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megimoo
06-12-2008, 11:15 PM
Supreme Court: In a historic first, the right to habeas corpus has been bestowed upon prisoners of war in wartime. Five justices gave terrorists a new weapon to kill more Americans with: our own Constitution.

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John Paul Stevens,Anthony McLeod Kennedy,David Hackett Souter,Ruth Bader Ginsburg,Stephen Gerald Breyer .

The court held that foreign enemy combatants at the Guantanamo Bay U.S. base in Cuba have the right to pursue habeas challenges to their detention in U.S. courts.

It is unprecedented in the history of U.S. law, and for all the soaring rhetoric in Justice Anthony Kennedy's opinion that "the laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times," the fact is that Gitmo detainees already had the equivalent of habeas corpus rights.

As Chief Justice John Roberts noted in his dissent, those terrorist POWs enjoy "the most generous set of procedural protections ever afforded aliens detained by this country as enemy combatants."

The real issue, according to Roberts, writing also for Justices Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, "is whether the system the political branches designed protects whatever rights the detainees may possess. If so, there is no need for any additional process, whether called 'habeas' or something else."

But it was left to Justice Scalia, in a separate dissent also joined by the other three 'no' votes, to describe Boumediene's disastrous real-world consequences: It "will make the war harder on us," Scalia declared, reading from the bench. "It will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed."

Of detainees already released from Gitmo, Scalia pointed out that one "masterminded the kidnapping of two Chinese dam workers, one of whom was later shot to death when used as a human shield against Pakistani commandoes." Another "promptly resumed his post as a senior Taliban commander and murdered a United Nations engineer and three Afghan soldiers. . . . Still another murdered an Afghan judge." And last month came news that another detainee committed a suicide bombing against Iraqi soldiers in Mosul.

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The decision "sets our military commanders the impossible task of proving to a civilian court, under whatever standards this Court devises in the future, that evidence supports the confinement of each and every enemy prisoner." He concluded: "The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today."

The nation has the power to undo such self-destructive court decisions by electing a president and senators who will place jurists on the Supreme Court who respect wartime laws passed by elected representatives of an American people seeking to protect themselves. It's never been more imperative than after Wednesday's ruling that that happen in November.


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AmPat
06-13-2008, 04:56 AM
I didn't go to Law School but it seems to me that the CONSTITUTION of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was meant for AMERICANS. I'm unaware of any RIGHTS afforded to TERRORIST ENEMY COMBATANTS.

Constitutionally Speaking
06-13-2008, 07:07 AM
The decision "sets our military commanders the impossible task of proving to a civilian court, under whatever standards this Court devises in the future, that evidence supports the confinement of each and every enemy prisoner." He concluded: "The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today."


Scalia is wrong here. The Nation may NOT survive long enough to know what hit us. This is why I am holding my nose and voting for McCain.

We have ONE last chance to get rid of these radicals on the court. There is absolutely no way Obama will appoint pro-constitution Judges.

McCain will.

gator
06-13-2008, 07:40 AM
This will probably go down in history as the worse Supreme Court decison of all time. Providing habeas corpus rights to enemy combatants is absolutely stupid and four of the Justices knew it.

Our Founding Fathers knew that assholes in the government would get the stupids from time to time and that is why we have the Second Amendment, to make it right.

gator
06-13-2008, 07:44 AM
We have ONE last chance to get rid of these radicals on the court. There is absolutely no way Obama will appoint pro-constitution Judges.

McCain will.

Don't get your hopes up too much young man, McCain is a compromiser. He loves to compromise with the Liberals. He does it all the time and don't think he is not capable of doing it with SCOTUS nominees, especially with a strong Democrat Senate.

Constitutionally Speaking
06-13-2008, 03:42 PM
Don't get your hopes up too much young man, McCain is a compromiser. He loves to compromise with the Liberals. He does it all the time and don't think he is not capable of doing it with SCOTUS nominees, especially with a strong Democrat Senate.


I hope on this issue you are wrong. If we cannot get the court restored to some semblance of sanity, we might as well be French.

Molon Labe
06-13-2008, 04:52 PM
I hope on this issue you are wrong. If we cannot get the court restored to some semblance of sanity, we might as well be French.

I don't see McCain gettingi it right. We asked for him.

Constitutionally Speaking
06-13-2008, 06:57 PM
I don't see McCain gettingi it right. We asked for him.

It is one thing that I think McCain will actually be OK on.