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NJCardFan
06-02-2013, 02:38 AM
There is a thread on another message board I'm on and the discussion is the ridiculous letter sent by various congresscritters to have the Redskins change their name and logo. One idiot said that since caucasians caused genocide with the Indians that should be enough to change it. I don't get the notion that Indians were this peace loving earth children society. They were in a constant state of flux and would go to war with each other at the drop of a hat. They would also enslave each other so I wish these idiots would educate themselves.

LukeEDay
06-02-2013, 03:07 AM
They were nothing of the sort. All that crap you were taught in grade school about the pilgrims and friendly Indians was BS.

ReinMan
06-02-2013, 09:53 AM
Yep. Peaceful as all get out...

http://ushistoryimages.com/images/indian-weapons/fullsize/indian-weapons-4.jpg

Madisonian
06-02-2013, 08:16 PM
I am surprised given the ethnic makeup of many professional sports teams, this has not become more of an issue for those minorities that do not have franchises named after them.
As long as we have the Washington Redskins, the Boston Celtics and the Atlanta Braves, why not have the Phoenix Beaners, Seattle Spearchuckers, Waco Wetbacks or Philadelphia Porchmonkeys? I mean really, why should the Indians (and not just the Cleveland ones) have all the fun?

Novaheart
06-02-2013, 08:28 PM
I am surprised given the ethnic makeup of many professional sports teams, this has not become more of an issue for those minorities that do not have franchises named after them.
As long as we have the Washington Redskins, the Boston Celtics and the Atlanta Braves, why not have the Phoenix Beaners, Seattle Spearchuckers, Waco Wetbacks or Philadelphia Porchmonkeys? I mean really, why should the Indians (and not just the Cleveland ones) have all the fun?

In all the years of my life there being Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians, I never once imagined that the terms were disrespectful.

Speaking of the truth about Indians, I recommend reading Empire of the Summer Moon.

JB
06-03-2013, 03:17 AM
I am surprised given the ethnic makeup of many professional sports teams, this has not become more of an issue for those minorities that do not have franchises named after them.
As long as we have the Washington Redskins, the Boston Celtics and the Atlanta Braves, why not have the Phoenix Beaners, Seattle Spearchuckers, Waco Wetbacks or Philadelphia Porchmonkeys? I mean really, why should the Indians (and not just the Cleveland ones) have all the fun?Dude!!

And Phoenix Beaners is my favorite. :cool:

JB
06-03-2013, 03:18 AM
PS and FYI - The American Indian, himself, gave us the term Redskin.

RobJohnson
06-03-2013, 05:20 AM
As long as the softball teams continue to teach the ladies how to make sandwiches we are all good.

http://www.jhdeli.com/Sandwich2.jpg

noonwitch
06-03-2013, 10:02 AM
In all the years of my life therher e being Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians, I never once imagined that the terms were disrespectful.

Speaking of the truth about Indians, I recommend reading Empire of the Summer Moon.

I don't think the team names are racist, but the Indians' logo is.

Eastern Michigan University changed their mascot a while back. They used to be the Hurons, now they are the Eagles. Central is still the Chippewas, though.


Native Americans wore leather, ate meat, scalped their enemies, and were as awful as any other group of humans on the planet, by modern hippie love child standards. The Axtecs performed human sacrifice, in which they ripped the hearts out of their living victims (like in Apcolypta). The Anasazi practiced cannibalism.

Perhaps the US steamrolled over the Native population as a part of manifest destiny and all that, but at least we now feel guilty enough about it to let their survivors have a monopoly on all casino gambling in rural America.

Rockntractor
06-03-2013, 11:15 AM
I don't think the team names are racist, but the Indians' logo is.

Eastern Michigan University changed their mascot a while back. They used to be the Hurons, now they are the Eagles. Central is still the Chippewas, though.


Native Americans wore leather, ate meat, scalped their enemies, and were as awful as any other group of humans on the planet, by modern hippie love child standards. The Axtecs performed human sacrifice, in which they ripped the hearts out of their living victims (like in Apcolypta). The Anasazi practiced cannibalism.

Perhaps the US steamrolled over the Native population as a part of manifest destiny and all that, but at least we now feel guilty enough about it to let their survivors have a monopoly on all casino gambling in rural America.

Good post.:biggrin-new:

Odysseus
06-03-2013, 12:44 PM
There is a thread on another message board I'm on and the discussion is the ridiculous letter sent by various congresscritters to have the Redskins change their name and logo. One idiot said that since caucasians caused genocide with the Indians that should be enough to change it. I don't get the notion that Indians were this peace loving earth children society. They were in a constant state of flux and would go to war with each other at the drop of a hat. They would also enslave each other so I wish these idiots would educate themselves.

It's all about the narrative. To Progressives, America is an evil, racist place, and this supports the narrative. Now, in all fairness, we did screw over the Indians in a big way, what with the various forced relocations and violations of just about every treaty made with them, but the Indian insurgencies pretty much demanded the relocations (the British did the same thing to the Boers in order to squash their rebellion). The Indian Wars were brutal and vicious, but the brutality and viciousness occurred on both sides.

I might take the congressmembers a bit more seriously if the Indians themselves were offended, but so far, the only people complaining about the name to my knowledge are white liberals and the odd member of the Fauxcahontas tribe (Elizabeth Warren and Ward Churchill come to mind). Liberals, of course, consider it their mission to be offended on behalf of those who may not have the time or inclination to be offended themselves (this is why global warming is such a good issue for them, as they can be offended on behalf of trees and plants), and so they will raise issues that others find trivial in order to lord their moral superiority over the rest of us.


I am surprised given the ethnic makeup of many professional sports teams, this has not become more of an issue for those minorities that do not have franchises named after them.
As long as we have the Washington Redskins, the Boston Celtics and the Atlanta Braves, why not have the Phoenix Beaners, Seattle Spearchuckers, Waco Wetbacks or Philadelphia Porchmonkeys? I mean really, why should the Indians (and not just the Cleveland ones) have all the fun?

I am highly offended by the exclusion of a derogatory Jewish team nickname from this list. Okay, I admit that there aren't many of us in football or basketball, but the next expansion round ought to include the Honolulu Hebes or the Brooklyn Bagel Benders. We may not dominate on the field, but just try to do a free agency contract without a lawyer.

NJCardFan
06-03-2013, 01:14 PM
I am surprised given the ethnic makeup of many professional sports teams, this has not become more of an issue for those minorities that do not have franchises named after them.
As long as we have the Washington Redskins, the Boston Celtics and the Atlanta Braves, why not have the Phoenix Beaners, Seattle Spearchuckers, Waco Wetbacks or Philadelphia Porchmonkeys? I mean really, why should the Indians (and not just the Cleveland ones) have all the fun?

Well, if the Native American population is going to be cheesed about a mascot, I'm surprised that a lot of them aren't pissed at the Cleveland Indians. I mean...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/52/Cleveland_Indians_logo.svg/200px-Cleveland_Indians_logo.svg.png

And apparently he's adopted a Juan Marichal type batting stance:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EenRXy_Tlb8/S093Q-8nCZI/AAAAAAAACNM/kvVIKGkxOYI/s400/chief+2.JPG