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SaintLouieWoman
02-07-2013, 03:16 PM
MURDER STATISTICS FOR THE WORLD!

Kind of contradicts what the hand wringing politicians would have us believe, doesn't it?

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. - William S. Burroughs.


See the statistic at the bottom of the page.............
From the World Health Organization:
The latest Murder Statistics for the world:
Murders per 100,000 citizens
Honduras 91.6
El Salvador 69.2
Cote d'lvoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
Venezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
US Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2
Zambia 38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Nigeria 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.8
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
And
The United States 4.2
ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans

NJCardFan
02-07-2013, 03:29 PM
Greenland? There are people on Greenland?

noonwitch
02-07-2013, 03:35 PM
Cory Booker was on Bill Maher's panel on Friday night. He is a somewhat strong advocate of gun control and he was arguing with people who were all gun owners (at least Maher and Sam Harris are).

One of the reasons mayors of large cities, like Booker, want stricter gun control is because in their cities (like mine), lots of damage is done by thugs using semi-automatic weapons. I disagree with some of his ideas about how to control crime of that nature, but I don't think he is a bad guy or has some kind of ulterior motives in wanting to do something about it. He understands the fact that most of these crimes are committed with illegally purchased guns. But there is a sense among people in urban settings that banning clips with the capacity to hold large amounts of ammo will somehow reduce the numbers of victims in a drive by shooting. I don't agree with this, and this is an idea that people who don't own or use guns bring up all the time. All I do is point out that the clips/magazines can be bought illegally as easily as the gun itself, or crack cocaine, for that matter.

As much as people despised Coleman Young when he was mayor of Detroit, there was one thing he was fairly conservative about-gun laws. He was known to pack himself, and wasn't about to give up his guns. People from outside of Detroit always were trying to pressure him to do like Chicago did, and enact stricter gun control policies than the rest of the state had. He always refused-he said he had to worry about people from the "hostile suburbs" coming in to harrass the good people of the fair city of Detroit. But the rest of us knew like he did-it was to allow people to defend themselves against their fellow Detroiters.

NJCardFan
02-07-2013, 03:42 PM
Is this the same Corey Booker who stuck up for law abiding gun owners?

noonwitch
02-07-2013, 04:50 PM
Is this the same Corey Booker who stuck up for law abiding gun owners?

Yes. He did stand up for legal gun owners. Maher's show consists in a large part of the panel discussions, which are the best part of the show. Corey was discussing different things that could be done, he seemed to be taking a stand on the 30 round clips. Maybe I misinterpreted what he was saying?. But it was part of the panel discussion, so it's not always easy to understand who is advocating what policy idea.


But he also conceded that it is a complicated issue, and that he supports the right of law abiding citizens to own guns. That's kind of how I feel about it, as I am not a gun owner but if I felt the need to become one, I would not want any infringements on my ability to do so.

He also announced he was a primary candidate for Senate. He will be running against one Gerry Rivers for the democratic candidacy. I hope Corey cleans the floor with Geraldo.

Novaheart
02-07-2013, 06:43 PM
Greenland? There are people on Greenland?

http://www.evilkid.com/comics/ek2003/comics/eskimo.jpg

Starbuck
02-07-2013, 09:23 PM
...............
The United States 4.2
ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans

'Scuz me? Kenya has a gun ban? Uganda??!! Congo? Frickin' SUDAN??!!


OK. Gun ban, maybe. What they really need is a machete ban, I guess.:smile-new:

SaintLouieWoman
02-07-2013, 10:10 PM
'Scuz me? Kenya has a gun ban? Uganda??!! Congo? Frickin' SUDAN??!!


OK. Gun ban, maybe. What they really need is a machete ban, I guess.:smile-new:

I doubt if they're organized enough to have much of a gun ban. A high official from Togo was at my house in St Louis for a freebie dinner. He'd never allow guns to be owned by the every day citizens of his country. He'd be afraid they'd assassinate him.

That's probably a common theme in many of those countries---keep the guns out of the hands of ordinary folk so they wouldn't turn against their petty anty dictators. I also noticed how dangerous those islands in the Caribbean are.

JB
02-07-2013, 10:24 PM
Damn. I was going to relocate to Belize in the next couple years.

SaintLouieWoman
02-07-2013, 10:38 PM
Damn. I was going to relocate to Belize in the next couple years.

So you're a fan of the rainforest there?

Now I've got this stupid song running through my head, "The rainforest, the tropical rainforest." They used to play a movie for kids participating in a class at the St Louis Zoo. I heard that song so many times with all the little school groups.

Hawkgirl
02-07-2013, 11:11 PM
Damn. I was going to relocate to Belize in the next couple years.

Belize has a beautiful countryside and great shopping.....but I'll never forget walking off the cruise pier and seeing parents pimp off what looked like an 8 year old girl to anyone who approached. She was dressed like a pageant kid. She had a basket with dollar bills in front of her but from the looks of the men showcasing her, there was something more sinister going on.:apologetic:

noonwitch
02-08-2013, 11:23 AM
Belize has a beautiful countryside and great shopping.....but I'll never forget walking off the cruise pier and seeing parents pimp off what looked like an 8 year old girl to anyone who approached. She was dressed like a pageant kid. She had a basket with dollar bills in front of her but from the looks of the men showcasing her, there was something more sinister going on.:apologetic:


Did you want to buy her and then adopt her (not that it would have been possible)? I'm sure the police in a place like that are useless in those situations, since many have probably been bribed to look the other way.

When I worked in the Wayne County suburbs in the 90s, and lived in Detroit, my car broke down and I had to ride the bus through downtown, then up Woodward to my neighborhood. When you are riding the bus and not focusing on driving, you notice things you might not otherwise see. I'll never forget the teen prostitutes-along Woodward and along Michigan AVE. It's so sad.

Novaheart
02-08-2013, 12:38 PM
I doubt if they're organized enough to have much of a gun ban. A high official from Togo was at my house in St Louis for a freebie dinner. He'd never allow guns to be owned by the every day citizens of his country. He'd be afraid they'd assassinate him.

That's probably a common theme in many of those countries---keep the guns out of the hands of ordinary folk so they wouldn't turn against their petty anty dictators. I also noticed how dangerous those islands in the Caribbean are.

I was going to repost the list. Apart from the fact that Puerto Rico is not a country, neither Thailand nor Lithuania has a ban on private ownership of firearms. The list is corrupt.

Starbuck
02-08-2013, 05:13 PM
I was going to repost the list. Apart from the fact that Puerto Rico is not a country.................

Very good. Many people don't realize that......:star:

Rockntractor
02-08-2013, 05:28 PM
neither Thailand nor Lithuania has a ban on private ownership of firearms.

Maybe true but who wants to wear a tie all the time.http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/confused/smileys-confused-969152.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

Starbuck
02-08-2013, 06:30 PM
Maybe true but who wants to wear a tie all the time.http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/confused/smileys-confused-969152.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)

Only the Thais. The Lithuanians wear something else.:smile-new: