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namvet
11-17-2012, 02:00 PM
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seems Obozo is going after our 401K's, IRA's and retirement accounts. claims its not fair to poor people. legal?? that's means a national retirement system. read on

A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administrationís effort to nationalize the nationís pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRAís and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

The hearing, held in the Labor Departmentís main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.

story (http://www.nationalseniorscouncil.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=89%3Aobama-begins-push-for-new-national-retirement-system&catid=34%3Asocial-security&Itemid=62)

if true he's to late for me. in 08 i had mine bundled and sent overseas.

Bailey
11-17-2012, 02:13 PM
Are you kidding me? no way it would get by the house and if it did for some reason get past it, the people with pitchforks and torches would amass outside the whitehouse.

namvet
11-17-2012, 03:22 PM
Are you kidding me? no way it would get by the house and if it did for some reason get past it, the people with pitchforks and torches would amass outside the whitehouse.

he shoved deathcare down our throats. we may be in for another damned fight here. the house??? full a limp dicks

Bailey
11-17-2012, 03:25 PM
he shoved deathcare down our throats. we may be in for another damned fight here. the house??? full a limp dicks

Yes he did shove it down our throats but it would take many more years of socialism for him and/or others to take 401k's/Ira's. There would be mass upraising and chaos.

Rockntractor
11-17-2012, 03:31 PM
Yes he did shove it down our throats but it would take many more years of socialism for him and/or others to take 401k's/Ira's. There would be mass upraising and chaos.

Things could collapse and change rapidly, this could quite easily happen very soon.

Odysseus
11-17-2012, 03:40 PM
Are you kidding me? no way it would get by the house and if it did for some reason get past it, the people with pitchforks and torches would amass outside the whitehouse.

He can bypass the house through executive orders that empower regulators to seize them, or to simply impose rules on the banks that force them to "invest" the funds in areas directed by the government, which is more subtle, in the sense that fascism is more subtle than outright socialism. By the time people figured out that their 401ks and IRAs were invested in solar panel makers and windfarms, the damage would already be done.

Rockntractor
11-17-2012, 03:56 PM
He can bypass the house through executive orders that empower regulators to seize them, or to simply impose rules on the banks that force them to "invest" the funds in areas directed by the government, which is more subtle, in the sense that fascism is more subtle than outright socialism. By the time people figured out that their 401ks and IRAs were invested in solar panel makers and windfarms, the damage would already be done.

People have no idea what the potential consequences may be for reelecting this administration, Nova may enjoy mocking me with chicken little sky is falling pictures but he needs to remember he is old white and male, probably the least desirable person in this administrations eyes, the election is over and the gay part won't matter.
There will be a massive transfer of wealth that will take place and the producers backs will be broken, those who have saved will be robbed and the money given to those that have not, the rights of citizens will become meaningless but the rights of illegals belonging to preferred races will rise.
What Obama will put in place will not be sustainable and will probably crumble sooner than later but if you read any history whatsoever you will realize that the poverty and pain this could cause will last for decades.
This is the world we give our children, soon enough those who sat out elections, threw away their votes on nonviable candidates or outright voted for Obama will curse the day they did so.

linda22003
11-17-2012, 04:35 PM
Someone at work asked me to look into that story, and I did. It wasn't a congressional hearing, so no enaction of law can come from it, and it took place in September of 2010' with not a peep since. I think we can all sleep tonight.

Zathras
11-17-2012, 05:00 PM
Well, they wont get mine....I spent what was in it to survive 4 years of unemployment and it's all gone.

namvet
11-17-2012, 05:20 PM
Yes he did shove it down our throats but it would take many more years of socialism for him and/or others to take 401k's/Ira's. There would be mass upraising and chaos.

don't tease me

namvet
11-17-2012, 05:27 PM
Someone at work asked me to look into that story, and I did. It wasn't a congressional hearing, so no enaction of law can come from it, and it took place in September of 2010' with not a peep since. I think we can all sleep tonight.

this is dated 2 days ago.

Obama begins push for new national retirement system

link (http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/obama-begins-push-for-new-national-retirement-system/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)


congressional hearing.....huh???

Bailey
11-17-2012, 05:48 PM
Someone at work asked me to look into that story, and I did. It wasn't a congressional hearing, so no enaction of law can come from it, and it took place in September of 2010' with not a peep since. I think we can all sleep tonight.

What do you care if its true? Its only the little people who will be hurt

Madisonian
11-17-2012, 06:42 PM
Are you kidding me? no way it would get by the house and if it did for some reason get past it, the people with pitchforks and torches would amass outside the whitehouse.

Whatever you are smoking, pass it down the row.
If the last few years have proven anything, it is that there is no end to what the government will foist on the plebians that a majority of them will not accept in one way or another.

Bailey
11-17-2012, 07:01 PM
Whatever you are smoking, pass it down the row.
If the last few years have proven anything, it is that there is no end to what the government will foist on the plebians that a majority of them will not accept in one way or another.

unless Obama does an end run around congress, no way in hell do the republicans allow this to pass. IMHO, most people who accepted obamacare thought someone else was going to pay (the rich paying higher taxes etc) but this idea will come out of their pockets. No way will they allow it.

linda22003
11-17-2012, 07:28 PM
this is dated 2 days ago.

Obama begins push for new national retirement system

link (http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/obama-begins-push-for-new-national-retirement-system/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)




Please learn to read more carefully. The link you have, from World Nuts Daily, links to the National Senior Council.....
at the bottom of the NSC article it says:
"(Originally posted 10/13/10)"

Rockntractor
11-17-2012, 07:32 PM
I can hear the sales job now, we are investing anyway why not invest in our country, it's the patriotic thing to do, it will make America strong for our children and the government will protect and insure our investments, after all they already insure our bank accounts why not our retirement. Why it is the only sane and right thing to do, after all if the government were to fail which it will never do, we would all fail anyway.

Rockntractor
11-17-2012, 07:37 PM
Please learn to read more carefully. The link you have, from World Nuts Daily, links to the National Senior Council.....
at the bottom of the NSC article it says:
"(Originally posted 10/13/10)"

I wonder if I were to look through the archives, if I would find a post by you arguing that we will never have government controlled healthcare?

linda22003
11-18-2012, 08:51 AM
I don't think so. I have not commented much on healthcare one way or the other. You go right ahead, though.

Novaheart
11-18-2012, 12:48 PM
this is dated 2 days ago.

Obama begins push for new national retirement system

link (http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/obama-begins-push-for-new-national-retirement-system/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)


congressional hearing.....huh???

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