.

No matter how much you enjoy the artwork (unlikely in a contemporary RCC church) or the coffee club fellowship, if you are at odds with the fundamental or creedal doctrines of your faith, you need to either go along with it while believing that smarter authorities than you require it or you need to leave for a more congenial atmosphere.

DUmmie FUnnies posted a full version of the thread in question.
It was indeed a Catholic church, but Weaver is not a Catholic, he mentions that the only reason why he was even there was because his 89- year- old mother was physically incapable of driving to and from church (Which makes it all the more ridiculous that he should be criticizing the church and refusing to donate to it any more, considering that he wasn't a member and never donated to the church in the first place). He says that he tunes out the sermons and everything, yet he apparently was able to pick up a potentially offensive message in this particular sermon (Though nowhere in the thread does he say what particularly offended him that day, maybe the pastor said that it was wrong to abort babies or something).
Another DUmmie suggests that Weaver not only call the IRS on the church for alleged church- state violations, but also plant a McCain sign on the church grounds as a way of framing the church when it is investigated!
The DUmmies have no problem with breaking laws and slandering people and institutions, as long as doing so advances their twisted goals (Case in point: Their handling of Sarah Palin and her family).

GrumpyOldLady
09-23-2008, 02:51 PM
he is already outside a state of grace and unworthy to take communion until he receives absolution. The RCC is crystal clear on its positions involving abortion and homosexual behavior. These aren't negotiable points. .

AMEN.

Why the heck is he going to church in a place that he disagrees with anyways?
Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it??

ralph wiggum
09-23-2008, 02:57 PM
Wasn't DUmmy Bob Weaver the one who originally posted the fake e-bay listing with the "prop" baby?

LibraryLady
09-23-2008, 03:02 PM
Originally appearing on the DemocraticUnderground at around 1PM on September 4, by DU poster Bob Weaver, the thread was soon locked by DU moderators and the image scrubbed from the site. But not before a screen shot was taken...

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/dtharman/Obama/palin_trig_ebay.gif

Gingersnap
09-23-2008, 03:23 PM
DUmmie FUnnies posted a full version of the thread in question.
It was indeed a Catholic church, but Weaver is not a Catholic, he mentions that the only reason why he was even there was because his 89- year- old mother was physically incapable of driving to and from church (Which makes it all the more ridiculous that he should be criticizing the church and refusing to donate to it any more, considering that he wasn't a member and never donated to the church in the first place).

Well, that makes him even more of a loser than I originally thought. I have been a guest in a lot of churches and some of them have held views that lit up my personal radar screen but so what? I was a guest, not a member.

Having genuine differences with a church and leaving it inspires a certain degree of respect for having the courage of your convictions. Petulantly causing trouble for a church you don't even belong to out of political spite is just cowardly and morally repulsive.

Eilise
09-23-2008, 04:17 PM
coronavir7 (2 posts)
Mon Sep-22-08 11:17 PM
Response to Original message
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4055727#4064025)

147. not cool

That doesn't seem very appropriate. Why don't you just go to a different church? Don't Americans have a choice where to worship if they worship at all? That's what makes this country great!

This guy got TS'd for his polite but dissenting reply to the vile OP. They've always been heavy handed with the tombstones over there, but it seems like they're getting much worse lately.

GrumpyOldLady
09-23-2008, 05:53 PM
This guy got TS'd for his polite but dissenting reply to the vile OP. .

He got tombstoned for saying 'why not just go to a different church?"

holey-freak'n-cow!

Tolerant group, aren't they?

:rolleyes:

movie buff
09-23-2008, 06:26 PM
He got tombstoned for saying 'why not just go to a different church?"

holey-freak'n-cow!

Tolerant group, aren't they?

:rolleyes:

This election has really brought out the worst in the DUmmies (Which is REALLY saying something).

Gingersnap
09-23-2008, 09:09 PM
Call me un-shocked.

It's amusing that we have all kinds of atheists and agnostics on this board and the worst that happens to them is a gentle nudge to post in a more appropriate forum or in a new thread. In the DUmp, you get erased for an innocuous observation regarding religious "choice".

Junebug68
09-23-2008, 09:19 PM
This guy got TS'd for his polite but dissenting reply to the vile OP. They've always been heavy handed with the tombstones over there, but it seems like they're getting much worse lately.

Wow, fascism, thy name is DU.

YupItsMe
09-24-2008, 04:53 PM
This guy got TS'd for his polite but dissenting reply to the vile OP. They've always been heavy handed with the tombstones over there, but it seems like they're getting much worse lately.



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