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LibraryLady
10-05-2008, 11:12 PM
LiberadorHugo (341 posts)Sun Oct-05-08 10:53 PM
Original message (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7327604)
How is Keating 5 good?

4 Dems were destroyed; McDouche was exonerated.

I have wondered this as well. DU is always screaming about Keating. I truly don't remember the whole thing but the little I read didn't seem bad for McCain.

Can anyone explain?

Zeus
10-05-2008, 11:22 PM
From what I remember about the situation no one was destroyed. Three basically got slapped on the hands. McCain & John Glenn got totally exonerated except for being admonished about poor judgment.

biccat
10-06-2008, 11:13 AM
From what I remember about the situation no one was destroyed. Three basically got slapped on the hands. McCain & John Glenn got totally exonerated except for being admonished about poor judgment.

Except McCain was the only one (IIRC) to recover politically. The rest lost their seats.

LibraryLady
10-06-2008, 11:16 AM
The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly intervening in 1987 on behalf of Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association


All five of the senators involved served out their terms. Only Glenn and McCain ran for re-election, and they both succeeded.

Well, at least McCain was working bi-partisan!;)

M21
10-06-2008, 02:13 PM
I believe that four out of the five were Democrats?

I bet they don't beat this drum too loudly.

LibraryLady
10-06-2008, 02:16 PM
And John Glenn is campaigning for Zer-0

hoplophobe
10-06-2008, 02:18 PM
I have wondered this as well. DU is always screaming about Keating. I truly don't remember the whole thing but the little I read didn't seem bad for McCain.

Can anyone explain?

This is how the MSM explains it.
Keating 5=Bad and greedy.
McCain was one of the Keating 5, therefore:
McCain=Bad and greedy.

M21
10-06-2008, 02:23 PM
And John Glenn is campaigning for Zer-0Maybe the next time John Glenn is with "The One" a MSM reporter will march right up and and ask him all about this little dust up? :rolleyes:

Zeus
10-06-2008, 02:25 PM
Except McCain was the only one (IIRC) to recover politically. The rest lost their seats.

Cranston considered the worst of the five decided against running for a fifth term while he battled prostate cancer.

DeConcini retired in 1995 after 18 yrs in office.

John Glenn retired in 1999 after 25 yrs in office

Donald Riegle Jr did not seek re-election and retire from office in 1995.

Keagle & Cranston the only ones that losts seats by not running following the scandal.

Like I said Cranston,Keagle & DeConcini basically got their hands slapped & McCain & glenn were totally exonerated except for admonision for bad judgement.

LogansPapa
10-06-2008, 02:25 PM
"I faced in Vietnam, at times, very real threats to life and limb," McCain told The Associated Press. "But while my sense of honor was tested in prison, it was not questioned. During the Keating inquiry, it was, and I regretted that very much."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/24/politics/main3964240.shtml

Goldwater
10-06-2008, 05:22 PM
I have wondered this as well. DU is always screaming about Keating. I truly don't remember the whole thing but the little I read didn't seem bad for McCain.

Can anyone explain?

McCain is the actual nominee, the Democrats involved are forgotten now, or if they're still around no one cares about them?

Constitutionally Speaking
10-06-2008, 09:31 PM
I believe that four out of the five were Democrats?

I bet they don't beat this drum too loudly.


According to Bill Clinton's lawyer for the Lewinsky scandal, the ONLY reason McCain was included at all was the democrats would not pursue any investigation UNLESS they could also have a Republican in the mix. McCain attended a total of two meetings on behalf of Keating and REFUSED to cooperate once it was known what Keating was up to.