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Rockntractor
01-20-2013, 02:47 PM
Pennsylvania girl, 5, suspended for threatening to shoot girl with pink toy gun that blows soapy bubbles

By Edmund DeMarche

Published January 19, 2013

FoxNews.com
A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink Hello Kitty toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten.

Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days for issuing a 'terroristic threat.' But her punishment was reduced to two days after her mother met with school officials and had the incident dropped to 'threatening to harm another student,' which apparently carries a lesser punishment.

"It's laughable," Robin Ficker, the girl's attorney told FoxNews.com. "This is a girl who had no idea about killing or what happened in Connecticut."
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The teachers involved should be publicly whipped, have idiot tattooed to their foreheads and have any teaching credentials revoked for life.

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Rockntractor
01-20-2013, 02:58 PM
I can't even fathom the stupidity that is being forced on children by these degenerate products of our teachers unions, posing as educators.

patriot45
01-20-2013, 04:10 PM
Just imagine if she was caught with that assault like bubble gun and operating a lemonade stand in a pro life t-shirt!!! :rolleyes:

Novaheart
01-20-2013, 04:31 PM
I can't even fathom the stupidity that is being forced on children by these degenerate products of our teachers unions, posing as educators.

I know that everyone can't do what we did (Quaker school and home school) but I would move heaven and earth to do it if I had to do it all over again. I told my sister, "I will deliver pizzas at night and home school in the day time before we send her to (our local elementary school). " I was serious. And it's a shame because generations of local children went there and thousands of local adults have fond memories of that school.

It's not the teachers union that is the problem. It really isn't. It's the politicians, judges, lawyers, civic activists, and ultimately the parents at these schools who put up with all of the crap. If American parents would simply say that they have had enough of these trashed schools, and keep their kids home then something would get done.

Lanie
01-20-2013, 08:36 PM
I can't even fathom the stupidity that is being forced on children by these degenerate products of our teachers unions, posing as educators.

I'm still technically on as a substitute where I'm at, but I hardly go. I question whether I shouldn't go back. I can't help but think stupidity like this makes me realize I was right. If I go back, it might be to a private school. Shameful.

Lanie
01-20-2013, 08:39 PM
I know that everyone can't do what we did (Quaker school and home school) but I would move heaven and earth to do it if I had to do it all over again. I told my sister, "I will deliver pizzas at night and home school in the day time before we send her to (our local elementary school). " I was serious. And it's a shame because generations of local children went there and thousands of local adults have fond memories of that school.

It's not the teachers union that is the problem. It really isn't. It's the politicians, judges, lawyers, civic activists, and ultimately the parents at these schools who put up with all of the crap. If American parents would simply say that they have had enough of these trashed schools, and keep their kids home then something would get done.

I agree that the problem isn't the teacher's union. Why would they do that?


No, the problem is kids started shooting their classmates years ago, and the school systems don't know what to do about it. They've adopted the zero tolerance policy, which is very anti-common sense. Do they think trying to label a girl a terrorist and threatening to ruin her life is going to make them safer?

Rockntractor
01-20-2013, 08:54 PM
I agree that the problem isn't the teacher's union. Why would they do that?


No, the problem is kids started shooting their classmates years ago, and the school systems don't know what to do about it. They've adopted the zero tolerance policy, which is very anti-common sense. Do they think trying to label a girl a terrorist and threatening to ruin her life is going to make them safer?

The teachers unions make it almost impossible to remove imbeciles from their ranks.

SaintLouieWoman
01-21-2013, 12:59 AM
The teachers unions make it almost impossible to remove imbeciles from their ranks.

In Sarasota County they can't fire teachers---the unions protect them no matter what. Ditto public officials. There was a short piece in the local lib rag about a local official who actually fired a total incompetent who was running one of the local "charities" in Newtown, the minority area. The woman in question allegedly allowed $6k in double billing plus ran her own independent little company that billed the local government. Her penalty? She has another government job and has been offered $75k to satisfy her wrongful dismissal lawsuit.

And we wonder why little pink bubble blowing guns brand kids as terrorists. In Lib Land, there doesn't seem to be much common sense. Common sense is dead.

NJCardFan
01-21-2013, 02:07 AM
However, if said child had yelled "allahu akbar" and pulled the cord on a make believe suicide bomb, nothing would have been done.

noonwitch
01-22-2013, 03:00 PM
I don't have a problem with schools punishing children for bringing squirt guns to school. My school did so, in 1981, long before there were school shootings to worry about. In this case, calling it terroristic is the problem, not suspending the kid for breaking the rules (with a 5 year old, a suspension is more of a punishment for the parents than the kid-and in this case, the parents should have enforced the school's rules).


Squirt guns lead to slips and falls. My high school banned them because they were being used to humiliate students, in particular, female students.

Odysseus
01-23-2013, 12:43 PM
Just imagine if she was caught with that assault like bubble gun and operating a lemonade stand in a pro life t-shirt!!! :rolleyes:

She's clearly in violation of the limit on magazine size. That bottle looks like it holds enough for thirty bubbles. Nobody needs to shoot that many bubbles.


I know that everyone can't do what we did (Quaker school and home school) but I would move heaven and earth to do it if I had to do it all over again. I told my sister, "I will deliver pizzas at night and home school in the day time before we send her to (our local elementary school). " I was serious. And it's a shame because generations of local children went there and thousands of local adults have fond memories of that school.

It's not the teachers union that is the problem. It really isn't. It's the politicians, judges, lawyers, civic activists, and ultimately the parents at these schools who put up with all of the crap. If American parents would simply say that they have had enough of these trashed schools, and keep their kids home then something would get done.

Teachers unions are part of the problem, because it's impossible to remove teachers who demonstrate this kind of idiocy, and because they have become gatekeepers to who gets into the schools. A buddy of mine applied for a teaching position in NYC several years ago. He's a published author with a bachelors in English, taught school in another state and had been subbing in the school that he applied for. He took the exam, which included an essay question on capital gains tax rates, and was told that he gave the wrong answer when he argued against raising them.


However, if said child had yelled "allahu akbar" and pulled the cord on a make believe suicide bomb, nothing would have been done.

No, the other kids would have been subjected to mandatory sensitivity training for their Islamophobic reactions.


I don't have a problem with schools punishing children for bringing squirt guns to school. My school did so, in 1981, long before there were school shootings to worry about. In this case, calling it terroristic is the problem, not suspending the kid for breaking the rules (with a 5 year old, a suspension is more of a punishment for the parents than the kid-and in this case, the parents should have enforced the school's rules).


Squirt guns lead to slips and falls. My high school banned them because they were being used to humiliate students, in particular, female students.

It's not a squirt gun, it's a bubble gun. It doesn't shoot liquid, and the school is completely insane for treating it as a weapon, just as another school punished a kid for pointing his finger and saying "kapow". It's not the object, it's the mindset, which they are trying to eradicate. They want children to hate and fear guns as much as they do.

txradioguy
01-23-2013, 12:49 PM
It's not a squirt gun, it's a bubble gun. It doesn't shoot liquid, and the school is completely insane for treating it as a weapon, just as another school punished a kid for pointing his finger and saying "kapow". It's not the object, it's the mindset, which they are trying to eradicate. They want children to hate and fear guns as much as they do.

Or as our current Attorney General put it:


"We have to be repetitive about this,” he said. “We need to do this every day of the week, and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.”

Lanie
01-24-2013, 12:52 PM
Another one. This zero tolerance policy needs to be stopped yesterday. They're out of control.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/fifth-grader-reprimanded-bringing-paper-gun-school-181022936.html

Lanie
01-24-2013, 12:56 PM
I don't have a problem with schools punishing children for bringing squirt guns to school. My school did so, in 1981, long before there were school shootings to worry about. In this case, calling it terroristic is the problem, not suspending the kid for breaking the rules (with a 5 year old, a suspension is more of a punishment for the parents than the kid-and in this case, the parents should have enforced the school's rules).


Squirt guns lead to slips and falls. My high school banned them because they were being used to humiliate students, in particular, female students.

Okay, that I can understand. Schools should take measures to prevent accidents and bullying. A lot of these rules are about zero tolerance though. They think if they can "brainwash" kids into hating guns (paper, water, etc), then they can encourage kids not to use them later. It's at the point where teachers are literally trying to ruin lives. You don't call somebody a terrorist or say they should be arrested for bringing a toy gun (arrest suggestion in my latest link). They're out of control.