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bijou
02-11-2013, 07:07 AM
Last year the Pope started using a cane on occasions and recently he appeared to have trouble reading the text of an address he delivered in Rome.

There was no immediate comment from the Vatican.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9862194/Pope-Benedict-XVI-to-resign.html

bijou
02-11-2013, 07:17 AM
The Vatican's statement on the patter said that the Pope said that "He no longer has adequate strength to continue in office due to his advanced age," and that the decision was his ans his alone. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4343589,00.html

txradioguy
02-11-2013, 07:18 AM
Dear Brothers,

I have convoked you to this Consistory, not only for the three canonisations, but also to communicate to you a decision of great importance for the life of the Church. After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry.

I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering. However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the bark of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognise my incapacity to adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me.

For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is.

Dear Brothers, I thank you most sincerely for all the love and work with which you have supported me in my ministry and I ask pardon for all my defects. And now, let us entrust the Holy Church to the care of Our Supreme Pastor, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and implore his holy Mother Mary, so that she may assist the Cardinal Fathers with her maternal solicitude, in electing a new Supreme Pontiff. With regard to myself, I wish to also devotedly serve the Holy Church of God in the future through a life dedicated to prayer.

From the Vatican, 10 February 2013

BENEDICTUS PP XVI


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/11/pope-resigns-live-reaction

SarasotaRepub
02-11-2013, 09:19 AM
Interesting story to start the day with.

I'm sure the DUmmies will claim it's a Nazi or BFEE conspiracy...:rolleyes:

SarasotaRepub
02-11-2013, 09:28 AM
Response to Spider Jerusalem (Original post)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 06:12 AM
Fire Walk With Me

5. No more Hitler Youth leading the world's Catholics? n/t


Yep, just like I thought.

bijou
02-11-2013, 09:33 AM
Interesting story to start the day with.

I'm sure the DUmmies will claim it's a Nazi or BFEE conspiracy...:rolleyes:

Of course, now that George W Bush has retired he has all the time in the world to sit in his villain's lair inventing evil plots... :friendly_wink:

noonwitch
02-11-2013, 10:00 AM
I'm not a fan of any pope, being a good protestant and all. That said, I have to give this one some credit for seeing that he won't be able to perform the job and stepping down. Ever since I can remember, the previous pope has died when still in office. In an organization as large as the Catholic Church, it probably allows for an easier leadership transition to do it this way.

Rockntractor
02-11-2013, 10:53 AM
I hope nobody pissed him off?http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_6308.gif (http://www.desismileys.com/)

Is he still inflammable, or does he throw off that extra layer of protection?

Odysseus
02-11-2013, 11:00 AM
I still wish that he'd taken the name "George", after Saint George. Then, the line of succession would have been John-Paul and George, and the pressure on the next Pope to take the name "Ringo" would have been unstoppable. :biggrin-new:

LukeEDay
02-11-2013, 12:11 PM
Now is Obama's chance, he can run for Pope. Oh, wait, he already thinks he is Jesus. Which is a more powerful position.

SaintLouieWoman
02-11-2013, 01:17 PM
Response to Spider Jerusalem (Original post)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 06:12 AM
Fire Walk With Me

5. No more Hitler Youth leading the world's Catholics? n/t


Yep, just like I thought.

You can always count on them for being intolerant. So much for the lovely left.

I'm calling racism. As the granddaughter of two immigrants from Germany, I think they should be branded as racists.

ABC in Georgia
02-11-2013, 01:27 PM
Now is Obama's chance, he can run for Pope. Oh, wait, he already thinks he is Jesus. Which is a more powerful position.

Wrong Luke ...

He already thinks God Himself, is *beneath* him! :evil-grin:

His arrogance has no equal!

Novaheart
02-11-2013, 01:36 PM
I'm guessing his replacement will be an Argentine Bishop who is one fourth German, Brazilian, Italian, and "indigenous".

noonwitch
02-11-2013, 01:50 PM
I'm guessing his replacement will be an Argentine Bishop who is one fourth German, Brazilian, Italian, and "indigenous".




But wouldn't it be really cool if they got a pope from Africa? The church is allegedly making great strides there, and the Christians in many African nations (Catholic and Protestant) have suffered greatly for their faith. It could be a statement of understanding of their suffering to pick a leader for the world-wide church from that backround.

LukeEDay
02-11-2013, 01:51 PM
Wrong Luke ...

He already thinks God Himself, is *beneath* him! :evil-grin:

His arrogance has no equal!

Doh! That is correct.

linda22003
02-11-2013, 01:55 PM
Obama already has a job for the next four years. Besides, not being Catholic would probably hurt his chances.

Novaheart
02-11-2013, 01:56 PM
But wouldn't it be really cool if they got a pope from Africa? The church is allegedly making great strides there, and the Christians in many African nations (Catholic and Protestant) have suffered greatly for their faith. It could be a statement of understanding of their suffering to pick a leader for the world-wide church from that backround.

$outh America

ABC in Georgia
02-11-2013, 02:13 PM
Obama already has a job for the next four years.

Yes he does, indeed ...

As Satan's Second in Command!

txradioguy
02-11-2013, 04:00 PM
Response to Spider Jerusalem (Original post)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 06:12 AM
Fire Walk With Me

5. No more Hitler Youth leading the world's Catholics? n/t


Yep, just like I thought.

You should check out the posts that Twitchy is catching.

LukeEDay
02-11-2013, 04:59 PM
Obama already has a job for the next four years. Besides, not being Catholic would probably hurt his chances.

Being a liberal, there is nothing that will ruin his chances.

JB
02-11-2013, 07:58 PM
If they pick me I'll still post here. There are some heathens on this site that need preachin' to.

Timothy Dolan would be a good pick but there's about a 0% chance there would ever be an American pope.

LukeEDay
02-11-2013, 08:01 PM
My wish is the that next Pope be named 'Pope Peter II' ...

Rockntractor
02-11-2013, 08:03 PM
If they pick me I'll still post here.

A snowman would never hold together through all the travel requirements.

JB
02-11-2013, 08:26 PM
A snowman would never hold together through all the travel requirements.Pope Joachim Bartholomew I sounds pretty cool though.

As long as there's dry ice around, I'll be fine.

SaintLouieWoman
02-11-2013, 08:44 PM
If they pick me I'll still post here. There are some heathens on this site that need preachin' to.

Timothy Dolan would be a good pick but there's about a 0% chance there would ever be an American pope.


I want Dolan to get it. Then I can say that I told off the Pope. :biggrin-new:

He taught my son's confirmation class at Immacolata Church in St Louis. My son was always quiet and didn't get into trouble. But Dolan picked on him big time. I usually never got involved, but he was such a jerk that I went to the church and had a discussion with him. He can be credited with my decision that my dad's Protestant church was more in line with my thinking. My mom didn't like my opinion of the Catholic church, thanks in large part to Timothy Dolan.

Apocalypse
02-11-2013, 09:40 PM
Our little Brit shit head from PMSNBC is already covering it properly from their perspective.


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Hawkgirl
02-11-2013, 10:11 PM
As a Catholic,and I hate to say it, Popes don't retire. They die. I hope I'm wrong, but their may be something scandalous going on behind the scenes.

Apocalypse
02-11-2013, 10:15 PM
As a Catholic,and I hate to say it, Popes don't retire. They die. I hope I'm wrong, but their may be something scandalous going on behind the scenes.

Yea they do and have.

Celestine V: Overwhelmed by the demands of the office, stepped down after five months as pope in 1294.

There have been 3 others who also stepped down.

Rockntractor
02-11-2013, 10:20 PM
The dude is 85, a lot can happen too you at 85. Just not a good age for a career at one of the most demanding times in history. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, even holding that massive hat up at that age can't be easy.

Adam Wood
02-11-2013, 10:28 PM
If there's anything to suspect, it's the part about how it's not about illness. It's hard not to have some sort of illness at 86. I would not be surprised to find out some time down the road that, like Reagan back in the late '80s, he's beginning to see the signs of senility/Alzheimer's/dementia setting in, and he doesn't want to put himself or the Church in the awkward position of him not having his wits about him while making the kinds of decisions that a Pope has to make.

Hawkgirl
02-11-2013, 10:30 PM
The dude is 85, a lot can happen too you at 85. Just not a good age for a career at one of the most demanding times in history. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, even holding that massive hat up at that age can't be easy.

His predecessor, Pope John Paul, stayed till the end, even in the late stages of Parkinson's. When you accept the position, you know it's till the end of life.

Apocalypse
02-11-2013, 11:04 PM
If there's anything to suspect, it's the part about how it's not about illness. It's hard not to have some sort of illness at 86. I would not be surprised to find out some time down the road that, like Reagan back in the late '80s, he's beginning to see the signs of senility/Alzheimer's/dementia setting in, and he doesn't want to put himself or the Church in the awkward position of him not having his wits about him while making the kinds of decisions that a Pope has to make.
Didn't really pay attention?

He is resigning due to age and health.


"In the last few months he has seen a decline in vigour, both of the body and spirit," Lombardi told reporters.

He's old, not in the best of shape. Always tired and being Pope is demanding. He cant handle it any more.

Rockntractor
02-11-2013, 11:21 PM
Let's face it, he's too pooped to pope.

Adam Wood
02-11-2013, 11:37 PM
Didn't really pay attention?

He is resigning due to age and health.



He's old, not in the best of shape. Always tired and being Pope is demanding. He cant handle it any more.Yeah, but at least this morning, the Vatican was denying that there was a specific illness, just that he was, basically, just old and infirm. I don't know if they have backed off on that specific illness denial since this morning.

Bailey
02-11-2013, 11:38 PM
I tried but I can't muster enough "giving a shit" to really care all that much.

NJCardFan
02-12-2013, 01:09 AM
But wouldn't it be really cool if they got a pope from Africa? The church is allegedly making great strides there, and the Christians in many African nations (Catholic and Protestant) have suffered greatly for their faith. It could be a statement of understanding of their suffering to pick a leader for the world-wide church from that backround.
If they allow political correctness to permeate the church then it will solidify the reason why I left the Catholic church.

Hawkgirl
02-12-2013, 01:24 AM
Ok folks, he was given the "job" at the age of 78...the RCC expects popes to age, wither and die....Not quit. He was old to begin with..he was only going to get older. There is more to the story.

Rockntractor
02-12-2013, 01:33 AM
Ok folks, he was given the "job" at the age of 78...the RCC expects popes to age, wither and die....Not quit. He was old to begin with..he was only going to get older. There is more to the story.

That is true if it was physical but Alzheimer or something mentally debilitating would be a different situation.

RobJohnson
02-12-2013, 03:58 AM
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, even holding that massive hat up at that age can't be easy.



Sounds like a pain in the neck.

noonwitch
02-12-2013, 10:08 AM
If they allow political correctness to permeate the church then it will solidify the reason why I left the Catholic church.


It wouldn't be political correctness if the man they select is qualified in every sense, and happens to be from Africa. The church in Africa is far more conservative than the church in North America on social issues, and there has been a great deal of persecution of Catholics and Protestants in some parts of the continent. Appointing an African to the papacy would be an act of solidarity with those who are suffering.

Was it political correctness when they appointed JPII, a Polish pope, who is now credited for helping end Soviet domination of Eastern Europe? When he was appointed, in the end of the 70s, people were shocked that a man from Poland, an iron curtain nation, was now Pope. The church at that time chose a man from a nation in which people were being persecuted for their faith.


I'm not a Catholic and never will be, so ultimately it really doesn't matter to me.

Odysseus
02-12-2013, 04:23 PM
Yea they do and have.

Celestine V: Overwhelmed by the demands of the office, stepped down after five months as pope in 1294.

There have been 3 others who also stepped down.

The last one was Gregory XII in 1415, but he resigned in order to end the Western Schism, when he and Antipope Benedict XIII both claimed the Papacy. I guess it's okay to quit if being Pope if there's a spare.


Let's face it, he's too pooped to pope.

You owe the United States Army a new monitor.
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Rockntractor
02-12-2013, 06:22 PM
You owe the United States Army a new monitor.
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Odysseus
02-13-2013, 10:20 PM
I hate to be all commercialistic on this sacred occasion but you need to get your pope on a rope soap and your Benedictine bobble head right away, supplies are dwindling!
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Pope soap on a rope? Nope.

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ComplexConservative
03-06-2013, 03:32 PM
Pope soap on a rope? Nope.

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