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NJCardFan
02-26-2013, 01:44 AM
Heard about this on Glenn Beck this morning. A woman who moved from Virginia to Wyoming wrote to all of the state representatives that she didn't like the idea of allowing people with CC permits to carry in schools and is also upset at fracing. This idiot actually had the nerve to say this:


I know of other new-to-Wyoming families in similar contemplation. Your choices matter. It would be sad to see an exodus of educated, childrearing age adults from Wyoming as a result of poor lawmaking, she wrote.[emphasis mine]

Typical elitist liberals. Well, the Rep, Hans Hunt, a 4th generation Wyoming resident told her to leave. Here is a link to the article: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/24/by-all-means-leave-the-amazingly-blunt-response-one-state-rep-gave-a-citizen-who-wrote-him-opposing-concealed-carry-in-schools/#

This is what's happening all over the country. These leftists are leaving the places they are from after their ilk turned it into a shithole, moving to places that are predominantly conservative hence low crime, low taxes, nice neighborhoods, better schools, etc. and wanting these places to be run like the shitholes they left. This is what's happening in Texas. Same as illegals coming here and turning a few spots into Mexican shitholes like their country.

Starbuck
02-26-2013, 02:23 AM
Love this response:

....................It offends me to no end when liberal out-of-staters such as yourself move into Wyoming, trying to get away from where they came from, and then pompously demand that Wyoming conform to their way of thinking. We are, and will continue to be, a state which stands a head above the rest in terms of economic security. Our ability to do that is, in large part, to our “live and let live” mentality when it comes to allowing economic development, and limiting government oversight. So, to conclude, if you’re so worried about what our legislature is working on, then go back home.

Heh, heh....."Liberal out of staters.....Pompous"..........

SALOOT!:Flag2:

But the thing that gets me is that she started writing to all representatives, whether she lived in their district or not. Liberals prove they are control freaks over and over.

NJCardFan
02-26-2013, 02:34 PM
Glenn Beck is right. 39% of this country define themselves as conservative while something like 21% define themselves as liberal and yet the liberals have the loudest voice and push their liberal values in once conservative areas. It's mindboggling.

Novaheart
02-26-2013, 03:08 PM
Glenn Beck is right. 39% of this country define themselves as conservative while something like 21% define themselves as liberal and yet the liberals have the loudest voice and push their liberal values in once conservative areas. It's mindboggling.

Given that the percentages don't produce the expected results, then the logical thing to do would be to question the terminology. If a person has to be one or the other, than of the 40% unaccounted for, the majority would appear to lean liberal.

The most likely explantation is what is easily observed just by asking around: most people are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. So what defines these groups on election day would be a variable priority.

Rockntractor
02-26-2013, 03:13 PM
The most likely explantation is what is easily observed just by asking around: most people are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

Do you have an actual study to back this up or did this just fall out of your ass?

Bailey
02-26-2013, 03:15 PM
Do you have an actual study to back this up or did this just fall out of your ass?

Among other things he pulls out of there. :biggrin-new:

Rockntractor
02-26-2013, 03:26 PM
Among other things he pulls out of there. :biggrin-new:

Pulling would imply the sphincter is still in adequate condition to still contract and hold something.

Novaheart
02-26-2013, 03:42 PM
Do you have an actual study to back this up or did this just fall out of your ass?

Are two elections in which Obama won sufficient to establish that the swing vote went liberal?

Bailey
02-26-2013, 03:44 PM
Are two elections in which Obama won sufficient to establish that the swing vote went liberal?

No you can thank conservatives for not coming out and voting for Romney more.

NJCardFan
02-26-2013, 04:40 PM
Given that the percentages don't produce the expected results, then the logical thing to do would be to question the terminology. If a person has to be one or the other, than of the 40% unaccounted for, the majority would appear to lean liberal.

The most likely explantation is what is easily observed just by asking around: most people are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. So what defines these groups on election day would be a variable priority.

Several things swung the vote. Among them are that you can't run against Santa Claus. Most who voted for Obama voted for him because they don't want to lose their gravy train. This is how a man with 8% unemployment, 1 in 6 people on public assistance, national debt at $16 trillion in which Obama added $6 trillion in less than 4 years, among other things. #2, the GOP ran a weak candidate, however, they should have been able to run a shoe and win based on Obama's performance, but Romney, after a strong showing in the 1st debate, completely shit the bed on the other 2 by not playing up Benghazi as well as the state of the economy. #3, a media propaganda machine that is basically the entire MSM aside from Fox News, talk radio and some minor publications. #4, The RNC refusing to run counter ads disputing the DNC's contention that Romney is responsible for a woman getting cancer and how Ryan wants to throw old ladies over cliffs. Hell, the RNC for not having balls period and fighting fire with fire. #5, butthurt Paulbots staying home rather than voting for Romney. I could go on but the point is made but the major reason why Obama got re-elected is the first point on how people voted for free stuff. Nothing of what I stated can be refuted.

Novaheart
02-26-2013, 05:13 PM
Several things swung the vote.

And the swing vote swung liberal. You can't maintain that the liberal won at the percentages you presented unless the swing vote swung liberal.


#2, the GOP ran a weak candidate ....

You call him weak in retrospect. You thought he was going to win and win huge! But the swing vote swung liberal.


Most who voted for Obama voted for him because they don't want to lose their gravy train.

One of the more hypocritical features of the recent election and since was the number of people who get government paychecks, pensions, healthcare, or assistance who were screaming about Obamacare and Socialism.

You are still trying to convince yourself that the Republican actually won the election, or would have if people were simply as smart as you are. Plenty of people who are smarter than you are made difficult decisions of priorities in the last election. And they voted for Obama, not because Romney was weak, but because of what he said he would do.

Novaheart
02-26-2013, 05:35 PM
, they should have been able to run a shoe and win based on Obama's performance, but Romney, after a strong showing in the 1st debate, completely shit the bed on the other 2 by not playing up Benghazi as well as the state of the economy.

Maybe that's why the swing vote swung liberal: because they didn't see it as a game. Economies adapt. Anti-social law has a habit of hanging on.



.... a media propaganda machine that is basically the entire MSM aside from Fox News, talk radio and some minor publications.

So you're bitching because we don't have a Fairness Doctrine? And how exactly is it that the ruggedly individualistic high productivity genius with money conservatives which are by your reckoning a majority not met by a fawning media intent on catering to their preferred client base? Does not the free market respond to demographics?



Nothing of what I stated can be refuted.

In 2004 Bush got 62,040,610 votes. Kerry 59,028,444
In 2008 McCain got 59,948,323 votes. Obama 69,498,516
In 2012 Romney got 60,931,767 votes. Obama 65,907,213
In 2000 Bush got 50,456,002 votes. Gore 50,999,897.

Who are these voters who stayed home? Even if we assume that the difference between Romney and Bush's high were all "conservatives" rather than swing voters, then the most we can move into Romney's total would be 1,108,843 votes leaving him almost 4 million votes shy?

These voters who stayed home are either imaginary or habitual. If they don't vote conservative it's rather difficult to call them conservative voters.

Odysseus
02-26-2013, 06:03 PM
Given that the percentages don't produce the expected results, then the logical thing to do would be to question the terminology. If a person has to be one or the other, than of the 40% unaccounted for, the majority would appear to lean liberal.

The most likely explantation is what is easily observed just by asking around: most people are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. So what defines these groups on election day would be a variable priority.

Or, that the average person doesn't necessarily know what liberal and conservative mean. Or, that in the case of the last two presidential elections, the media's constant drumbeat against McCain and Romney proved decisive, especially among low-information voters. In a number of polls, when self-identified Obama voters were presented with conservative policy positions and told that they were supported by Obama, they often favored them, which tells me that the policies weren't the issue, the personalities and media saturation were.

NJCardFan
02-26-2013, 09:59 PM
Maybe that's why the swing vote swung liberal: because they didn't see it as a game. Economies adapt. Anti-social law has a habit of hanging on.
Negative. Tell yourself this BS all you want but it doesn't make it so. I truly believe that the media saturation fawning over Obama along with pop culture icons and the like, the deck is stacked against conservatives. Ever wonder why the left never talk about the economy come election time? Because they can't defend it. In this past election, the left, with the help of their propaganda machine pushed toe blame on the Republican congress and IMO a majority of the people who vote aren't smart enough to sift through the bullshit to see the forest through the trees. Pile on that the GOP is either not smart enough or it's leadership it complicit in what the left is doing to get out there and really start spreading the facts. Instead, they got into stupid pissing contests about so called women's rights and such which took the focus away from the true argument which was the economy. Fact is, the election was being handed to the Republicans on a silver platter but they decided to ignore it.




So you're bitching because we don't have a Fairness Doctrine? And how exactly is it that the ruggedly individualistic high productivity genius with money conservatives which are by your reckoning a majority not met by a fawning media intent on catering to their preferred client base? *Does not the free market respond to demographics?*
Where did I even approach this? I didn't. However, you have habitual news watchers. Believe it or not, not everyone has cable TV so their news comes from either the newspaper or the 3 major networks which all swing left. Top it off the millions and millions who could care less either way but who are Obama supporters because his propaganda machine helped by Hollywood and a bulk of the entertainment industry to make him appear to be cool, this is what swings their vote. Conservatives are portrayed ad stodgy, old white men while liberals and Democrats are portrayed to be hip(Bill Clinton playing the sax anyone?). Yes, there are conservative entertainers but they are few and far between or who don't make waves in fear that they will get blacklisted. As for cable news networks, Fox is still tops in the ratings, however, even their ratings can't trump the major 3 network news stations. CNN is back by Ted Turner money(if you saw how he ran WCW you'd see how he literally burns money) while CBS and NBC are backed by major corporations(NBC by GE and now Comcast and CBS after being owned by Westinghouse, eventually incorporated itself, and ABC is owned by Disney). Fox doesn't have the ability to be provided on free TV airways the way NBC, ABC, CBS have. CNN and MSNBC tank in the ratings regularly but they have big money behind them. I guarantee you that if even one of the major networks leaned right, the information wars would be a lot closer. Facts are facts. You can take them or leave them.








In 2004 Bush got 62,040,610 votes. Kerry 59,028,444
In 2008 McCain got 59,948,323 votes. Obama 69,498,516
In 2012 Romney got 60,931,767 votes. Obama 65,907,213
In 2000 Bush got 50,456,002 votes. Gore 50,999,897.

Who are these voters who stayed home? Even if we assume that the difference between Romney and Bush's high were all "conservatives" rather than swing voters, then the most we can move into Romney's total would be 1,108,843 votes leaving him almost 4 million votes shy?

These voters who stayed home are either imaginary or habitual. If they don't vote conservative it's rather difficult to call them conservative voters.

We have a few right here on these boards. They can't be the only ones. However, the voters staying home, if you bothered to read my entire post was just one aspect of why Romney lost. Re-read it again, just don't glean what you want. The main reason is that the voters voted for free stuff. That amounts to 70% of the reason why Obama won. Simply put, you can't run against Santa Claus.

Bailey
02-26-2013, 10:38 PM
Negative. Tell yourself this BS all you want but it doesn't make it so. I truly believe that the media saturation fawning over Obama along with pop culture icons and the like, the deck is stacked against conservatives. Ever wonder why the left never talk about the economy come election time? Because they can't defend it. In this past election, the left, with the help of their propaganda machine pushed toe blame on the Republican congress and IMO a majority of the people who vote aren't smart enough to sift through the bullshit to see the forest through the trees. Pile on that the GOP is either not smart enough or it's leadership it complicit in what the left is doing to get out there and really start spreading the facts. Instead, they got into stupid pissing contests about so called women's rights and such which took the focus away from the true argument which was the economy. Fact is, the election was being handed to the Republicans on a silver platter but they decided to ignore it.



Where did I even approach this? I didn't. However, you have habitual news watchers. Believe it or not, not everyone has cable TV so their news comes from either the newspaper or the 3 major networks which all swing left. Top it off the millions and millions who could care less either way but who are Obama supporters because his propaganda machine helped by Hollywood and a bulk of the entertainment industry to make him appear to be cool, this is what swings their vote. Conservatives are portrayed ad stodgy, old white men while liberals and Democrats are portrayed to be hip(Bill Clinton playing the sax anyone?). Yes, there are conservative entertainers but they are few and far between or who don't make waves in fear that they will get blacklisted. As for cable news networks, Fox is still tops in the ratings, however, even their ratings can't trump the major 3 network news stations. CNN is back by Ted Turner money(if you saw how he ran WCW you'd see how he literally burns money) while CBS and NBC are backed by major corporations(NBC by GE and now Comcast and CBS after being owned by Westinghouse, eventually incorporated itself, and ABC is owned by Disney). Fox doesn't have the ability to be provided on free TV airways the way NBC, ABC, CBS have. CNN and MSNBC tank in the ratings regularly but they have big money behind them. I guarantee you that if even one of the major networks leaned right, the information wars would be a lot closer. Facts are facts. You can take them or leave them.




We have a few right here on these boards. They can't be the only ones. However, the voters staying home, if you bothered to read my entire post was just one aspect of why Romney lost. Re-read it again, just don't glean what you want. The main reason is that the voters voted for free stuff. That amounts to 70% of the reason why Obama won. Simply put, you can't run against Santa Claus.


Thats why a Republican will never win, you can't run on the platform of cutting freebie's

NJCardFan
02-27-2013, 01:53 AM
Thats why a Republican will never win, you can't run on the platform of cutting freebie's
That's why I said it's indisputable. As long as entitlements are expanded, there is no way anyone, Republican or Democrat, could never win even suggesting cutting back on entitlements.