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Elspeth
11-13-2012, 11:59 PM
So, do we buy this? (http://theclicker.today.com/_news/2012/11/13/15143720-elmo-puppeteers-accuser-recants-allegations-of-underage-sexual-relationship?lite#__utma=14933801.1780045227.13528 56624.1352856624.1352865235.2&__utmb=14933801.2.10.1352865235&__utmc=14933801&__utmx=-&__utmz=14933801.1352865235.2.2.utmcsr=tv.msnbc.com |utmccn=%28referral%29|utmcmd=referral|utmcct=/2012/11/13/marriage-equality-the-geographic-divide/&__utmv=14933801.|8=Earned%20By=msnbc|cover=1^12=La nding%20Content=Mixed=1^13=Landing%20Hostname=www. nbcnews.com=1^30=Visit%20Type%20to%20Content=Inter nal%20to%20Mixed=1&__utmk=174182818)

The man who said he was underage when he had a sexual relationship with "Sesame Street" puppeteer Kevin Clash has now recanted that claim, the law firm representing him said on Tuesday.

The Pennsylvania law firm Andreozzi & Associates issued a statement reading, "This office represented the 23-year-old man who was the subject of many media reports regarding Kevin Clash. He wants it to be known that his sexual relationship with Mr. Clash was an adult consensual relationship. He will have no further comment on the matter."

In a statement of his own, Clash, 52, the puppeteer and voice behind popular red Muppet Elmo, said, "I am relieved that this painful allegation has been put to rest. I will not discuss it further."

There was no word Tuesday afternoon on whether Clash would cancel the leave of absence he has taken from "Sesame Street" since news of the relationship surfaced.

Sesame Workshop said in a statement: "We are pleased that this matter has been brought to a close, and we are happy that Kevin can move on from this unfortunate episode."

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On Monday, Sesame Workshop issued a statement saying that the man had contacted them in June saying he and Clash began a relationship seven years ago, when the unidentified man was 16.

"We took the allegation very seriously and took immediate action," that statement read. "We met with the accuser twice and had repeated communications with him. We met with Kevin, who denied the accusation. We also conducted a thorough investigation and found the allegation of underage conduct to be unsubstantiated. Although this was a personal relationship unrelated to the workplace, our investigation did reveal that Kevin exercised poor judgment and violated company policy regarding Internet usage and he was disciplined."

In a statement to NBC News issued Monday, Clash said the man was of age when the relationship began.

"I am a gay man. I have never been ashamed of this or tried to hide it, but felt it was a personal and private matter," Clash said. "I had a relationship with the accuser. It was between two consenting adults and I am deeply saddened that he is trying to characterize it as something other than what it was. I am taking a break from Sesame Workshop to deal with this false and defamatory allegation."

Clash has performed with "Sesame Street" characters since 1979, when he played Cookie Monster in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. He became an official puppeteer on "Sesame Street" in 1984 and created character voices for puppets such as Baby Natasha and Dr. Nobel Price.

Clash was not the first puppeteer to voice Elmo, but once he took over the character in 1985 and gave it a high-pitched toddler voice, the character became enormously popular.

Clash was the subject of the 2011 documentary "Being Elmo," which documented his lifelong love of puppeteering.

"Elmo is bigger than any one person and will continue to be an integral part of 'Sesame Street' to engage, educate and inspire children around the world," said Sesame Workshop.

Rockntractor
11-14-2012, 12:07 AM
Somebody shelled out a bunch of money!

Novaheart
11-14-2012, 12:09 AM
So this guy ruins Kevin Clash's life and the press still doesn't name the lying POS?

Novaheart
11-14-2012, 12:11 AM
Somebody shelled out a bunch of money!

Do you have more reason to disbelieve the recantation rather than the accusation?

Rockntractor
11-14-2012, 12:13 AM
So this guy ruins Kevin Clash's life and the press still doesn't name the lying POS?

Sesame Street pays out a bunch of money and bend-over Elmo is soon forgotten, they don't want it stirred up.

Novaheart
11-14-2012, 12:22 AM
Sesame Street pays out a bunch of money and bend-over Elmo is soon forgotten, they don't want it stirred up.

The problem with that is that when you pay people to go away, many people assume that you were paying because you were actually guilty. You could be right of course. I'm more inclined to think it falls into a category more similar to that of false accusers of big celebrities and Catholic Bishops. You simply can't win by retaliating against someone that the public might see sympathetically by virtue of the fact that he would be so desperate as to make a false accusation which defames himself in a bid for money or sympathy.

It's also quite possible that Dewey Cheatham and Howe were simply taking a shot at an immediate pay off and when confronted with an actual legal response that was going to cost the Plaintiff's attorneys upfront money, they begged off.

Rockntractor
11-14-2012, 12:26 AM
The problem with that is that when you pay people to go away, many people assume that you were paying because you were actually guilty. You could be right of course.

It's a strange deal, if I am right it's sad.

NJCardFan
11-14-2012, 01:52 AM
It's a strange deal, if I am right it's sad.

See Michael Jackson (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/michael-jacksons-15-million-payoff).

Novaheart
11-14-2012, 12:06 PM
It's a strange deal, if I am right it's sad.

The point is that you have no reason to have believed the accusation in the first place. All you know is that some unnamed person accused Clash of statutory rape, and then recanted. Moreover, what you have is an unnamed person filing a civil suit rather than a criminal complaint. It simply isn't reasonable to give this unnamed person automatic credibility when money appears to be the objective.

NJCardFan
11-14-2012, 01:52 PM
The point is that you have no reason to have believed the accusation in the first place. All you know is that some unnamed person accused Clash of statutory rape, and then recanted. Moreover, what you have is an unnamed person filing a civil suit rather than a criminal complaint. It simply isn't reasonable to give this unnamed person automatic credibility when money appears to be the objective.

Do you feel the same when it comes to a woman falsely accusing a man of rape or does this only count when it comes to homosexual cases? Also, can't this be said of the case against the Catholic church? Oh, that's right. It involves the church so it was OK.

Novaheart
11-14-2012, 03:01 PM
Do you feel the same when it comes to a woman falsely accusing a man of rape or does this only count when it comes to homosexual cases? Also, can't this be said of the case against the Catholic church? Oh, that's right. It involves the church so it was OK.

It's not surprising that you would post such a thing, since you have repeatedly demonstrated that you don't read what I have actually written on any given subject, you simply look for an opportunity to convince yourself that you have taken a dig at me.

I absolutely do feel the same way when a woman falsely accuses a man of rape. Are you saying that you are as willing to believe the one as the other? Correct me if I am wrong: Would a total stranger reading this thread not think that because this is "homosexual case" (not to mention that the accused is black) that you and Rock just assume facts not in evidence?

Can't what be said of the Catholic Church as well? That there were false accusations and recantations? There were, but few of the shadenfreude crowd payed attention to those or committed them to memory. I absolutely was put in the position of defending the Catholic Church during that news and debate run, and didn't appreciate having to do it. But integrity is taking the right position even when it would be easier to sit back and watch the witches burn at the stake.

m00
11-14-2012, 03:09 PM
But integrity is taking the right position even when it would be easier to sit back and watch
the witches burn at the stake.

Spoken like a true friend of Dorothy. :friendly_wink:

Zeus
11-14-2012, 05:09 PM
I do not think Claims of sexual misconduct and/or physical abuse should be allowed to just go away. These are very serious accusations and can/do cause irreparable harm to the accused regardless of the veracity of the charge.

Elspeth
11-21-2012, 04:48 PM
The recanter now wants out of the settlement with Clash AND there is a new lawsuit as well:

Kevin Clash Accuser Insists He Didn't Lie and Wants Out of Settlement (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00055644.html#ixzz2CpIm81lb)



According to a report from TMZ, Sheldon Stephens, the struggling actor/model who accused the 52-year-old puppeteer of having sex with him while he was underage, insists that he did not lie about his story. He now also wants to undo the settlement deal he signed just a few days ago.

The 23-year-old Stephens also claims that he did not want to sign the agreement in the first place, but was pressured to do so at that moment. He regrets signing the deal and is now talking to lawyers in Los Angeles who could help him undo his actions.

In the settlement agreed upon by the two sides earlier, Clash allegedly agreed to pay his accuser $125,000 for him to publicly retract his underage sex claim. Though Stephens signed the agreement, sources revealed to TMZ that he was literally crying throughout the final negotiations with Clash's lawyers and repeatedly said he didn't want to sign.

With this new turn of events, Stephens is now saying to his lawyers that he is willing to forfeit the $125,000 in order to restore the dignity of his name. Meanwhile, Clash's lawyers said he would have no comment on the settlement story.

Read more: http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00055644.html#ixzz2CtP8XDA6




AND there's a real lawsuit now--filed by someone else-- and Elmo's voice has resigned:

Voice of Elmo quits after underage sex lawsuit filed

Voice of Elmo quits after underage sex lawsuit filed (http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/20/showbiz/voice-of-elmo-resigns/)


Kevin Clash, the puppeteer who provides the voice of Elmo on "Sesame Street," resigned Tuesday after a man filed a lawsuit accusing him of conducting an underage sexual relationship.

The lawsuit was filed in a New York court Tuesday, a week after another accuser recanted his claim that Clash, now 52, engaged him in underage sex...

...In the lawsuit, Cecil Singleton alleged that Clash "persuaded, induced, coerced or enticed" him to meet for sexual encounters when he was 15 years old.

"Kevin Clash preyed on vulnerable teenage boys, like Cecil Singleton, to satisfy his depraved sexual interests," attorney Jeff Herman said. "By coming forward now, Cecil hopes to spare the lives of others like him and to begin his own healing process."

The suit seeks $5 million in damages from Clash, alleging that Singleton "suffered severe injuries, including but not limited to mental, psychological and emotional trauma."

The earlier accuser -- who never filed a lawsuit -- issued a statement through a lawyer last week saying he "wants it to be known that his sexual relationship with Mr. Clash was an adult consensual relationship."

Rockntractor
11-21-2012, 05:01 PM
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Odysseus
11-22-2012, 11:44 AM
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