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GrumpyOldLady
10-07-2008, 08:01 AM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2lks2mt.jpg

The Minor Planet Electronic Circulars

www.cfa.harvard.edu (http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K08/K08T50.html)

"Steve Chesley (JPL) reports that atmospheric entry will occur on 2008
Oct 07 0246 UTC over northern Sudan.


Hmm .. Northern Sudan ... just a few miles from MECCA!

(one could only wish)

It's supposed to be 15 feet across and full of different metals.

From Space News - http://www.spaceweather.com

From RENSE - http://rense.com/general83/aster.htm

Gingersnap
10-07-2008, 09:53 AM
It looks like there was no damage. It's kind of scary to think they noticed it just 6 hours before impact, though. :eek:

LogansPapa
10-07-2008, 10:32 AM
You do realize that Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, no? :confused:

LibraryLady
10-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Isn't it only about 100 miles apart?

bijou
10-07-2008, 10:42 AM
3 hours to go! I'm still planning to get on with life as normal though, I am cautious about stories from RENSE.

Gingersnap
10-07-2008, 10:48 AM
3 hours to go! I'm still planning to get on with life as normal though, I am cautious about stories from RENSE.

I think it already burned up so I'd go ahead with those dinner reservations. :D

LogansPapa
10-07-2008, 11:16 AM
Isn't it only about 100 miles apart?

Yep - and Sudan's 967,495 sq mi. :rolleyes:

GrumpyOldLady
10-07-2008, 01:43 PM
You do realize that Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, no? :confused:

Yes. But if you look on the globe, it's not that far.

If only ....

Sorry, but if an asteroid is coming down that close to Mecca, it's a shame it didn't go just a bit further.
Afterall, that's what they worship when they go on a haj. They walk around a meteor.

It seems like a waste of a perfectly good asteroid - to miss mecca like that. :p

LogansPapa
10-07-2008, 01:53 PM
It seems like a waste of a perfectly good asteroid - to miss mecca like that. :p

Wishing the destruction of a religion’s capital is the kind of thinking that got us embroiled in the Middle East and relearning (or not) the lessons the French and English were exposed to a century ago. Very small thinking.

GrumpyOldLady
10-07-2008, 02:13 PM
Very small thinking.

See it as you wish.

I see it as a waste of an asteroid that had soooooo much potential.

Goldwater
10-07-2008, 02:14 PM
It seems like a waste of a perfectly good asteroid - to miss mecca like that. :p

:rolleyes:

LogansPapa
10-07-2008, 02:29 PM
See it as you wish.

That goes without saying.


I see it as a waste of an asteroid that had soooooo much potential.

I wonder if you’d be so amused if this thing hit Bethlehem?

Goldwater
10-07-2008, 02:37 PM
I see it as a waste of an asteroid that had soooooo much potential.

:eek:

... :rolleyes:

Shannon
10-07-2008, 02:48 PM
It seems like a waste of a perfectly good asteroid - to miss mecca like that. :p

That would have been a good start.

Eyelids
10-07-2008, 03:00 PM
See it as you wish.

I see it as a waste of an asteroid that had soooooo much potential.

Are you seriously rooting for innocent people to die?

GOL is officially a terrorist.

GrumpyOldLady
10-07-2008, 06:17 PM
Are you seriously rooting for innocent people to die?


It was 15 feet across. It wouldn't do much damage except what it hit.
There are no innocent Imams in Mecca.


I wonder if you’d be so amused if this thing hit Bethlehem?
Bethlehem isn't the center of a male orientated sex cult that calls for men to treat women as sub-human.
Bethlehem doesn't house nasty Imams who call for women to be treated as slaves.
Bethlehem doesn't hold a stupid meteor rock that gets worshipped by a cult that calls for the death of any member that wants to leave.
Bethlehem isn't the capital of a cult that says 'convert or die'.
Bethlehem isn't the capital of a cult that is hell bent on taking over the world.

BUT MECCA IS.

Like I said - it was a waste of a good asteroid. If it had hit that frigg'n stupid meteor that they all walk in circles around during their haj, stampeading each other over, then perhaps it would have woken a few of them up from their cult.

SarasotaRepub
10-07-2008, 06:51 PM
I see it as a waste of an asteroid that had soooooo much potential.


That is truly eeeeeeeeeevil. I like that. :D

Aaron Burr
10-08-2008, 04:29 PM
Evil is usually capitalized. Show some respect.

Also, meteors are terribly inefficient weapons. "Plausible Deniability" is where it's at.

Besides, Mecca just needs a couple of casinos...maybe a Hooters, and they'll be fine.

Servonaut
10-08-2008, 04:39 PM
It was 15 feet across. It wouldn't do much damage except what it hit.
There are no innocent Imams in Mecca.


Bethlehem isn't the center of a male orientated sex cult that calls for men to treat women as sub-human.
Bethlehem doesn't house nasty Imams who call for women to be treated as slaves.
Bethlehem doesn't hold a stupid meteor rock that gets worshipped by a cult that calls for the death of any member that wants to leave.
Bethlehem isn't the capital of a cult that says 'convert or die'.
Bethlehem isn't the capital of a cult that is hell bent on taking over the world.

BUT MECCA IS.

Like I said - it was a waste of a good asteroid. If it had hit that frigg'n stupid meteor that they all walk in circles around during their haj, stampeading each other over, then perhaps it would have woken a few of them up from their cult.


I like the way you think GOL. ;)

PoliCon
10-08-2008, 04:51 PM
You do realize that Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, no? :confused:which is not all that far from sudan.http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/images/red-sea-bannerfish-saudi-arabia-map2.jpg

LogansPapa
10-08-2008, 04:53 PM
Reference post #7. :rolleyes:

PoliCon
10-08-2008, 04:53 PM
Are you seriously rooting for innocent people to die?

GOL is officially a terrorist.If she's a terrorist so is every asshole who supports abortion on demand. You want to reevaluate your statement???

PoliCon
10-08-2008, 04:55 PM
See it as you wish.

I see it as a waste of an asteroid that had soooooo much potential.The destruction of Mecca would end that religion within a generation.

PoliCon
10-08-2008, 04:55 PM
That goes without saying.



I wonder if you’d be so amused if this thing hit Bethlehem?My religion goes on with or without Bethlehem. Islam dies without Mecca.

LogansPapa
10-08-2008, 04:58 PM
My religion goes on with or without Bethlehem. Islam dies without Mecca.

Your ignorance of Damascus and Jerusalem is utterly astounding.

PoliCon
10-08-2008, 05:00 PM
Your ignorance of Damascus and Jerusalem is utterly astounding.jackass - it is a central tenant of that faith that every man make a pilgrimage to mecca to be saved. No mecca - no haj - no salvation. A dead religion within a generation.

LogansPapa
10-08-2008, 05:04 PM
jackass - it is a central tenant of that faith that every man make a pilgrimage to mecca to be saved.

Oh, silly twat: Reference the Dome of the Rock as the place from which the Prophet ascended into heaven for a real education.:rolleyes:

GrumpyOldLady
10-08-2008, 05:44 PM
No mecca - no haj - no salvation. A dead religion within a generation.

Yep ... have a meteor from the heavens swoop down and blow apart that little meteor that they worship during the haj - circiling 7 times in their white robes while they trample each other to death .... blow up one meteor with another one.

Gotta' love it! :p

PoliCon
10-09-2008, 04:38 PM
Oh, silly twat: Reference the Dome of the Rock as the place from which the Prophet ascended into heaven for a real education.:rolleyes:The dome is peripheral to the faith. There is no requirement to visit that site and it only gained prominence since the advent of Zionism. Islam requires that each man make or send a proxy to make a pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in his life. No mecca= no haj - no haj = no salvation.

jay howard
10-10-2008, 02:20 PM
The dome is peripheral to the faith. There is no requirement to visit that site and it only gained prominence since the advent of Zionism. Islam requires that each man make or send a proxy to make a pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in his life. No mecca= no haj - no haj = no salvation.

Yea. That makes sense. I'm sure if their central holy site blew up or disintegrated or whatever, they would all forget about Islam. Just like when the Romans killed Jesus, that sure put an end to Christianity, didn't it?



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Aaron Burr
10-10-2008, 02:40 PM
You have to admit though, that when the Romans crucified someone, they crucified the hell out of them.

GrumpyOldLady
10-10-2008, 04:48 PM
Yea. That makes sense. I'm sure if their central holy site blew up or disintegrated or whatever, they would all forget about Islam. Just like when the Romans killed Jesus, that sure put an end to Christianity, didn't it?

Two different religions and two different belief systems.
The previous poster is correct. MECCA is the heart and soul of Islam.
Jerusalem is NOT the heart and soul of Christianity. Christ is.

Two different things entirely.

LogansPapa
10-10-2008, 04:56 PM
Jerusalem is NOT the heart and soul of Christianity.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01oM1j17Hr7xl/610x.jpg

FlaGator
10-10-2008, 07:14 PM
Two different religions and two different belief systems.
The previous poster is correct. MECCA is the heart and soul of Islam.
Jerusalem is NOT the heart and soul of Christianity. Christ is.

Two different things entirely.

I think that you may be underestimating the power that a person's beliefs holds for them. The destruction of Mecca in this fashion would, I suspect, would be worked in to their belief system and the Haj would still take place to the ruins of Mecca.

Goldwater
10-10-2008, 09:01 PM
Two different religions and two different belief systems.
The previous poster is correct. MECCA is the heart and soul of Islam.
Jerusalem is NOT the heart and soul of Christianity. Christ is.

Two different things entirely.

How can a Christian hope for the destruction of thousands of people? A lot (most) of them not posing a danger or wishing harm to you.

FlaGator
10-10-2008, 09:16 PM
How can a Christian hope for the destruction of thousands of people? A lot (most) of them not posing a danger or wishing harm to you.

According to Christ, even if they are posing a danger we are to pray for their salvation and wish God's blessings on them. Some of Christ's teachings are a hard lesson.

Goldwater
10-10-2008, 09:18 PM
According to Christ, even if they are posing a danger we are to pray for their salvation and wish God's blessings on them. Some of Christ's teachings are a hard lesson.

This is my point, it is hypocritical.

Sonnabend
10-10-2008, 09:37 PM
Just looke out window/

World still there.

Another panic merchant story to add to the list.

GrumpyOldLady
10-11-2008, 09:23 AM
How can a Christian hope for the destruction of thousands of people? A lot (most) of them not posing a danger or wishing harm to you.

I didn't call for the destruction of 'thousands of people'.

Read the story. The asteroid was only 15 feet across.

I said it was too bad it didn't land on MECCA - on that other asteroid (meteor) that they worship during the HAJ. It's just a freak'n rock.


The destruction of Mecca in this fashion would, I suspect, would be worked in to their belief system and the Haj would still take place to the ruins of Mecca.

You are probably right. Some religious myth would be created to surround this event and it would become part of their mythical-religious belief system. Yep. You are probably right. That's what happens, isn't it?

LogansPapa
10-11-2008, 09:27 AM
Why does she remind me of the shaky old lady with the microphone yammering at John McCain about "the Arab" yesterday, in her utter ignorance of another culture?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

3rd-try
10-11-2008, 12:44 PM
What a thread! Trying to take the OP turn GOL into the anti-Christ. Damn! Ease up a little. Get over this knee-jerk "I'm offended every chance I get" attitude.
She's talking about a ROCK!!!


Besides, LP is the anti-Christ.

LogansPapa
10-11-2008, 01:00 PM
Besides, LP is the anti-Christ.


:mad: shit - they're on to me! :mad:

LogansPapa
10-11-2008, 03:00 PM
You are probably right. Some religious myth would be created to surround this event and it would become part of their mythical-religious belief system. Yep. You are probably right. That's what happens, isn't it?

Yep - it sure does.;)

Did a meteor over central Italy in AD 312 change the course of Roman and Christian history?

It was just before a decisive battle for control of Rome and the empire that Constantine saw a blazing light cross the sky and attributed his subsequent victory to divine help from a Christian God.

Constantine went on to consolidate his grip on power and ordered that persecution of Christians cease and their religion receive official status.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3013146.stm

Eyelids
10-11-2008, 03:13 PM
Why does she remind me of the shaky old lady with the microphone yammering at John McCain about "the Arab" yesterday, in her utter ignorance of another culture?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I got the exact same impression, when people say "ignorant American pig" GOL is the kind of person they refer to.

Zathras
10-11-2008, 03:20 PM
I got the exact same impression, when people say "ignorant American pig" GOL is the kind of person they refer to.

No Blinky, that would be you that they're talking about. They're just polite enought not to say it to your face.

Eyelids
10-11-2008, 03:30 PM
No Blinky, that would be you that they're talking about. They're just polite enought not to say it to your face.

Why are you still following me around? Do you have a crush on me Zathras?

Zathras
10-11-2008, 03:36 PM
Why are you still following me around? Do you have a crush on me Zathras?

Because I like showing what piece of shit you are Blinky. Oh and the only "crush" I'd like to see on you is a 10 ton weight from 10 floors up.

GrumpyOldLady
10-11-2008, 03:38 PM
Why does she remind me of the shaky old lady with the microphone yammering at John McCain about "the Arab" yesterday, in her utter ignorance of another culture?:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Why? Because you are a moron. If that's what you think, then you are a moron.

THE FACT IS they worship a damn rock. It was a meteor that fell to earth but they think it's some kind of sign from God. They all go on pilgrimage to worship the damn thing - circling it 7 times - trampling people to death in the process.

If another rock fell from the sky and squished their precious little pilgrimage rock then it would do them a hell of a lot of good.


I got the exact same impression, when people say "ignorant American pig" GOL is the kind of person they refer to.
Fuck you. I'm a hell of a lot smarter then you are.



Did a meteor over central Italy in AD 312 change the course of Roman and Christian history?

MOST LIKELY

PoliCon
10-12-2008, 02:13 PM
Yea. That makes sense. I'm sure if their central holy site blew up or disintegrated or whatever, they would all forget about Islam. Just like when the Romans killed Jesus, that sure put an end to Christianity, didn't it?



.Are you paying attention? Christianity does not require anyone to meet Jesus physically in the flesh to be saved. ISLAM however does require that any muslim go to Mecca and make a haj. They MUST MUST MUST go there and play ring around the rosies around a big rock to be saved. THAT is a core tenant of their faith. It is something that MUST MUST MUST be done for them to be saved. Without the haj - they can only achieve salvation through martyrdom. So - like I said - an extinct religion within a generation.

PoliCon
10-12-2008, 02:25 PM
I think that you may be underestimating the power that a person's beliefs holds for them. The destruction of Mecca in this fashion would, I suspect, would be worked in to their belief system and the Haj would still take place to the ruins of Mecca.
Can't be. They need Mecca. They especially need the Kaaba.

FlaGator
10-12-2008, 04:43 PM
Can't be. They need Mecca. They especially need the Kaaba.

You underestimate what belief can overcome.

LibraryLady
10-12-2008, 04:56 PM
Are you paying attention? Christianity does not require anyone to meet Jesus physically in the flesh to be saved. ISLAM however does require that any muslim go to Mecca and make a haj. They MUST MUST MUST go there and play ring around the rosies around a big rock to be saved. THAT is a core tenant of their faith. It is something that MUST MUST MUST be done for them to be saved. Without the haj - they can only achieve salvation through martyrdom. So - like I said - an extinct religion within a generation.


DO you mean pillars or tenets?

And it says if you are healthy and financially able.

five pillars of islam


Shahadah, profession of faith, is the first pillar of Islam. Muslims bear witness to the oneness of God by reciting the creed "There is no God but God and Muhammad is the Messenger of God." This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim's complete acceptance of and total commitment to Islam.

Salah, prayer, is the second pillar. The Islamic faith is based on the belief that individuals have a direct relationship with God. The world's Muslims turn individually and collectively to Makkah, Islam's holiest city, to offer five daily prayers at dawn, noon, mid-afternoon, sunset and evening. In addition, Friday congregational service is also required. Although salah can he performed alone, it is meritorious to perform it with another or with a group. It is permissible to pray at home, at work, or even outdoors; however it is recommended that Muslims perform salah in a mosque.

Zakat, almsgiving, is the third pillar. Social responsibility is considered part of one's service to God; the obligatory act of zakat enshrines this duty. Zakat prescribes payment of fixed proportions of a Muslim's possessions for the welfare of the entire community and in particular for its neediest members. It is equal to 2.5 percent of an individual's total net worth, excluding obligations and family expenses.

Sawm, fasting during the holy month of Ramadan, is the fourth pillar of Islam. Ordained in the Holy Qur'an, the fast is an act of deep personal worship in which Muslims seek a richer perception of God. Fasting is also an exercise in self-control whereby one's sensitivity is heightened to the sufferings of the poor. Ramadan, the month during which the Holy Qur'an was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, begins with the sighting of the new moon, after which abstention from eating, drinking and other sensual pleasures is obligatory from dawn to sunset. Ramadan is also a joyful month. Muslims break their fast at sunset with a special meal, iftar, perform additional nocturnal worship, tarawih, after evening prayer; and throng the streets in moods that are festive and communal. The end of Ramadan is observed by three days of celebration called Eid Al-Fitr, the feast of the breaking of the fast. Customarily, it is a time for family reunion and the favored holiday for children who receive new clothing and gifts.

Hajj, the pilgrimage to Makkah, is the fifth pillar and the most significant manifestation of Islamic faith and unity in the world. For those Muslims who are physically and financially able to make the journey to Makkah, the Hajj is a once in a lifetime duty that is the peak of their religious life. The Hajj is a remarkable spiritual gathering of over two million Muslims from all over the world to the holy city. In performing the Hajj, a pilgrim follows the order of ritual that the Prophet Muhammad performed during his last pilgrimage.

PoliCon
10-12-2008, 05:17 PM
DO you mean pillars or tenets?

And it says if you are healthy and financially able.

five pillars of islamand if you cannot yourself go - you send a surrogate. The poor pool their money and send one of their own as surrogate for the whole village or family or unit. It still MUST be done.

LibraryLady
10-12-2008, 06:57 PM
never heard that in all my time in the Middle east.

I couldn't get past the Eucharist being the body and blood of Christ.:o

PoliCon
10-12-2008, 08:20 PM
never heard that in all my time in the Middle east.

I couldn't get past the Eucharist being the body and blood of Christ.:o I've done some study in the field. And I can and do believe in the Body and Blood.

GrumpyOldLady
10-13-2008, 06:59 AM
never heard that in all my time in the Middle east.
I couldn't get past the Eucharist being the body and blood of Christ.:o

http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/a3.html

I actually saw the eucharistic miracle of Betania Venezuela. I didn't see it happen (although I have a video of it happening), but I saw it after the fact - behind glass.