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NJCardFan
03-31-2013, 12:26 AM
As you all probably know, Google likes to post their name with a picture celebrating some event. Well, it's 3/31/13 which is Easter Sunday(at least on the East Coast right now...12:21am) and in the left hand corner, do they have an Easter bunny or anything(I'm even cutting them some slack on the religious aspect of the holiday)? Nope, they're celebrating the birthday of Cesar Chavez. Probably because dear leader proclaimed 3/31 as Cesar Chavez day. Here is the pic:
https://www.google.com/logos/2013/cesar_chavezs_86th_birthday-1114005-hp.jpg

Typical of leftists. Let's celebrate the birth of a union leader instead of Jesus Christ's resurrection.

Novaheart
03-31-2013, 12:43 AM
As you all probably know, Google likes to post their name with a picture celebrating some event. Well, it's 3/31/13 which is Easter Sunday(at least on the East Coast right now...12:21am) and in the left hand corner, do they have an Easter bunny or anything(I'm even cutting them some slack on the religious aspect of the holiday)? Nope, they're celebrating the birthday of Cesar Chavez. Probably because dear leader proclaimed 3/31 as Cesar Chavez day. Here is the pic:
https://www.google.com/logos/2013/cesar_chavezs_86th_birthday-1114005-hp.jpg

Typical of leftists. Let's celebrate the birth of a union leader instead of Jesus Christ's resurrection.

The life of Cesar Chavez is considerably better established than that of Jesus. Chavez had a drivers license.

NJCardFan
03-31-2013, 02:08 AM
The life of Cesar Chavez is considerably better established than that of Jesus. Chavez had a drivers license.

You are such an incredible asshole. I don't wish ill will on anyone but you're beginning to have me rethink that policy.

SarasotaRepub
03-31-2013, 08:23 AM
Good work Google, I doubt 10 people on the planet know who that pic is of. :rolleyes:

TVDOC
03-31-2013, 10:55 AM
You are such an incredible asshole. I don't wish ill will on anyone but you're beginning to have me rethink that policy.

What do you expect??????

I would be remiss if I didn't state:

......."Rejoice, He is Risen!......."

Happy Easter everyone!

doc

Rockntractor
03-31-2013, 10:59 AM
I would like to boycott them but they are interwoven into everything and it is almost impossible to not use them, even my phone is part Google.

RobJohnson
03-31-2013, 11:45 AM
Every guest worker in California with an Obama phone knows who he is!

Novaheart
03-31-2013, 12:02 PM
You are such an incredible asshole. I don't wish ill will on anyone but you're beginning to have me rethink that policy.

I'm much more offended that the City Of San Francisco renamed Army Street for Chavez than I am that some multinational corporation declined to nod at your religious sensitivities. Have an Easter Egg.

ABC in Georgia
03-31-2013, 12:38 PM
I'm much more offended that the City Of San Francisco renamed Army Street for Chavez than I am that some multinational corporation declined to nod at your religious sensitivities. Have an Easter Egg.

For shame! For shame, Nova ...

You used the verboten word "Easter", pumpkin! :evil-grin:

Please come back in and make a full apology on behalf of your side of the aisle, ASAP! Else you will lose all cred!

JB
03-31-2013, 12:46 PM
It's Farmer Appreciation Day too?

JB
03-31-2013, 12:49 PM
Chavez had a drivers license.Got a link for that claim?


...than I am that some multinational corporation declined to nod at your religious sensitivities.And I'll not be offended when some multinational corporation declines to nod to your homosexual sensitivities. But I'm sure Google will have some big rainbow or equals sign whenever Gay Day comes around. :rolleyes:

TVDOC
03-31-2013, 01:29 PM
And I'll not be offended when some multinational corporation declines to nod to your homosexual sensitivities. But I'm sure Google will have some big rainbow or equals sign whenever Gay Day comes around. :rolleyes:

Remember how "bent out of shape" they became over Chick-fil-a, they haven't gotten over that one yet.....

doc

Novaheart
03-31-2013, 02:21 PM
Remember how "bent out of shape" they became over Chick-fil-a, they haven't gotten over that one yet.....

doc

Chic fil a donated support to anti-gay groups. Not at all the same thing as google choosing a birthday to celebrate.

txradioguy
03-31-2013, 02:30 PM
Chic fil a donated support to anti-gay groups. Not at all the same thing as google choosing a birthday to celebrate.

One store in San Francisco. Not the entire chain. :rolleyes:

But hey Libs never are one for details when it comes to their agenda.

I'd love to see Google put the face of Jesus on there page as proudly as they display Chavez.

We both know that won't happen.

Novaheart
03-31-2013, 02:33 PM
One store in San Francisco. Not the entire chain. :rolleyes:

But hey Libs never are one for details when it comes to their agenda.

I'd love to see Google put the face of Jesus on there page as proudly as they display Chavez.

We both know that won't happen.

Google did Christmas logo. The face of Jesus is in dispute; unlike the face of Chavez.

txradioguy
03-31-2013, 02:37 PM
Google did Christmas logo.

Logo...not the same.

But then again you know that.



The face of Jesus is in dispute; unlike the face of Chavez.

There's more proof of what Christ looked like than there is credible proof you have a brain.

Novaheart
03-31-2013, 02:43 PM
Logo...not the same.

But then again you know that.




There's more proof of what Christ looked like than there is credible proof you have a brain.

There are zero contemporary accounts of jesus

Lanie
03-31-2013, 02:46 PM
Let's celebrate the birth of a union leader instead of Jesus Christ's resurrection.


I was thinking that myself earlier.

txradioguy
03-31-2013, 02:48 PM
There are zero contemporary accounts of jesus

That's because he died over 2,000 years ago you moron.

THANK YOU...you've confirmed what I was only half joking about in a previous post.

There really IS more proof of Christ's existence than of you have any grey matter between your ears.

smh.

Lanie
03-31-2013, 02:50 PM
I'm much more offended that the City Of San Francisco renamed Army Street for Chavez than I am that some multinational corporation declined to nod at your religious sensitivities. Have an Easter Egg.

Throws a malt egg at Nova.

LukeEDay
03-31-2013, 07:22 PM
Happy Easter, Everyone!

Rockntractor
03-31-2013, 07:26 PM
Happy Easter, Everyone!

Happy Easter Luke, you're a good egg.

noonwitch
04-01-2013, 08:57 AM
Good work Google, I doubt 10 people on the planet know who that pic is of. :rolleyes:


I didn't. I would only recognize Chavez in a photo from his later years.

Odysseus
04-01-2013, 10:00 AM
The life of Cesar Chavez is considerably better established than that of Jesus. Chavez had a drivers license.

Chavez was a socialist who sought to impose involuntary membership in labor cartels on workers throughout the United States. A coercive thug has no business being celebrated anywhere in a free America, but I suppose that this is the point, a reminder that our freedoms are slipping away, and we have no means to slow or stop it.

JB
04-01-2013, 10:42 AM
There are zero contemporary accounts of jesusHold on a sec...are you actually saying that from an historical perspective you don't believe that a man named Jesus Christ walked the earth 2,000 or so years ago?

Novaheart
04-01-2013, 10:54 AM
Chavez was a socialist who sought to impose involuntary membership in labor cartels on workers throughout the United States. A coercive thug has no business being celebrated anywhere in a free America, but I suppose that this is the point, a reminder that our freedoms are slipping away, and we have no means to slow or stop it.

Another way of looking at that would be that farm labor was expressly exempt from a lot of labor and wage laws as well as workplace rules. After all, Mr. Roosevelt, who gives a crap about the blacks, Mexicans, and poor white trash? It's still no cake walk, but at least they are guaranteed minwage, breaks, and toilets. Shame on those selfish people. Meanwhile, you and NJCardfan bitch and moan if you have to pay $5 more in co-pay.

Novaheart
04-01-2013, 11:10 AM
Hold on a sec...are you actually saying that from an historical perspective you don't believe that a man named Jesus Christ walked the earth 2,000 or so years ago?

I said that there were no contemporary accounts.

There were reportedly a number of people claiming to be the messiah, and women claiming to be virgins giving birth. IF you want to pick one and say , "Oh, that's the real one." I have no objection. However, the fact that neither Rome nor Herod recorded any of the events of the Biblical life of Jesus is rather damning. Surely this isn't news to you.

JB
04-01-2013, 11:26 AM
Surely this isn't news to you.OK, so you're in the "Christ Myth" crowd. Just checking.

Historians, whether secular or Biblical, all acknowledge that the Gospel accounts of the man named Jesus Christ did, in fact, exist.

Simply put, the guy described in the Gospels that was born, walked around and preached a lot and told everyone to love God and love their neighbor, who was subsequently crucified on a cross for the simple act of saying such things...was real.

Stay in the lunatic crowd if you want but He existed.

NJCardFan
04-01-2013, 01:16 PM
I said that there were no contemporary accounts.

There were reportedly a number of people claiming to be the messiah, and women claiming to be virgins giving birth. IF you want to pick one and say , "Oh, that's the real one." I have no objection. However, the fact that neither Rome nor Herod recorded any of the events of the Biblical life of Jesus is rather damning. Surely this isn't news to you.

So Herod went around and killed all male children ages 1 year old and younger why exactly?

NJCardFan
04-01-2013, 01:20 PM
Another way of looking at that would be that farm labor was expressly exempt from a lot of labor and wage laws as well as workplace rules. After all, Mr. Roosevelt, who gives a crap about the blacks, Mexicans, and poor white trash? It's still no cake walk, but at least they are guaranteed minwage, breaks, and toilets. Shame on those selfish people. Meanwhile, you and NJCardfan bitch and moan if you have to pay $5 more in co-pay.

I have over 12,000 posts. You have until the end of the day to find one where I complained at any time since 2008(when I joined this board) where I even made mention of what my co-payment is and that I consider it unfair in any way. Or Ody for that matter. You must then quote that to where we all can click on the direct link to see said quote. If you can't, you should be banned or at least you should be made to admit you're nothing but a feckless troll. I'll be home sometime after 10PM and I await your response. If not, I'm calling you out in the Dome.

On the same subject, to the mods, why do we allow this person to make such false accusations without being banned?

Lanie
04-01-2013, 01:32 PM
Hold on a sec...are you actually saying that from an historical perspective you don't believe that a man named Jesus Christ walked the earth 2,000 or so years ago?

I'm not going to lie. It's hard to pin point. The main records we have are the Bible. To make matters worse, Jesus is supposedly similar to others in history.

Not that I don't believe. I'm talking about from a historical perspective.

But Google could have waited a day for their honoring Chavez.

JB
04-01-2013, 01:42 PM
I'm not going to lie. It's hard to pin point. The main records we have are the Bible. To make matters worse, Jesus is supposedly similar to others in history.

Not that I don't believe. I'm talking about from a historical perspective.For crying out loud Lanie.


Among the variants of the Jesus myth theory, the hypothesis that a historical Jesus figure never existed is supported only by a very small minority of modern scholars. Bart Ehrman has stated that now virtually all scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and Robert M. Price agrees that this denial perspective runs against the views of the majority of scholars. Myth theorist G. A. Wells has also softened his stance on the non-existence issue. Van Voorst and separately Michael Grant state that biblical scholars and classical historians now regard theories of non-existence of Jesus as effectively refuted.Christ myth theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory)


The extant manuscripts of the writings of the 1st century Romano-Jewish historian Flavius Josephus include references to Jesus and the origins of Christianity. Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews, written around 9394 AD, includes two references to Jesus in Books 18 and 20 and a reference to John the Baptist in Book 18.

Modern scholarship has almost universally acknowledged the authenticity of the reference in Book 20, Chapter 9, 1 of the Antiquities to "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James" and considers it as having the highest level of authenticity among the references of Josephus to Christianity. Almost all modern scholars consider the reference in Book 18, Chapter 5, 2 of the Antiquities to the imprisonment and death of John the Baptist to also be authentic.Josephus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus)

Novaheart
04-01-2013, 02:56 PM
I have over 12,000 posts. You have until the end of the day to find one where I complained at any time since 2008(when I joined this board) where I even made mention of what my co-payment is and that I consider it unfair in any way. Or Ody for that matter. You must then quote that to where we all can click on the direct link to see said quote. If you can't, you should be banned or at least you should be made to admit you're nothing but a feckless troll. I'll be home sometime after 10PM and I await your response. If not, I'm calling you out in the Dome.

On the same subject, to the mods, why do we allow this person to make such false accusations without being banned?

Did you or did you not complain because your employee portion of your health care benefit premium was going to increase? And did I not at the time explain to you that the amount wasn't unusual for a person working for a major New York Bank at a much lower wage than you are paid?

Novaheart
04-01-2013, 03:08 PM
the hypothesis that a historical Jesus figure never existed is supported only by a very small minority of modern scholars

It would serve the discussion better if one were to be extremely precise and consistent. Was there a priest who may or may not have been named Jesus who really did live in the reign of Herod and who was indeed executed? Quite possible. Perhaps even likely. Does that mean that the Bible account of the life of Jesus is true, no it doesn't. It's just like those people who think that finding Biblical landmarks proves a story true. It simply does not. The existence of Sodom and Gomorah no more proves the Bible story ( which most scholars consider to be a story created to explain the ruins of a city and which is common to many cultures) than the existence of Mt Olympus proves that Zeus (who bears a striking resemblance to the Christian vision of God)
rule magically from the temple top.

Molon Labe
04-01-2013, 06:40 PM
Chic fil a donated support to anti-gay groups. Not at all the same thing as google choosing a birthday to celebrate.

In a free society a business would have the right to "freely" associate with who they may. That' the beauty of the true meaning of "freedom".

Now that business probably would fail if it were bigoted, but that's the way she goes in a "free" society.

Rockntractor
04-01-2013, 08:52 PM
Pissongoogle

https://ixquick.com/eng/?

NJCardFan
04-01-2013, 11:06 PM
Did you or did you not complain because your employee portion of your health care benefit premium was going to increase? And did I not at the time explain to you that the amount wasn't unusual for a person working for a major New York Bank at a much lower wage than you are paid?

My complaint was was that it wasn't a condition of my employment when I was hired and how it wasn't equitable. The Christie/Sweeney plan based your contribution on your salary meaning that me at a step 5 officer(should be step 6 but that's another discussion for another time) pay a higher rate than a raw recruit even though we might have the same plan. Same with comparing me to a sergeant, lieutenant, major, administrator, etc. Also, I've worked in the private sector. Worked for American Airlines for almost 5 years and my healthcare contribution % was nowhere near what I'm paying or going to be paying over the next fiscal year. By next July, I will be paying $500 a month for my healthcare. Also, unlike the person working at a bank isn't exposed to the litany of diseases nor are they in danger of getting the crap beat out of them or stabbed on a daily basis. I work with people who contracted MRSA, scabies, TB and other maladies due to the scum we're around 8 hours a day to which we're not allowed to know if they have any diseases due to HIPAA. That was the condition when I was hired. The rules were changed after I got the job. Be that as it may, I'm still fine with paying. I just want a more equitable means to do so. Hell, our healthcare contributions are socialism at it's best.

I'm also wondering if this NY banker takes home half of his paycheck thanks to all the deductions that I get taken out.

JB
04-02-2013, 03:08 PM
It would serve the discussion better if one were to be extremely precise and consistent.Attention CU: Please hold Novaheart to this standard. :rolleyes:


Does that mean that the Bible account of the life of Jesus is true, no it doesn't.Yes, it does. I'm not suggesting you accept His Divinity. Whether you believe the miracles or the Resurrection is up to you...as it to anyone. I was just curious if you believed in the historical fact that the man as described in the Gospels did exist. He did. That you deny it makes you a member of a very small and dismissed group.

Here's some more:


The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Christ, his execution by Pontius Pilate and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.

The context of the passage is the six-day Great Fire of Rome that burned much of the city in AD 64 during the reign of Roman Emperor Nero. The passage is one of the earliest non-Christian references to the origins of Christianity, the execution of Christ described in the Canonical gospels, and the presence and persecution of Christians in 1st-century Rome.

Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source. Eddy and Boyd state that it is now "firmly established" that Tacitus provides a non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus.

In terms of an overall context, historian Ronald Mellor has stated that the Annals is "Tacitus's crowning achievement" which represents the "pinnacle of Roman historical writing". The passage is also of historical value in establishing three separate facts about Rome around AD 60: (i) that there were a sizable number of Christians in Rome at the time, (ii) that it was possible to distinguish between Christians and Jews in Rome, and (iii) that at the time pagans made a connection between Christianity in Rome and its origin in Judea.I'm going to repeat this line for you since you were so hung up on contemporary earlier: "Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source."

And Lanie, are you convinced or do you need more info?

txradioguy
04-02-2013, 03:35 PM
A

And Lanie, are you convinced or do you need more info?

You could provide photographic evidence (yeah I know) and neither one of them would admit that it was credible proof of his existence.

Lanie
04-02-2013, 05:35 PM
Attention CU: Please hold Novaheart to this standard. :rolleyes:

Yes, it does. I'm not suggesting you accept His Divinity. Whether you believe the miracles or the Resurrection is up to you...as it to anyone. I was just curious if you believed in the historical fact that the man as described in the Gospels did exist. He did. That you deny it makes you a member of a very small and dismissed group.

Here's some more:

I'm going to repeat this line for you since you were so hung up on contemporary earlier: "Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate to be both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source."

And Lanie, are you convinced or do you need more info?

Okay, I'm convinced having a real historian's name.

Just for the record, my comments didn't believe I didn't believe in Jesus. I was just looking at this from a historial point of view. It wasn't meant to be disrepectful.

Elspeth
04-03-2013, 12:51 PM
The life of Cesar Chavez is considerably better established than that of Jesus. Chavez had a drivers license.

But Chavez didn't spearhead a moral or philosophical system that underpinned the cultures of a good portion of the world. Mostly, Chavez borrowed from Marx and fought for a limited group of people, who are still largely exploited today. Celebrating Chavez is celebrating a Hispanic multiculturalist token placed in a place of honor by a state whose government was largely opposed to his work and whose officials were and are taking large sums from agribusiness. Celebrating Jesus and the resurrection is celebrating a 2000-year-old worldwide religious/moral/philosophical movement that creates meaning out of life for much of the world's peoples, even now. There's simply no comparison.

Unreconstructed Reb
04-04-2013, 05:03 PM
I would like to boycott them but they are interwoven into everything and it is almost impossible to not use them, even my phone is part Google.

Google ixquick and make the switch.

alleycat
04-04-2013, 06:21 PM
I will not go anywhere near Google. IMO Google is a left wing stooge and butt boy for the Liberal Democrat Party. I use either Ixquick or DuckDuckGo for searches. Any thing that mentions Google or powered by Google I click off regardless of what it is.

RobJohnson
04-04-2013, 06:46 PM
President Barack Obama proclaimed March 31 as Cesar Chavez Day, this year it just happened to fall on Easter.

I don't look to Google for inspiration.