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Rockntractor
02-11-2013, 03:05 PM
In a bid to try and crackdown on the number of wolf attacks on farm animals the French government has announced a plan to try and "educate" the wild beasts. The proposal has been greeted with mixed reactions.
Can you teach a wolf not to eat sheep?

The idea is being floated in France, where the return of the wolf has got farmers and environmentalists at each other's throats.

Under a proposed "National Wolf Plan," the government says it will conduct experiments into "educating" the canine carnivore, which is spreading stealthily in remote areas.

Rest assured, this scheme does not entail lecturing wolves about the cuteness of lambs or trying to convert them to vegetarianism.

Instead, it entails capturing individual wolves that are known to attack a local flock and then marking these bothersome predators before letting them go.

The theory is that the animal will be so traumatised by the experience that it will leave the sheep alone and instead hunt for deer, boar, rabbits and other wild animals.

But if the wolf remains a problem, the ID makes it easier to be singled out and shot.

"Eleven of France's regional parks have said they are willing to take part in the experiments," Ecology Minister Delphine Batho said this week, as the proposal met a mixed reception.

Once plentiful, the wolf officially died out in France in the 1930s, wiped out by farmers and hunters.

More than a half a century later, wolves began creeping back, crossing the border from Italy. In 1992, suspicions of the comeback were confirmed when a pair of wolves were spotted in the Mercantour park in the southeast of the country.

Around 250 wolves in France

Today, according to Eric Marboutin at the National Office for Hunting and Wildlife (ONCFS), there are around 250 wolves, 90 percent of them in the Alps, and scatterings of others in the east and southwest of France, including the eastern Pyrenees.
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Um well ah I uh hmmm................................

Jim54
02-11-2013, 03:44 PM
Was it Orwell who said "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them."? I think that applies here.:friendly_wink:

Odysseus
02-11-2013, 04:36 PM
There's only one way to teach wolves not to mess with sheep:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/icnojfom.jpeg

Rockntractor
02-11-2013, 04:39 PM
There's only one way to teach wolves not to mess with sheep:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/icnojfom.jpeg

Don't they like have the right to bare sheep?http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/asile/fousmil0.gif

Odysseus
02-11-2013, 06:19 PM
Don't they like have the right to bare sheep?http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/asile/fousmil0.gif

If you disarm the rams, all that you have left are the sheep.

SarasotaRepub
02-11-2013, 07:57 PM
Man, I thought this was gonna be a Florida story but...:biggrin-new:

SaintLouieWoman
02-11-2013, 08:38 PM
Was it Orwell who said "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them."? I think that applies here.:friendly_wink:
Or only a Frenchman? :biggrin-new:

SarasotaRepub
02-11-2013, 08:58 PM
http://johnsmilitaryhistory.com/sheep.gif


:biggrin-new:

NJCardFan
02-12-2013, 12:55 AM
For a group of people who buy into Dawrin's theory they sure try to mess with what he was proposing.

Odysseus
02-12-2013, 09:40 AM
Or only a Frenchman? :biggrin-new:
The French consider themselves intellectuals, so it's a twofer.

For a group of people who buy into Dawrin's theory they sure try to mess with what he was proposing.

They don't understand Darwin. They believe that society can change nature, and that if they get society right, then nature will follow. It's Darwin by way of Rousseau. This is why they keep trying to modify human behavior to suit their desires, rather than recognize universal truths and moderate their desires. Ultimately, they will end up with dead sheep, neurotic wolves or a combination of the two, with guilt counseling for the wolves.

Janice
02-12-2013, 10:14 AM
"Wolves to be 'educated' not to kill sheep"

The title of this thread makes me think about how American govt is currently trying teach or 'educate' our kids to not have critical thinking skills necessary for independent reasoning and logic. In part, so that they become more 'malleable', easier to mold and control. And so that they have fewer and fewer survival skills in the market place of ideas.

noonwitch
02-12-2013, 05:11 PM
This reminds me of a WB cartoon by Chuck Jones.

Rockntractor
02-12-2013, 05:15 PM
This reminds me of a WB cartoon by Chuck Jones.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VYtiyjqx7E

Unreconstructed Reb
02-14-2013, 01:18 PM
The Sierra Club and the U.S. Forest Service were presenting an alternative to Montana ranchers for controlling the coyote population. It seems after years of trapping and shooting coyotes, the Sierra Club had come up with a more "humane" method of dealing with coyotes. The Sierra Club was proposing that the coyotes be trapped alive and the males castrated and thus released without killing them. This was actually proposed by the Sierra Club and USFS.

All of the ranchers thought about this for a minute. Finally an old cowboy- rancher type in the back of the room stood up and said, "Son, I don't think you understand our problem here. These coyotes aren't fucking our sheep, they're eating them." The meeting never really returned to order after that.

Odysseus
02-14-2013, 02:58 PM
The Sierra Club and the U.S. Forest Service were presenting an alternative to Montana ranchers for controlling the coyote population. It seems after years of trapping and shooting coyotes, the Sierra Club had come up with a more "humane" method of dealing with coyotes. The Sierra Club was proposing that the coyotes be trapped alive and the males castrated and thus released without killing them. This was actually proposed by the Sierra Club and USFS.

All of the ranchers thought about this for a minute. Finally an old cowboy- rancher type in the back of the room stood up and said, "Son, I don't think you understand our problem here. These coyotes aren't fucking our sheep, they're eating them." The meeting never really returned to order after that.

ROFLOL!!!

This could work out with the wolves, if the trainers could simply make them understand that they have a choice between not eating sheep or castration. I can see most male wolves going vegan, and some angry feminist wolves taking up the hunt and blaming the males out of spite.:D

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