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MountainMan
11-07-2012, 02:07 AM
1. To never help a liberal unless they are a family member. As an example, if you are wearing an Obama/Biden shirt and you are on fire, I won't even piss on you to help put out the fire.
2. I will never again donate money to a large charity again. That means when the American Red Cross calls because they need money to help cloth and feed a liberal in the northeast because they got hit with a hurricane, I will tell them to contact FEMA because that is what they voted for tonight. They want help from me? Fuck you. When I donate money it will go to certified conservative charities.
3. I will not ever support a small business man or woman who supports either democrats or liberal causes. Sure boycotting Microsoft or Levi Strauss is not worth the time but boycotting leftwing small businesses can make a difference. If a small business owner loses local customers because they donate or support democrats, maybe it will teach them to not support that shit anymore. Campaign donations are public records...use them to punish liberals.
4. I will double my efforts to make sure I am debt free because when inflation hits, it is going to hurt.
5. I am seriously going to start hiding my money and I AM going to start working under the table more. Liberals tonight voted to increase all taxes on all the countries makers. I refuse to give the takers anymore than what I can get away with.


What ARE YOU going to do?

Novaheart
11-07-2012, 02:36 AM
4. I will double my efforts to make sure I am debt free because when inflation hits, it is going to hurt.

I could be wrong on this one, but it's my understanding that this is not a good strategy. It's better to buy stuff now and pay it off over time with increasingly worthless money. Of course, I think this presumes a constant which is not guaranteed.

Come January, I will owe a grand total of $4000 which means I should be debt free shortly thereafter. I am looking forward to that, seriously. It will be the first time I have been totally debt free since 1984. Of course, this falls into the category of best laid plans. With a kid about to graduate high school, I could be looking at unexpected expenses or seriously compelling, "Uncle Nova can I have.......?" requests. To date, "No" isn't my strong point when it comes to my girls.

NJCardFan
11-07-2012, 03:06 AM
1. To never help a liberal unless they are a family member. As an example, if you are wearing an Obama/Biden shirt and you are on fire, I won't even piss on you to help put out the fire.
2. I will never again donate money to a large charity again. That means when the American Red Cross calls because they need money to help cloth and feed a liberal in the northeast because they got hit with a hurricane, I will tell them to contact FEMA because that is what they voted for tonight. They want help from me? Fuck you. When I donate money it will go to certified conservative charities.
3. I will not ever support a small business man or woman who supports either democrats or liberal causes. Sure boycotting Microsoft or Levi Strauss is not worth the time but boycotting leftwing small businesses can make a difference. If a small business owner loses local customers because they donate or support democrats, maybe it will teach them to not support that shit anymore. Campaign donations are public records...use them to punish liberals.
4. I will double my efforts to make sure I am debt free because when inflation hits, it is going to hurt.
5. I am seriously going to start hiding my money and I AM going to start working under the table more. Liberals tonight voted to increase all taxes on all the countries makers. I refuse to give the takers anymore than what I can get away with.


What ARE YOU going to do?
Now you're sounding like those whiners in 2000.

Veritas Aequitas
11-07-2012, 04:26 AM
I could be wrong on this one, but it's my understanding that this is not a good strategy. It's better to buy stuff now and pay it off over time with increasingly worthless money. Of course, I think this presumes a constant which is not guaranteed.

Come January, I will owe a grand total of $4000 which means I should be debt free shortly thereafter. I am looking forward to that, seriously. It will be the first time I have been totally debt free since 1984. Of course, this falls into the category of best laid plans. With a kid about to graduate high school, I could be looking at unexpected expenses or seriously compelling, "Uncle Nova can I have.......?" requests. To date, "No" isn't my strong point when it comes to my girls.


Between my car and my student loans I owe about 45k, so maybe Obamanomics won't be so bad for me after all. I can get a part-time job at Burger King on the weekends and pay it off in a summer.

MountainMan
11-07-2012, 10:22 AM
Now you're sounding like those whiners in 2000. Nope, just a realist. I will never give anymore of my money to a charity that doesn't demand something in return. I will give to the Salvation Army because they are a christian charity and when I give locally, for the most part, the money stays local. However, I will never again look past party affiliation. With the exception for family members, if you are a liberal, don't ask me for help. Call someone else on your Obama phone.

linda22003
11-07-2012, 10:35 AM
With the exception for family members, if you are a liberal, don't ask me for help. Call someone else on your Obama phone.

Has that happened much up to now?

namvet
11-07-2012, 10:46 AM
im making arrangements to leave the country

Adam Wood
11-07-2012, 11:06 AM
What ARE YOU going to do?Not act like a fucking DUmmie and politicize interpersonal relationships, that's what.


Good grief, how stupid. I'm not happy with the election results, but that hardly means that I somehow un-became an American overnight. If there's someone out there who needs my help, I'm not going to ask them what their political leanings are before I help them. That's just ridiculous.

Molon Labe
11-07-2012, 11:19 AM
Not act like a fucking DUmmie and politicize interpersonal relationships, that's what.


Good grief, how stupid. I'm not happy with the election results, but that hardly means that I somehow un-became an American overnight. If there's someone out there who needs my help, I'm not going to ask them what their political leanings are before I help them. That's just ridiculous.

This^

Mountain man is one of those that confuses "Americans" with the "Federal Government" I'm afraid.
What makes this country great is Private individuals taking care of our social problems. Not the F'n government. Look at how great th government is handling the Hurricane in the NE. Pathetic.

Quit being a pus and pull up your bootstraps and get to work. The time for changing things the way you wish doesn't start in 2014 or 2016. It' STARTS NOW!

People who believe they can just sit on their ass at home watching American Idol and vote every couple years doesn't cut it.
When was the last time you went to your GOP meeting? When did you actually go try to persuade someone there to stick to conservative principles?

Hear me now and believe me later, if you don't do it, someone else is going to and they are starting today.

Novaheart
11-07-2012, 11:29 AM
Not act like a fucking DUmmie and politicize interpersonal relationships, that's what.


Good grief, how stupid. I'm not happy with the election results, but that hardly means that I somehow un-became an American overnight. If there's someone out there who needs my help, I'm not going to ask them what their political leanings are before I help them. That's just ridiculous.

I think that everyone needs to maintain perspective. I really don't think that most of our posters here and elsewhere would really like for Paul Ryan to get his way and let Ayn Rand design our future. We need a certain amount of gridlock in this country, regardless of who controls two out of three.

noonwitch
11-07-2012, 11:32 AM
Nope, just a realist. I will never give anymore of my money to a charity that doesn't demand something in return. I will give to the Salvation Army because they are a christian charity and when I give locally, for the most part, the money stays local. However, I will never again look past party affiliation. With the exception for family members, if you are a liberal, don't ask me for help. Call someone else on your Obama phone.


If you like seeing the results of your charitable donations, the Salvation Army is the way to go. I'm a liberal, but I'm honest. I see the good the SA does in Detroit on a daily basis-by their own terms, without government money. They provide food to the poor and they don't give up on drug addicts, unlike a lot of secular programs.

If you were in Michigan, I'd also suggest donating to Grace Centers of Hope in Pontiac, another faith-based program to help the homeless, the hungry and the addicted. They also take no government money, so they create their own rules and policies.

Molon Labe
11-07-2012, 11:43 AM
I think that everyone needs to maintain perspective. I really don't think that most of our posters here and elsewhere would really like for Paul Ryan to get his way and let Ayn Rand design our future. We need a certain amount of gridlock in this country, regardless of who controls two out of three.

Paul Ryan is no philosophical Randian. You're being duped. There are very few of those who actually exist in public office.
Ayn Rand would have never bailed out anyone.

Molon Labe
11-07-2012, 11:45 AM
If you like seeing the results of your charitable donations, the Salvation Army is the way to go. I'm a liberal, but I'm honest. I see the good the SA does in Detroit on a daily basis-by their own terms, without government money. They provide food to the poor and they don't give up on drug addicts, unlike a lot of secular programs.

If you were in Michigan, I'd also suggest donating to Grace Centers of Hope in Pontiac, another faith-based program to help the homeless, the hungry and the addicted. .

yes. I'm not speaking specifically of the Salvation Army per se..... but you have show the left that public charity is not greater than the private ones. That's the way you force socialism to it's knees, by showing how inferior it is to taking care of social issues.

NJCardFan
11-07-2012, 03:19 PM
When did you actually go try to persuade someone there to stick to conservative principles?



Every day. I live in NJ. A state that is turning dark blue. I am also a state employee so I work with a shitload of liberals and a whole lot of my fellow CO's are lousy with the entitlement mentality. I stopped trying to convince this bunch a while ago. As was said by Rock in another thread, I'd have a better chance trying to convince my dogs except the difference is that eventually my dogs will understand. When you have a bunch of people who flat out said that the only reason they support Obama is because he's black, no amount of conservative preaching is going to work.

Molon Labe
11-07-2012, 03:52 PM
Every day. I live in NJ. A state that is turning dark blue. I am also a state employee so I work with a shitload of liberals and a whole lot of my fellow CO's are lousy with the entitlement mentality. I stopped trying to convince this bunch a while ago. As was said by Rock in another thread, I'd have a better chance trying to convince my dogs except the difference is that eventually my dogs will understand. When you have a bunch of people who flat out said that the only reason they support Obama is because he's black, no amount of conservative preaching is going to work.

There has to be a complete paradigm shift. There are 90 million eligible people who don't vote. Some are registered others not. The message has to be brought to those people. They are either apathetic to the politcal process, don't care, or believe that the system is rigged. Somehow you have to reach those persons. You are spinning your wheels if you are trying to convince the 98 million who did cast ballots yesterday. Many of them are hopeless. Already made up their mind and vote left or right based on the product their pushing. And yes many because of the color of someone's skin.

Rockntractor
11-07-2012, 04:27 PM
. That's the way you force socialism to it's knees, by showing how inferior it is to taking care of social issues.

Give me a list of countries where socialism has been thrown off in this manner, what I have seen in my life is socialism turn to communism gain complete control and rule with tyranny. Sometimes is fought off and the people freed at the point of a gun or pushed out of existence by the once great US through our once more stable economics.
What country will save us, we were the only game in town, the last hope of many an oppressed people.
Who will slow the tyrants now Molon?

Zeus
11-07-2012, 05:03 PM
I could be wrong on this one, but it's my understanding that this is not a good strategy. It's better to buy stuff now and pay it off over time with increasingly worthless money. Of course, I think this presumes a constant which is not guaranteed.

Come January, I will owe a grand total of $4000 which means I should be debt free shortly thereafter. I am looking forward to that, seriously. It will be the first time I have been totally debt free since 1984. Of course, this falls into the category of best laid plans. With a kid about to graduate high school, I could be looking at unexpected expenses or seriously compelling, "Uncle Nova can I have.......?" requests. To date, "No" isn't my strong point when it comes to my girls.

It depends.

let's say you have $20,000 to effect a cash purchase and also the monthly means to support financing. Let's suppose you could invest that $20,000 at an annual ROI of 10% and attain financing for your purchase at 7%. The smart money would finance. now on the other hand if the ROI on the investment was 5% and the finance option still 7% then cash out. naturally in the second option other variables to consider are appreciating asset vs depreciating asset etc.

When I was 30 yrs old I was over a half million dollars in debt with little to no assets to back that debt. When I was 45 I was comfortable enough to scale back into essentially semi-retirement. I got bored, some fast talking people who knew the right buttons to push sucked me back in and today 7 years later my networth has a little over doubled. Up until 6 yrs ago I did have a wife with a reasonable income to help things along.

I say this not to brag but as evidence that the American dream is still alive for now for those that are willing to put forth the effort and sacrifice neccesary. I wasn't born rich & I am no genius. I just know you can make things happen for you or let things happen for/to you.

Wibbins
11-07-2012, 11:35 PM
Sit down, shut up, and watch the damn video.
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/citizens/the_common_sense_resistan.php

Janice
11-08-2012, 01:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s02SypCcYIc

This is a little easier ... :cool:

Wibbins
11-08-2012, 10:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s02SypCcYIc

This is a little easier ... :cool:

I was on my phone at work and youtube goes to m.youtube XD

Zeus
11-08-2012, 06:44 PM
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=4195;type=avatar

Adam Wood
11-08-2012, 08:33 PM
Well, I for one am going to throw the Thanksgiving tofurkey through the plate glass window in the dining room.

JB
11-08-2012, 08:41 PM
Well, I for one am going to throw the Thanksgiving tofurkey through the plate glass window in the dining room.An oldie but goodie. That's why we need Rs to be president. The lunacy goes up threefold over there when it's all R all the time.

I hope Barry is impeached in the next year, the 'sploding is worth it.

Molon Labe
11-09-2012, 05:09 PM
Give me a list of countries where socialism has been thrown off in this manner, what I have seen in my life is socialism turn to communism gain complete control and rule with tyranny. Sometimes is fought off and the people freed at the point of a gun or pushed out of existence by the once great US through our once more stable economics.
What country will save us, we were the only game in town, the last hope of many an oppressed people.
Who will slow the tyrants now Molon?

Well as of today, it sure doesn't sound like it's going to the be the GOP. Are you listening to what is being said today by the pointy heads? It's gotten worse.

They are saying that the Coservative message was rejected again. They are saying the party is too white, old, and male to beat Liberals, or that the nation is turning socialist and so the message of “hard work” is going to lose elections.

It's horsecrap, cause if they reject this message they've rejected the philosophy and then what are they? Another wing of the Democratic party that's what.

Rockntractor
11-09-2012, 05:20 PM
Well as of today, it sure doesn't sound like it's going to the be the GOP. Are you listening to what is being said today by the pointy heads? It's gotten worse.

They are saying that the Coservative message was rejected again. They are saying the party is too white, old, and male to beat Liberals, or that the nation is turning socialist and so the message of “hard work” is going to lose elections.

It's horsecrap, cause if they reject this message they've rejected the philosophy and then what are they? Another wing of the Democratic party that's what.

You are 100% correct on this.
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?53292-I-Told-You-quot-Moderates-quot-Can-t-Win!&p=537731&viewfull=1#post537731

Zeus
11-09-2012, 06:46 PM
If you like seeing the results of your charitable donations, the Salvation Army is the way to go. I'm a liberal, but I'm honest. I see the good the SA does in Detroit on a daily basis-by their own terms, without government money. They provide food to the poor and they don't give up on drug addicts, unlike a lot of secular programs.

If you were in Michigan, I'd also suggest donating to Grace Centers of Hope in Pontiac, another faith-based program to help the homeless, the hungry and the addicted. They also take no government money, so they create their own rules and policies.

The only Salvation Army program that does not seem to receive government funding is the rehabilitation program. Many SA offices rely on their thrift store revenue to fund that particular program.

I don't think there is a national Charity that doesn't receive a govt subsidy in one form or fashion.