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Rockntractor
07-19-2013, 05:24 PM
LANSING — An Ingham County judge says Thursday's historic Detroit bankruptcy filing violates the Michigan Constitution and state law and must be withdrawn.

But Attorney General Bill Schuette said he will appeal Circuit Judge Rosemarie Aquilina’s Friday rulings and seek emergency consideration by the Michigan Court of Appeals. He wants her orders stayed pending the appeals, he said in a news release.

In a spate of orders today arising from three separate lawsuits, Aquilina said Gov. Rick Snyder and Detroit emergency manager Kevyn Orr must take no further actions that threaten to diminish the pension benefits of City of Detroit retirees.

“I have some very serious concerns because there was this rush to bankruptcy court that didn’t have to occur and shouldn’t have occurred,” Aquilina said.
Read More>http://www.freep.com/article/20130719/NEWS06/307190075/Michigan-AG-challenges-judge-s-ruling-Detroit-bankruptcy-unconstitutional

Before this is over Obama will step in and use tax payer money to prop up union pensions and quite possibly attempt to bail the city out. Black + union= endless taxpayer money pit under Obama admin.

LukeEDay
07-19-2013, 05:33 PM
Oh you know Barry will bail them. He will just borrow the money from China again.

Apocalypse
07-19-2013, 07:41 PM
“I have some very serious concerns because there was this rush to bankruptcy court that didn’t have to occur and shouldn’t have occurred,” Aquilina said.

Translation. They should have raised taxes on the "Ebil Rich".

DumbAss Tanker
07-19-2013, 09:05 PM
“I have some very serious concerns because there was this rush to bankruptcy court that didn’t have to occur and shouldn’t have occurred,” Aquilina said.

Those are matters properly to be raised in the bankruptcy proceeding, not something for any random circuit judge the union can get into its pocket.

Apocalypse
07-20-2013, 12:37 AM
Oh you know Barry will bail them. He will just borrow the money from China again.

Nope, seems Barry told them to F'off in not so polite terms.

Via The American Interest: (http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/07/18/obama-to-detroit-drop-dead/)


Buried in the middle of the report is a telling climax to this sorry tragedy:


Any hope of a federal bailout to avert bankruptcy fizzled last week after Mr. Orr spoke with the White House, including Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett, according to city and White House officials.



This is where blue governance has brought Detroit in the end: not even a liberal Democratic administration will step in to save the pensions of thousands of public workers and African Americans, condemning countless innocents to having their pensions and health benefits gutted in bankruptcy court.

Apocalypse
07-20-2013, 01:33 AM
Interesting point raised.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/arts/design/detroits-creditors-eye-its-art-collection.html?hp

Seems the city of Detroit OWNS over $2 BILLION in art.

As the bankruptcy proceeds the judge will have to decide if and what of this art should and must be sold off to pay off its debt. And what kind of effect it could have on future city revenue from tourism.

A better question is, how did a city with such a bad record in managing it's money come to own Bruegel, Caravaggio, Rembrandts and van Goghs. It is considered among the top 10 encyclopedic museums in the country owned by the city, not private collectors loaning out their art.

Rockntractor
07-20-2013, 01:51 AM
Interesting point raised.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/20/arts/design/detroits-creditors-eye-its-art-collection.html?hp

Seems the city of Detroit OWNS over $2 BILLION in art.

As the bankruptcy proceeds the judge will have to decide if and what of this art should and must be sold off to pay off its debt. And what kind of effect it could have on future city revenue from tourism.

A better question is, how did a city with such a bad record in managing it's money come to own Bruegel, Caravaggio, Rembrandts and van Goghs. It is considered among the top 10 encyclopedic museums in the country owned by the city, not private collectors loaning out their art.

A corporation could be formed around the museum with shares sold to private individuals and companies, the proceeds form the shares could then go to pay the debt owed by the city and with proper management the museum could become profitable a generate money for the local economy.
The dead weight worthless trash democrats that have run one of the most enterprising and profitable cities in history of mankind into the dirt need to be given a bus ride out of town or given jobs cleaning up behind the zoo animals.

Bailey
07-20-2013, 08:42 AM
Nope, seems Barry told them to F'off in not so polite terms.

Via The American Interest: (http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/07/18/obama-to-detroit-drop-dead/)

WHy would he bail them out? they are already on the plantation.

Rockntractor
07-20-2013, 03:53 PM
Obama may say no at the present but mark my word, US taxpayers will pay the bill. Obama is an expert with back door solutions.

Odysseus
07-21-2013, 02:06 AM
Those are matters properly to be raised in the bankruptcy proceeding, not something for any random circuit judge the union can get into its pocket.

From the article:


Aquilina said the Michigan Constitution prohibits actions that will lessen the pension benefits of public employees, including those in the City of Detroit. Snyder and Orr violated the constitution by going ahead with the bankruptcy filing, because they know reductions in those benefits will result, Aquilina said.

This is utterly specious. The Michigan Constitution doesn't govern the compensation of city employees, much less that of former employees. The sole mention of collective bargaining in the constitution applies to state troopers.

Apocalypse
07-21-2013, 02:16 AM
This is utterly specious. The Michigan Constitution doesn't govern the compensation of city employees, much less that of former employees. The sole mention of collective bargaining in the constitution applies to state troopers.

Specious?

Try Obama hack.


“It’s cheating, sir, and it’s cheating good people who work. It’s also not honoring the president, who took (Detroit’s auto companies) out of bankruptcy.”


Aquilina said she would make sure President Obama got a copy of her order.


“I know he’s watching this,” she said, predicting the president ultimately will have to take action to make sure existing pension commitments are honored.

RobJohnson
07-21-2013, 02:59 AM
We all know climate change caused the Detroit bankruptcy.

ralph wiggum
07-21-2013, 10:23 AM
We all know climate change caused the Detroit bankruptcy.

Oh come on Rob, we all know this is Bush's fault!

DumbAss Tanker
07-21-2013, 11:29 AM
From the article:


Aquilina said the Michigan Constitution prohibits actions that will lessen the pension benefits of public employees, including those in the City of Detroit. Snyder and Orr violated the constitution by going ahead with the bankruptcy filing, because they know reductions in those benefits will result, Aquilina said.

This is utterly specious. The Michigan Constitution doesn't govern the compensation of city employees, much less that of former employees. The sole mention of collective bargaining in the constitution applies to state troopers.

Nonetheless, the validity (Or lack thereof) of the point is one that should be decided by the bankruptcy judge in a challenge and response to either jurisdiction or standing of the city to file in the bankruptcy proceedings, it is not an appropriate matter to be taken up in a separate court.