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JB
06-06-2013, 03:22 AM
Democrats' New Argument: It's A Good Thing That Obamacare Doubles Individual Health Insurance Premiums


For a while now, independent analysts—and conservative critics—have raised concerns that Obamacare will dramatically increase the cost of individually-purchased health insurance for healthier people. This would, of course, contradict President Obama’s promises that “if you like your plan, you can keep it” and that the cost of insurance would go down “by $2,500 per family per year.” What’s new is that liberal columnists, facing reality, are conceding that premiums will go up for most people in the individual market.

the average 25 and 40-year-old will pay double under Obamacare what they would need to pay today

In Orange County, where Irvine is located, the three-fourths of the 25-year-old population that is in good health will have their premiums jacked by 95 percent.

Experts in the economics of health insurance understand that this has been Obamacare’s central flaw from the beginning. The law’s heavy-handed approach to the health insurance market massively drives up premiums for the average person. <snipped>Everything, EVERYTHING this clownshoes touches turns to shit. I really can't take this guy anymore. Total failure across the board.

And imagine, the economic experts knew he was full of shit but thankfully we had Pelosi out there looking out for us and telling us how great this plan would be once they passed it. I wonder if she knows what's in it yet. :rolleyes:

Full story here (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/06/03/democrats-new-argument-its-a-good-thing-that-obamacare-doubles-individual-health-insurance-premiums/?partner=yahootix)

SarasotaRepub
06-06-2013, 08:55 AM
Anyone who believed this liar is a complete fool.

And as usual with oBAMA, it will never be HIS fault. There will always
be someone else or some ebil corporation that gets the blame while
Lord oBAMA catches Air Force One for his next Hawaii vacation.

Just remember Libtards, if oBAMA Care is so great, why isn't Lord oBAMA on it???

Elspeth
06-06-2013, 02:49 PM
My health insurance has more than doubled since the passage of Obamacare. I pay my own and it's getting out of range for me. They are going to force me on the exchange in California, where I will get crappy insurance.

JB
06-13-2013, 09:12 PM
Coverage may be unaffordable for low-wage workers


WASHINGTON (AP) — It's called the Affordable Care Act, but President Barack Obama's health care law may turn out to be unaffordable for many low-wage workers

Many are expected to remain uninsured, possibly risking fines. That's due to another provision: the law says workers with an offer of "affordable" workplace coverage aren't entitled to new tax credits for private insurance, which could be a better deal for those on the lower rungs of the middle class.

Some supporters of the law are disappointed. <snipped>Let's see...today you don't have insurance. Thanks to Barry (the guy you voted for), tomorrow you won't have insurance but you'll also have less money in your pocket because Barry decided to take it from you. Well done dopes, well done. Link (http://news.yahoo.com/coverage-may-unaffordable-low-wage-workers-151922273.html)

Has Pelosi read it yet? Has anyone asked her lately?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

Liar, filthy liar:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fmg9vHCiJeM&feature=endscreen

JB
06-13-2013, 09:19 PM
Ohio Dept. Of Insurance: Obamacare To Increase Individual-Market Health Premiums By 88 Percent


Democrats continue to try to dismiss the evidence that Obamacare will dramatically increase the cost of insurance for people who buy it on their own.

But on Thursday, the Ohio Department of Insurance announced that, based on the rates submitted by insurers to date, the average individual-market health insurance premium in 2014 will come in around $420, “representing an increase of 88 percent” relative to 2013. “We have warned of these increases,” said Lt. Gov. Mary Taylor in a statement. “Consumers will have fewer choices and pay much higher premiums for their health insurance starting in 2014.”And the hits just keep on coming.

Well done Ohio. Your state was heavily in play Nov 2012 and you backed the wrong horse. Suck on it. Hard.

The stink (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/06/10/ohio-dept-of-insurance-obamacare-to-increase-individual-market-health-premiums-by-88-percent/?partner=yahootix)

JB
06-27-2013, 09:16 PM
"Your rates will go down."

Only in Hussein world does down mean up.

Even In Over-Regulated Washington State, Obamacare Will Increase Individual Health Insurance Premiums By 34-80% (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/06/23/even-in-over-regulated-washington-state-obamacare-will-increase-individual-market-premiums-by-34-80-percent/?partner=yahootix)


For all the talk about rate shock—next year’s Obamacare-induced spike in health insurance prices—there are a few states where you’d think rate shock shouldn’t happen. In Maine, New Jersey, New York, Vermont, and Washington, insurance markets are already regulated in much the same way that Obamacare will. These states force insurers to cover everyone, despite pre-existing conditions, and they oblige carriers to charge similar rates to younger and older customers. Despite these factors, it turns out that in Washington state, Obamacare will still increase the underlying cost of individually purchased health insurance by 34 to 80 percent, on average. <snipped> I remain not shocked. Shine on you crazy incompetent.

JB
06-27-2013, 09:22 PM
"You can keep your existing coverage."

Only in Hussein world does "you can keep your existing coverage" mean "you can not keep your existing coverage". Oy.

Dear Entrepreneur, We Are Canceling Your Health Insurance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/column-dear-entrepreneur-canceling-health-164138922.html)


NEW YORK (Reuters) - As President Obama's health care overhaul begins to change how Americans get their health insurance, the nearly 22 million people who are self-employed will see some of the most dramatic changes, with perhaps half of them headed for the new health exchanges in the fall.

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that 9 million people will buy their 2014 health insurance on one of the new state marketplaces, after they open on October 1. By 2016, that will rise to 23 million, the CBO says.

With New York state's health insurance exchange not yet open and no way to shop immediately for a new plan, I felt the momentary rush of panic. What would I find to replace my corporate-like health plan, which had covered me for both in-network and out, with a low deductible. Would it be as good, and what would it cost?No. A lot.

Rockntractor
06-27-2013, 09:41 PM
Can we pay with food stamps?

NJCardFan
06-28-2013, 01:56 AM
Can we pay with food stamps?

If you're white and you once worked, you won't qualify.

JB
07-01-2013, 03:41 AM
Obamacare could eat up your raise (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-could-eat-up-your-raise-2013-06-27?siteid=yhoof2)


Expecting to get a raise next year? It could be eaten up by your health care bill.

In an effort to meet the affordability requirement of the Affordable Care Act, which kicks in next year and requires that workers spend no more than 9.5% of their income on premiums, more employers are turning to insurance plans in which premiums vary based on a person’s salary, rather than having all workers pay a flat rate. That way, employees who make more money pay bigger premiums.You didn't need that money anyway.

JB
07-01-2013, 03:51 AM
Five Things You May Not Know About Obamacare (http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/five-things-may-not-know-obamacare-174217840.html)

I wish it was just five.


1. Young, healthy adults won’t buy coverage

The Obama administration aims to enroll at least 2.7 million young adults – a group that’s historically been uninsured at higher rates than other age groups – through the exchanges for coverage in 2014. But there are indications that 20-somethings won’t be buying in and will instead opt to pay the penalty.

2. Uptick in early retirement

3. Some people won’t find their current plans on exchanges

4. Better hospital food

Banana-nut pancakes and rack of lamb for your hospital stay, courtesy of Obamacare? A Kaiser Health News and USA Today report this week found that hospital administrators are paying more attention to food service in an effort to boost patient satisfaction ratings. Under the ACA, since last year Medicare began paying hospitals based partly on their these ratings, essentially tying patients’ assessments on everything from room tidiness to nurse availability to payments. Medicare has been publishing patient-satisfaction scores on its Hospital Compare website since 2008, but hasn’t used them to adjust payments.

One patient at Rex Hospital in Raleigh, N.C., cited in Kaiser’s report raved, “The food is amazing,” while about 84% of Rex patients surveyed said they’d recommend the hospital, compared to 71% nationally, the Kaiser report said. While Medicare's surveys don’t ask specifically about food, Rex administrators attributed their better-than-average satisfaction rates to improved food.

5. Surprise tax bills

1) Is anyone surprised? Other than Hussein and Pelosi, that is?
2) meh.
3) no shit.
4) has to be the best. "Sorry we chopped off your nuts instead of removing your tonsils but was that not the best tuna salad you ever had?"
5) Never doubted it for a second.

Barry Hussein: Worst. President. Ever.

JB
07-01-2013, 03:57 AM
It’s Groundhog Day for Fact-Checkers (http://news.yahoo.com/groundhog-day-fact-checkers-211240505.html)

You know what makes a good lying liar? Keep telling the lie and make sure you believe it, even though you know it's a lie.


Patriot Majority USA, a Democratic political action committee, taps the same old playbook from summer 2012, dredging up all-too-predictable Medicare and health care claims in attacking Arkansas Republican Rep. Tom Cotton, a potential 2014 Senate candidate.

The group’s ad, launched with the Senate Majority PAC, claims that Cotton supported a plan that “essentially ends Medicare” and costs “some seniors $6,000 more a year.” Sound familiar? We debunked those same distortions from this very same Democratic group last July — we’re only a week shy of publishing this story on the same day we posted last year’s. The ad also throws in the convoluted claim that Cotton, by voting to repeal the Affordable Care act, was “voting Congress taxpayer-funded health care for life.”

So, the target for Patriot Majority and Senate Majority PAC is new; the tactics, not so much. In fact, as Glenn Kessler, the Washington Post‘s Fact Checker, said in writing about this ad, all three major fact-checking organizations (FactCheck.org, PolitiFact.com and The Fact Checker) have previously debunked these claims.

Here’s hoping there’s no Groundhog Day in the summer of 2014. <snipped>Liberals. Scumbags that have no bottom.

Someone do an FOIA request and find out if the audit of "Patriot Majority USA" was canceled after the IRS found out they were Democrat pukes.

RobJohnson
07-01-2013, 03:58 AM
Democrats' New Argument: It's A Good Thing That Obamacare Doubles Individual Health Insurance Premiums

Everything, EVERYTHING this clownshoes touches turns to shit. I really can't take this guy anymore. Total failure across the board.

And imagine, the economic experts knew he was full of shit but thankfully we had Pelosi out there looking out for us and telling us how great this plan would be once they passed it. I wonder if she knows what's in it yet. :rolleyes:

Full story here (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/06/03/democrats-new-argument-its-a-good-thing-that-obamacare-doubles-individual-health-insurance-premiums/?partner=yahootix)

We are fucked


Joseph Scott: “As a 26 year old male in San Francisco, I now pay $137 per month for medical insurance and $26 for dental on an independent plan. Using the CoveredCA site, my anticipated OBAMACARE premium, for a less desirable plan, will increase to $203 per months; not including dental.”

RobJohnson
07-01-2013, 03:59 AM
Five Things You May Not Know About Obamacare (http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/five-things-may-not-know-obamacare-174217840.html)

I wish it was just five.



1) Is anyone surprised? Other than Hussein and Pelosi, that is?
2) meh.
3) no shit.
4) has to be the best. "Sorry we chopped off your nuts instead of removing your tonsils but was that not the best tuna salad you ever had?"
5) Never doubted it for a second.

Barry Hussein: Worst. President. Ever.


They need to jack up the rates on the healthy young people to cover the older unhealthy. Socialism at it's finest.

SarasotaRepub
07-01-2013, 09:51 AM
Don't question Lord oBAMA you RACIST scum!!!!! :rolleyes:

JB
07-03-2013, 03:31 AM
Don't feel like looking back through the thread...did I do Rhode Island yet?

If not: Rhode Island health insurance rates to jump under Obamacare (http://washingtonexaminer.com/rhode-island-health-insurance-rates-to-jump-under-obamacare/article/2532566)
http://rlv.zcache.com/impeach_barry_soetoro_bumper_sticker-r5a8e32e600594c8d884353d7e31af110_v9wht_8byvr_512. jpg

JB
07-08-2013, 03:13 AM
I would be laughing if I wasn't already crying:

Not Qualified For Obamacare's Subsidies? Just Lie. Government To Use 'Honor System' Without Verifying Your Eligibility (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/07/06/not-qualified-for-obamacares-subsidies-just-lie-govt-to-use-honor-system-without-verifying-your-eligibility/?partner=yahootix)


If you thought the delay in the employer mandate was bad news for Obamacare, just wait...the Obama administration had buried in the Federal Register the announcement that the government won’t be able to verify whether or not applicants for Obamacare’s insurance exchange subsidies are actually qualified for the aid...these states will be able to “accept the applicant’s attestation [regarding eligibility] without further verification.”Are you poor Mr. Buffet?
Yep.
OK, here's some free healthcare. You need condoms or stamps while you're here?

Oy.