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Rockntractor
11-11-2012, 04:37 PM
I don't know how many or who stores back an extra food supply but I stumbled onto the Mormon store while looking for canned flour, there is absolutely no one that can approach their price on canned long life staples like flour, whole wheat flour, rice, oatmeal dried pinto beans all packaged for long life in # 10 cans sold in cases of 6 for 28.00 -35.00 per case depending on product, their shipping is free and you need not be a church member you just sign up as a store member or use guest checkout.
http://store.lds.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product3_715839595_10557_21003_-1__3074457345616897723

For peanut butter, Tuna and many other canned products I use Amazon, sign up for Amazon prime and you will save a bundle if you stick with Amazon prime Items.

djones520
11-11-2012, 04:45 PM
Most of our stock is WIC supplied. They have us by a jar of peanut butter every two weeks, we also get various other foods that just end up piling up because we don't eat them as fast as they provide them.

Rockntractor
11-11-2012, 04:55 PM
Most of our stock is WIC supplied. They have us by a jar of peanut butter every two weeks, we also get various other foods that just end up piling up because we don't eat them as fast as they provide them.

I have friends who get government food, we have a lot of native Americans here and I get a lot of their surplus.

Starbuck
11-11-2012, 06:49 PM
We went with a prepackaged supply house a year or so back. We keep an unopened container of 56 meals in the hall closet. Cost about $100. Came in a big plastic container.

My sister sneered mockingly, when I told her what I had done, but caught herself and tried to hide the sneer. Nice try, Sis. But I saw it.:single_eye:
http://wisefoodstorage.com/gourmet-emergency-grab-and-go-food-kits.html
We keep it for ice storms, tornadoes and the like where we can't get out and Kroger is cleaned out anyway.

Rockntractor
11-11-2012, 06:54 PM
We went with a prepackaged supply house a year or so back. We keep an unopened container of 56 meals in the hall closet. Cost about $100. Came in a big plastic container.

My sister sneered mockingly, when I told her what I had done, but caught herself and tried to hide the sneer. Nice try, Sis. But I saw it.:single_eye:

I bet if you asked a lot of people in New York and New Jersey they wouldn't sneer.
I have kept an emergency supply of food since I left home many years ago, at minimum 6 months. it has helped me many a time when times were hard and there were surprise layoffs, preparedness is nothing to mock, it is responsibility.

Molon Labe
11-11-2012, 07:26 PM
That's a great site Rock. Mormon site is one of the better places to buys stuff and get ideas. I don't have time to do it tonight, but I'll try to find some other links I have saved this kind of stuff.

I just keep a bunch a couple months supply of MREs I collected from the military over the years.

Rockntractor
11-11-2012, 07:32 PM
That's a great site Rock. Mormon site is one of the better places to buys stuff and get ideas. I don't have time to do it tonight, but I'll try to find some other links I have saved this kind of stuff.

I just keep a bunch a couple months supply of MREs I collected from the military over the years.

This is my site for seasonings and dried fruits.
http://www.bulkfoods.com/search_results.asp?txtsearchParamCat=14&txtsearchParamType=ALL&txtsearchParamMan=ALL&txtsearchParamVen=ALL&txtFromSearch=fromSearch&txtsearchParamTxt=1701

SaintLouieWoman
11-11-2012, 08:32 PM
After reading the thread in our DUmmie forum about the 6 cans of tuna, I started looking a little further into our emergency supplies. If we were hit with a disaster, we don't have nearly enough. Thanks for the links, going to check into getting more food. We have a generator, but it obviously won't do any good if we run out of gas. SR had an electrician install an electrical control/switch panel that routes the power from the portable generator to different areas of the house. It's not enough to keep on the AC, but will do some lights and overhead fans, in addition to the refrigerator. If that keeps going, we'd have enough food from the freezer to last us.

We have a gas grill and two propane tanks, so should be able to cook outside. But in terms of canned goods, we're clearly deficient.

SR had purchased those MRE's, but think we left them in a closet underneath the stairs in the basement when we moved. We sold the house in only 4 days and had to get out quickly, so I'm afraid too many things were left.

Molon Labe
11-11-2012, 09:59 PM
This is my site for seasonings and dried fruits.
http://www.bulkfoods.com/search_results.asp?txtsearchParamCat=14&txtsearchParamType=ALL&txtsearchParamMan=ALL&txtsearchParamVen=ALL&txtFromSearch=fromSearch&txtsearchParamTxt=1701

Ok you got me to looking. I've had these save for some time.

http://www.rainydayfoods.com/

http://www.efoodsdirect.com/

http://www.non-hybrid-seeds.com/


As far as prices go, I'm not really not the one to ask. Some are going to be better deals than others, but I guess people will have to compare.

Rockntractor
11-11-2012, 10:12 PM
Ok you got me to looking. I've had these save for some time.

http://www.rainydayfoods.com/

http://www.efoodsdirect.com/

http://www.non-hybrid-seeds.com/


As far as prices go, I'm not really not the one to ask. Some are going to be better deals than others, but I guess people will have to compare.

We have dried potatoes from raineydayfoods and they are real good, one thing I'll mention when buying dried hash browns, make sure you get them in #10 can, the ends of the dried hash browns will poke holes in the Mylar bags. Dried hash browns are as good as frozen or even fresh, better I think, we eat them on a weekly basis.
potato dices are good but they rehydrate slowly, slices are better.

Rockntractor
11-11-2012, 10:55 PM
Rainy day food is owned by Walton feed and that is where my Montana hard white wheat comes from, I buy it from a local Seventh day adventist group that has a provision truck come around every 4 months to keep the shipping cost down low.

Novaheart
11-11-2012, 11:47 PM
I bet if you asked a lot of people in New York and New Jersey they wouldn't sneer.
I have kept an emergency supply of food since I left home many years ago, at minimum 6 months. it has helped me many a time when times were hard and there were surprise layoffs, preparedness is nothing to mock, it is responsibility.

Mormon doctrine notwithstanding, I would say that from personal observation that oriental people are probably the best supplied of the population who is not what Glenn Beck calls a "prepper". They buy rice in 20 pound bags and boxes and boxes of dried noodles, dried mushrooms, and lots of other stuff that keeps.

I only keep rice, eggs, frozen vegetables, some tomatoes, popping corn, and some frozen fish in my house, but Mom and I could get by for a month or two from the stuff she has on hand. It wouldn't be a great month, but I'll bet that cake batter and creamed corn fritters isn't half bad.

Rockntractor
11-12-2012, 12:03 AM
Mormon doctrine notwithstanding, I would say that from personal observation that oriental people are probably the best supplied of the population who is not what Glenn Beck calls a "prepper". They buy rice in 20 pound bags and boxes and boxes of dried noodles, dried mushrooms, and lots of other stuff that keeps.

I only keep rice, eggs, frozen vegetables, some tomatoes, popping corn, and some frozen fish in my house, but Mom and I could get by for a month or two from the stuff she has on hand. It wouldn't be a great month, but I'll bet that cake batter and creamed corn fritters isn't half bad.

Rice in a bag get's weevils if stored for any length of time, just like flour, that's the whole idea of the flour in the can. You also have to buy the rice in a can if you want to store it for longer periods and I have found that the Mormons have rice in cans at a better price than anyone else.
I wish they had some of the other products I store like dried fruit and such.

Starbuck
11-12-2012, 10:35 AM
Rice in a bag get's weevils if stored for any length of time, just like flour, that's the whole idea of the flour in the can. You also have to buy the rice in a can if you want to store it for longer periods and I have found that the Mormons have rice in cans at a better price than anyone else.
I wish they had some of the other products I store like dried fruit and such.
To store things like rice on board sailboats (which have little or no refrigeration) you put it in a glass container, and then place a little dry ice (carbon dioxide) on top. Let it sit for just a couple of minutes and when the dry ices is about 50% dissipated put the top on.
What happens is, the carbon dioxide displaces the atmosphere in the jar and kills all the baby bugs.

Dry ice can be used to arrest and prevent insect activity in closed containers of grains and grain products, as it displaces oxygen, but does not alter the taste or quality of such foods. For the same reason, it can prevent or retard food oils and fats from becoming rancid.

Molon Labe
11-12-2012, 08:30 PM
I think they have some pretty good freeze dried fruits here too.

http://beprepared.com/

Rockntractor
11-12-2012, 08:33 PM
To store things like rice on board sailboats (which have little or no refrigeration) you put it in a glass container, and then place a little dry ice (carbon dioxide) on top. Let it sit for just a couple of minutes and when the dry ices is about 50% dissipated put the top on.
What happens is, the carbon dioxide displaces the atmosphere in the jar and kills all the baby bugs.

That sounds like an excellent Idea, I'll try it on some stuff, I know they nitrogen purge the flour and rice before they can it.

Hawkgirl
11-12-2012, 09:31 PM
We have some real preppers on this board.

I still need to organize my pantry...Only then can I see what is really missing. I need to get more organized. Period.

Starbuck
11-12-2012, 10:00 PM
:biggrin-new:
Preppers are just plum insane.........................I think.
Anyway, I'm no prepper, and I don't think starvation and rioting is going to break out in our neighborhood. But it does pay to be prepared. There are plenty of people whose homes are intact in NY/NJ but they're having to beg for food, etc.

If the power goes out for a week (it did that, once) I do not want my family to go hungry. As it is now, we'll be warm and we'll have something to eat. And that feels good.

Maybe next year I'll get one of these:
http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/product-images/5837_wSwitch_500.jpg

Hawkgirl
11-12-2012, 11:28 PM
Nothing wrong with stocking up on non-perishables. I always stock up on toilet paper, paper towels, cleaning supplies etc.
I'm going to charge a lot for toilet paper too.

Hawkgirl
11-12-2012, 11:34 PM
Good info: http://nutrition.about.com/od/foodfun/a/emergency_stock.htm

Rockntractor
11-12-2012, 11:34 PM
Nothing wrong with stocking up on non-perishables. I always stock up on toilet paper, paper towels, cleaning supplies etc.
I'm going to charge a lot for toilet paper too.

You rotate your supplies and nothing ever goes to waste, food has never gotten cheaper, all through my life it has climbed and not always gradually either. Don't forget sauces spices and sugar. I keep several bags of Morton Tender Quick cure on hand in case power goes out, I also have twelve cases of canning jars in reserve at all times in case I need to can the meat in the freezer. I can't bear the thought of wasting anything, I never have and never will.

Hawkgirl
11-12-2012, 11:44 PM
You rotate your supplies and nothing ever goes to waste, food has never gotten cheaper, all through my life it has climbed and not always gradually either. Don't forget sauces spices and sugar. I keep several bags of Morton Tender Quick cure on hand in case power goes out, I also have twelve cases of canning jars in reserve at all times in case I need to can the meat in the freezer. I can't bear the thought of wasting anything, I never have and never will.

Well, you are right about food prices. High Inflation is going to rear it's ugly head very soon. I'm already starting to penny pinch because you just never know what's around the corner. Do creepy crawlies get into sugar bags? I haven't seen them packaged in cans. I think I'm also going to cut out my cleaning boy. It's an extra $140/month that I can save, and the calories burned up on house cleaning won't hurt.
I'm also going to watch my gas consumption and start doing errands closer to home. I don't want to sound like a pessimist, but I think rough times are ahead, and I'm not talking about natural disasters.

Rockntractor
11-12-2012, 11:53 PM
Well, you are right about food prices. High Inflation is going to rear it's ugly head very soon. I'm already starting to penny pinch because you just never know what's around the corner. Do creepy crawlies get into sugar bags? I haven't seen them packaged in cans. I think I'm also going to cut out my cleaning boy. It's an extra $140/month that I can save, and the calories burned up on house cleaning won't hurt.
I'm also going to watch my gas consumption and start doing errands closer to home. I don't want to sound like a pessimist, but I think rough times are ahead, and I'm not talking about natural disasters.

Sugar is one of the easiest to store, put sugar bags inside two gallon zip lock bags. You have to keep sugar sealed from humidity or it will turn into a brick but at least the weevils don't get it, the only bug I know that can eat it is ants but they are easy to keep out. The thing that makes weevils so bad with grain storage is that their eggs are already present in almost all grain products sitting dormant awaiting their chance. The canned products are nitrogen purged so there are no live eggs.

patriot45
11-13-2012, 12:13 AM
Ramen noodles, baked beans, sardines and Chef-boy-ardee!! I'm set!:biggrin-new:

Rockntractor
11-13-2012, 12:16 AM
Ramen noodles, baked beans, sardines and Chef-boy-ardee!! I'm set!:biggrin-new:

Actually pretty good items, stash some canned chicken and cream of chicken soup to mix with those Ramens.

Hawkgirl
11-13-2012, 11:23 AM
I picked up a couple cans of Progresso Chicarina soup (the only one I'll eat) and a couple of Chef Boyardee in honor of this thread.

My problem is that I don't like to eat processed food unless I have nothing in the frig. I also don't know if I can eat those products room temperature as I like my food piping hot. I do have a gas grill though.

Rockntractor
11-13-2012, 11:26 AM
I picked up a couple cans of Progresso Chicarina soup (the only one I'll eat) and a couple of Chef Boyardee in honor of this thread.

My problem is that I don't like to eat processed food unless I have nothing in the frig. I also don't know if I can eat those products room temperature as I like my food piping hot. I do have a gas grill though.
http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-Single-Burner-Propane-Stove/dp/B000P9GZSM/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1352820364&sr=8-18&keywords=propane+burners

Hawkgirl
11-13-2012, 11:33 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Texsport-Single-Burner-Propane-Stove/dp/B000P9GZSM/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1352820364&sr=8-18&keywords=propane+burners

Nice, can you store those little propane canisters in a garage? We had small propane grills for our boat years ago.

Rockntractor
11-13-2012, 11:42 AM
Nice, can you store those little propane canisters in a garage? We had small propane grills for our boat years ago.

They store just fine, you can also get an adapter and run these burners off the 20 pound bottles like you use on your grill.

Rockntractor
11-13-2012, 11:45 AM
On that same page as the burner they have an adapter to fill the small bottles from your gas grill bottle.

Rockntractor
11-13-2012, 11:51 AM
20 pound canister to gas burner or camp stove designed for disposable cylinders.

http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-High-Pressure-Propane-Hose-Adapter/dp/B0009PUQAK/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1352821736&sr=1-2&keywords=propane+adapter

Starbuck
11-13-2012, 03:12 PM
Yeah, if you've got any kind of gas grill you piece together a way to cook. I threw away an old barbeque grill a few years ago, but I saved the burner that was mounted on the side - the one they provide for frying fish or boiling corn.
Then I made a stand for it and have used it twice for frying egg rolls outside. That's what we would use for heating/boiling this and that in case of emergency.

SarasotaRepub
11-13-2012, 11:09 PM
We ordered a 7.0 cu. ft. Chest Freezer from Home Depot today and it was only $158. A Internet special.

Gonna load that freezer up with all kinds of good stuff! :scared: :biggrin-new:

Rockntractor
11-13-2012, 11:11 PM
We ordered a 7.0 cu. ft. Chest Freezer from Home Depot today and it was only $158. A Internet special.

Gonna load that freezer up with all kinds of good stuff! :scared: :biggrin-new:

I bet it ends up half full of fillets.

SarasotaRepub
11-14-2012, 08:54 AM
I bet it ends up half full of fillets.

You say that like it's a bad thing!!! Lots of chicken and fish with some beef. I think we
may also pick up one of those vacuum seal package kits.

Rockntractor
11-14-2012, 12:00 PM
You say that like it's a bad thing!!! Lots of chicken and fish with some beef. I think we
may also pick up one of those vacuum seal package kits.

The vacuum sealers work very well, I have the inexpensive bag type and a commercial type that uses a roll, the bag type gets the most use.

Rockntractor
11-17-2012, 12:45 AM
I got the order of flour today, neatly packed 6 cans to a case and received within a week.
I was a little worried that two guys with special underwear and a secret handshake would deliver it, But it was left in my package drop by the gate by FedEx, shipped all the way from salt Lake city Utah with free shipping. I have no complaints and will order more stuff from them.

Hawkgirl
11-17-2012, 01:37 AM
I got the order of flour today, neatly packed 6 cans to a case and received within a week.
I was a little worried that two guys with special underwear and a secret handshake would deliver it, But it was left in my package drop by the gate by FedEx, shipped all the way from salt Lake city Utah with free shipping. I have no complaints and will order more stuff from them.

What's the expiration date on the cans?

Rockntractor
11-17-2012, 01:44 AM
What's the expiration date on the cans?

It says shelf life of ten years on the cans.

Hawkgirl
11-17-2012, 01:48 AM
It says shelf life of ten years on the cans.


Holy crap! I was expecting a date ending in 2014.

Rockntractor
11-17-2012, 01:51 AM
Holy crap! I was expecting a date ending in 2014.

They are serious long term food storage experts. it is part of their doctrine.

Hawkgirl
11-17-2012, 01:57 AM
They are serious long term food storage experts. it is part of their doctrine.

Is the world ending next month for them too? I'm not being funny...do they believe the same thing the Inca's (or whatever indian, mexican tribe) believe) when world is going to end?

Rockntractor
11-17-2012, 02:05 AM
Is the world ending next month for them too? I'm not being funny...do they believe the same thing the Inca's (or whatever indian, mexican tribe) believe) when world is going to end?

No, they don't believe any of the apocalyptic Inca stuff. i think it relates more to the stores of grain Joseph had in Egypt. The Mormons also had a hard time of it on the trail when they moved out wast via wagon train. it is one part of their doctrine that is very sensible and if people would learn this kind of habit at a young age I think they would be much more likely to rely on themselves rather than have the attitude that someone else can support them. It is a mind set as well as a practice, responsibility.

SaintLouieWoman
11-17-2012, 09:53 PM
I bet it ends up half full of fillets.

More likely turkeys. They're having those big Thanksgiving sales on turkeys here. Both Pulix and Sweetbay have the frozen ones for 59 cents a pound. I plan to get at least 4 of them and dump them in the freezer. The freezer with the refrigerator doesn't have enough room for even 1 turkey. We have a side by side, not those new fancy 4 compartment ones,

Rockntractor
11-17-2012, 10:54 PM
More likely turkeys. They're having those big Thanksgiving sales on turkeys here. Both Pulix and Sweetbay have the frozen ones for 59 cents a pound. I plan to get at least 4 of them and dump them in the freezer. The freezer with the refrigerator doesn't have enough room for even 1 turkey. We have a side by side, not those new fancy 4 compartment ones,

I usually try to buy a few when they go on sale, I grind a couple for turkey burgers too.

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