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txradioguy
10-28-2012, 12:59 PM
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Retired Army Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer said Saturday he has sources saying President Barack Obama was in the room at the White House watching the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya unfold.

Two unarmed U.S. drones were dispatched to the consulate and recorded the final hours of the attack, which killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

“This was in the middle of the business day in Washington, so everybody at the White House, CIA, Pentagon, everybody was watching this go down,” Shaffer said on Fox News’ “Justice with Judge Jeanine.” “According to my sources, yes, [Obama] was one of those in the White House Situation Room in real-time watching this.”

Shaffer served as a senior operations officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency in Afghanistan in 2003 and wrote a book critical of the policies there. The U.S. government purchased the entire print run for $47,000 in an attempt at censorship just before its 2010 publication, claiming it contained classified material.

Shaffer said the question now is what precisely Obama did or didn’t do in the moments he saw the attack unfolding. The CIA reportedly made three urgent requests for military backup that were each denied.

“He, only he, could issue a directive to Secretary of Defense Panetta to do something. That’s the only place it could be done,” Shaffer said.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said last week the military did not intervene because they did not have enough information about what was happening on the ground.

Col. David Hunt, a Fox News military analyst, said the military could have had jets in the air within 20 minutes and forces on the ground within two hours.

“The issue is always political with the White House, but the secretary of defense gives the order, has to be approved by the White House, they wouldn’t pull the trigger, and it’s disgraceful,” Hunt said. “We’ve got guys dead.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/retired-lt-col-my-sources-say-obama-was-in-the-room-watching-benghazi-attack-happen/

Elspeth
10-28-2012, 03:25 PM
You'd have to be a psychopath with no empathy or conscience to watch this and to SIT ON YOUR HANDS for 7 hours, sending NO help.

FlaGator
10-28-2012, 03:30 PM
You'd have to be a psychopath with no empathy or conscience to watch this and to SIT ON YOUR HANDS for 7 hours, sending NO help.

I wonder what Obama's response would have been if one if his children had been in that building?

txradioguy
10-28-2012, 03:34 PM
You'd have to be a psychopath with no empathy or conscience to watch this and to SIT ON YOUR HANDS for 7 hours, sending NO help.

The most tragic part of it is that there were people ready to go...people who train for this all the time...and they were told no...go sit down.

Rockntractor
10-28-2012, 03:47 PM
You'd have to be a psychopath with no empathy or conscience to watch this and to SIT ON YOUR HANDS for 7 hours, sending NO help.

An awful lot of people are covering for his treasonous behavior and if the have a speck of conscience will have to live with knowing that.

SaintLouieWoman
10-28-2012, 03:53 PM
I wonder what Obama's response would have been if one if his children had been in that building?

He is so despicable, I'm not sure of the answer.

He sat and watched them die. Unbelievable that a CIC would do that, the "leader" of our country. I'm sitting here all pumped up, angry as hell, anyway as went out to lunch for a supposedly pleasant lunch with friends and some libtard interrupted our conversation. Will start a separate thread on it.

SarasotaRepub
10-28-2012, 04:28 PM
The most tragic part of it is that there were people ready to go...people who train for this all the time...and they were told no...go sit down.


Assuming this is true I would really not be surprised. oBAMA is all about oBAMA and anything that might interfere with him being elected again is possible. As I've said before, with cBAMA it's all me,me,me. He says it himself so it's no lie.

This story would show that Supreme Leader has NOT gotten the terrorists under control so better to blame it on a film. Now that that bullshit story has fallen apart he is on his "gathering the facts" tour. And the MSM is guilty here as sin, they are covering for this POS.

To any Libtards out there, ask yourself this...If this was Bu$h, what would be happening now??

Of course we might be wrong, maybe it was all about an anti-muzzie "film" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

AmPat
10-28-2012, 07:07 PM
Worst American traitor since Benedict Arnold. OBlowhard should be tried and executed if this can be proven.

Adam Wood
10-28-2012, 07:07 PM
The most tragic part of it is that there were people ready to go...people who train for this all the time...and they were told no...go sit down.I've only really started getting a really good grasp of the timeline of this (moment of attack through end of attack) in the last 24 hours or so. I'm just ... staggered.

If I'm understanding this right, from cobbling together the bits and pieces that we know, the e-mails, etc., and I'm just more and more appalled.



Honestly, TX, I don't know how you can have any faith in your Commander in Chief any more. I hate to think about how this must make you and all the other military folks feel, knowing that, KNOWING that your CinC will just abandon you and watch you get killed on TV while you're begging for help to save American lives, and the assets are on the scene, ready to be deployed to save American lives, even if it's not your own. The sheer futility that those two SEALs must have felt, knowing themselves that the assets were there to put a stop to the bad guys in a matter of seconds, but they weren't deployed while these guys fought on for hours, is almost more than I can bear to imagine.

:blue:

How the fuck did we get here?

AmPat
10-28-2012, 07:35 PM
I've only really started getting a really good grasp of the timeline of this (moment of attack through end of attack) in the last 24 hours or so. I'm just ... staggered.

If I'm understanding this right, from cobbling together the bits and pieces that we know, the e-mails, etc., and I'm just more and more appalled.



Honestly, TX, I don't know how you can have any faith in your Commander in Chief any more. I hate to think about how this must make you and all the other military folks feel, knowing that, KNOWING that your CinC will just abandon you and watch you get killed on TV while you're begging for help to save American lives, and the assets are on the scene, ready to be deployed to save American lives, even if it's not your own. The sheer futility that those two SEALs must have felt, knowing themselves that the assets were there to put a stop to the bad guys in a matter of seconds, but they weren't deployed while these guys fought on for hours, is almost more than I can bear to imagine.

:blue:

How the fuck did we get here?Simple. We elected Dopey-Changey, a muslim sympathizing communist racist. We elected him for no better reasons than he was BLACK, thereby salving the Great White Guilt, and because a bunch of juvenile idiots thought he was "cool." Now we have the greatest incompetent fool occupying the White House and an even bigger, although a different kind of fool a heart beat away.

It's time for a real adult to be in charge and dismiss the garbage back to the sewers of $hi*cago.

SarasotaRepub
10-28-2012, 07:44 PM
Simple. We elected Dopey-Changey, a muslim sympathizing communist racist. We elected him for no better reasons than he was BLACK, thereby salving the Great White Guilt, and because a bunch of juvenile idiots thought he was "cool." Now we have the greatest incompetent fool occupying the White House and an even bigger, although a different kind of fool a heart beat away.

It's time for a real adult to be in charge and dismiss the garbage back to the sewers of $hi*cago.


Damn right.

txradioguy
10-29-2012, 04:41 AM
I've only really started getting a really good grasp of the timeline of this (moment of attack through end of attack) in the last 24 hours or so. I'm just ... staggered.

If I'm understanding this right, from cobbling together the bits and pieces that we know, the e-mails, etc., and I'm just more and more appalled.

I posted a pretty complete timeline here:

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?52755-The-Behghazi-Lie-A-Timeline-of-Events&p=534345#post534345




Honestly, TX, I don't know how you can have any faith in your Commander in Chief any more. I hate to think about how this must make you and all the other military folks feel, knowing that, KNOWING that your CinC will just abandon you and watch you get killed on TV while you're begging for help to save American lives, and the assets are on the scene, ready to be deployed to save American lives, even if it's not your own. The sheer futility that those two SEALs must have felt, knowing themselves that the assets were there to put a stop to the bad guys in a matter of seconds, but they weren't deployed while these guys fought on for hours, is almost more than I can bear to imagine.

Now I'm speaking only for myself here with my own personal belief when I say this...but at times like this...like I've said before...I do this for something more than who happens to be warming the seat in the WH at any given time. A lot of people will vote with their feet if Obama gets elected again...they'd rather get out than serve under this President...and that's there choice and frankly I don't blame them..if you can't trust the man who you swore an oath to "obey the orders of...So help me God."...to have your back and do everything he can in his power to give you the resources you need to come out of a bad situation alive...then who can you trust?

I have faith in my immediate leadership and the soldiers I work with...at times like this...that's enough to keep me going.

What I do and what most soldiers will do is concentrate on the 50 meter target...the mission that is right in front of me. That's not to say they won't keep what happened in Libya in the back of their mind...but we've got a daily mission to take care of...we've got soldiers to train, lead and teach.

Also in times like this..you do this job for the guy to your left and right. Just like you do in combat.

Those former SEALS did what any trained soldier would do in a situation like that...they could have no more sat there and done nothing than you or I could have willing stopped breathing. They knew what orders were being sent from D.C. and probably why...and they went anyway. And had we gotten the help there that was on standby...they'd have lived to tell the tale.










:blue:

How the fuck did we get here?

The simple answer is that people voted for the guy.

Adam Wood
10-29-2012, 09:54 AM
I posted a pretty complete timeline here:

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?52755-The-Behghazi-Lie-A-Timeline-of-Events&p=534345#post534345Yeah, that's a good one that I saw earlier. I meant the timeline of the attack itself, with what we're finding out now.

What I thought happened with previous information:

Terrorists break through gate, the ambassador was tucked away in a "safe room," other consulate employees hunker down somewhere until the SEALs get them out and over to the annex, terrorists follow them to the annex, and the SEALs get killed fighting them off. Everyone else hunkers down for eight hours until the cavalry arrives at dawn.

Now we know that what happened was very, very different indeed, and it changes everything.



Now I'm speaking only for myself here with my own personal belief when I say this...but at times like this...like I've said before...I do this for something more than who happens to be warming the seat in the WH at any given time. A lot of people will vote with their feet if Obama gets elected again...they'd rather get out than serve under this President...and that's there choice and frankly I don't blame them..if you can't trust the man who you swore an oath to "obey the orders of...So help me God."...to have your back and do everything he can in his power to give you the resources you need to come out of a bad situation alive...then who can you trust?

I have faith in my immediate leadership and the soldiers I work with...at times like this...that's enough to keep me going.

What I do and what most soldiers will do is concentrate on the 50 meter target...the mission that is right in front of me. That's not to say they won't keep what happened in Libya in the back of their mind...but we've got a daily mission to take care of...we've got soldiers to train, lead and teach.

Also in times like this..you do this job for the guy to your left and right. Just like you do in combat.

Those former SEALS did what any trained soldier would do in a situation like that...they could have no more sat there and done nothing than you or I could have willing stopped breathing. They knew what orders were being sent from D.C. and probably why...and they went anyway. And had we gotten the help there that was on standby...they'd have lived to tell the tale.Well, I sure as hell don't envy the position this puts you in, but I understand that you're a professional who has a job to do no matter the circumstances.

::best civvie salute::

You're a bigger man than I.

txradioguy
10-29-2012, 10:38 AM
Well, I sure as hell don't envy the position this puts you in, but I understand that you're a professional who has a job to do no matter the circumstances.

::best civvie salute::

It puts the entire military in a bad position. And it furthers solidifies the risk aversion factored into every decision made by ledership in future operations.

To accept that soldiers were knowingly and willingly left on the battlefield by our CINC is something few of us can imagine...much less accept. It's breaking a trust between soldiers and leadership that dates IMO back to Washington.

I didn't/don't want to accept it either quite frankly. It hurts my head when I try to.

If it's ever proven beyond a doubt that this Administration knew and did nothing...and told others to do nothing...the rift it would create between the military and our civilian leadership...and to a certain extent senior uniformed leadership...would be almost irrepairable.




You're a bigger man than I.

Kind words sir...I hope some day to live up to your high praise.

AmPat
10-29-2012, 11:12 PM
Yeah, that's a good one that I saw earlier. I meant the timeline of the attack itself, with what we're finding out now.

What I thought happened with previous information:

Terrorists break through gate, the ambassador was tucked away in a "safe room," other consulate employees hunker down somewhere until the SEALs get them out and over to the annex, terrorists follow them to the annex, and the SEALs get killed fighting them off. Everyone else hunkers down for eight hours until the cavalry arrives at dawn.

Now we know that what happened was very, very different indeed, and it changes everything.


Well, I sure as hell don't envy the position this puts you in, but I understand that you're a professional who has a job to do no matter the circumstances.

::best civvie salute::

You're a bigger man than I.
Well I am now retired and I don't mind voicing my opinion of the POC occupying the CIC position. He is at best an incompetent fool. At worst, an Anti-American muslim sympathizer. This "man," Obozo the Fool, is lower than excrement in my eyes. I share this on behalf of my brothers-in-arms still serving and therefore compelled to refrain from such comments.

Rockntractor
10-29-2012, 11:23 PM
10 If you falter in a time of trouble,
how small is your strength!
11 Rescue those being led away to death;
hold back those staggering toward slaughter.
12 If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,”
does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who guards your life know it?
Will he not repay everyone according to what they have done? Proverbs 24:10-12

SaintLouieWoman
10-30-2012, 11:19 AM
Well I am now retired and I don't mind voicing my opinion of the POC occupying the CIC position. He is at best an incompetent fool. At worst, an Anti-American muslim sympathizer. This "man," Obozo the Fool, is lower than excrement in my eyes. I share this on behalf of my brothers-in-arms still serving and therefore compelled to refrain from such comments.

Thank you for your comments. Sadly I don't give him the benefit of the doubt as being an incompetent fool. Incompetent he might be, a fool he might be, but it's done with what I think is a great deal of malice of forethought.

Thank you for your service, and I'm sure that you're glad that you no longer have to salute that person. During Clinton's terms, I talked to many officers who had turned to a civilian job, as they said that they no longer in good faith could salute Bubba as their commander in chief. Too many good men resigned because of him. At least the economy was in good enough shape that they could get a decent job in civilian life. The incompetent in the White House now has denied that to many leaving the military (and to civilians, too).

AmPat
10-31-2012, 07:49 PM
Thank you for your comments. Sadly I don't give him the benefit of the doubt as being an incompetent fool. Incompetent he might be, a fool he might be, but it's done with what I think is a great deal of malice of forethought.

Thank you for your service, and I'm sure that you're glad that you no longer have to salute that person. During Clinton's terms, I talked to many officers who had turned to a civilian job, as they said that they no longer in good faith could salute Bubba as their commander in chief. Too many good men resigned because of him. At least the economy was in good enough shape that they could get a decent job in civilian life. The incompetent in the White House now has denied that to many leaving the military (and to civilians, too).Thank you kind lady.

JB
10-31-2012, 08:04 PM
Today during a Sandy photo op:


This is a tough time for a lot of people; millions of folks all across the Eastern Seaboard, but America's tougher. And we're tougher because we pull together, we leave nobody behind, we make sure we respond as a nation and remind ourselves that whenever an American is in need, all of us stand together to make sure we're providing the help that's necessary.This clownshoes has no shame. None. What a disgusting piece of crap this guy is.

I left out the uhs and ums or it would have been unreadable.

SaintLouieWoman
10-31-2012, 09:42 PM
Today during a Sandy photo op:

This clownshoes has no shame. None. What a disgusting piece of crap this guy is.

I left out the uhs and ums or it would have been unreadable.

You echo my thoughts entirely. Obama has no shame nor sense of honor. He's a disgrace and don't feel too kindly to Gov Christie right now. Never thought I'd admire Bloomberg more. At least he told Obama to keep out of New York.

MountainMan
10-31-2012, 11:15 PM
I wonder what Obama's response would have been if one if his children had been in that building?

Well, if Obama had a son he might just look like one of those terrorists.....

AmPat
11-01-2012, 11:22 PM
You echo my thoughts entirely. Obama has no shame nor sense of honor. He's a disgrace and don't feel too kindly to Gov Christie right now. Never thought I'd admire Bloomberg more. At least he told Obama to keep out of New York.
Apparently the Chief Jackass felt that he was "needed" at a fundraiser in Boulder tonight more than his required presence in NJ.

AmPat
11-01-2012, 11:26 PM
Well, if Obama had a son he might just look like one of those terrorists.....
Have we ascertained that Obozo has any children of his own? We know so little about him other than that he is a pathological liar. Dare we assume those are his biological children?

SaintLouieWoman
11-01-2012, 11:27 PM
Apparently the Chief Jackass felt that he was "needed" at a fundraiser in Boulder tonight more than his required presence in NJ.

He's probably doing them a favor by not being there. He's really not useful except for campaigning and trying to act "cool". And as always, it's all about him.

AmPat
11-01-2012, 11:38 PM
He's probably doing them a favor by not being there. He's really not useful except for campaigning and trying to act "cool". And as always, it's all about him.
He's truly amazing. I mean, he swept in and rescued the millions of victims from drowning, re-lit the lights, and restored all the infrastructure and commerce in a couple of days. Now that the eastern seaboard is safe and back to normal, he jets off to NJ to scrape together some much needed coin for his reelection efforts. Too bad GWB didn't have those same powers.

Elspeth
11-01-2012, 11:48 PM
He's truly amazing. I mean, he swept in and rescued the millions of victims from drowning, re-lit the lights, and restored all the infrastructure and commerce in a couple of days. Now that the eastern seaboard is safe and back to normal, he jets off to NJ to scrape together some much needed coin for his reelection efforts. Too bad GWB didn't have those same powers.

And he did that with only 6 cans of tuna fish! (http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?53117-Disaster-Preparadness)