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Apocalypse
07-05-2014, 08:29 PM
BERKELEY (CBS SF) — The city of Berkeley will require medical marijuana dispensaries to give away two percent of the amount of cannabis they sell each year free to low-income patients.


The City Council voted unanimously at Tuesday’s meeting to amend the city’s medical pot rules, which would also allow for a fourth dispensary in Berkeley.

“Basically, the city council wants to make sure that low-income, homeless, indigent folks have access to their medical marijuana, their medicine,” said Berkeley City Councilmember Darryl Moore.

“We think this is the responsible thing to do for those less fortunate in our community,” said Moore.

From the CBS San Francisco affiliate, KCBS (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/07/02/berkeley-plans-to-provide-free-weed-for-low-income-patients-marijuana-pot-collectives-dispensaries/):

RobJohnson
07-05-2014, 09:04 PM
And now it starts........

Lanie
07-05-2014, 11:46 PM
It's for patients. I don't see the problem.

Apocalypse
07-05-2014, 11:52 PM
It's for patients. I don't see the problem.

The fact that one can get a prescription for med. Marijuana in Berkeley for a hangnail means that any doper with a bogus prescription claiming hardship will now get free weed to get high.

JohnnyJeb
07-06-2014, 09:40 AM
Next up....It's for the chillreen.

SVPete
07-06-2014, 11:55 AM
I'd probably find this much more amusing were these social parasites not becoming ubiquitous! There are probably a half dozen to a dozen (or more!) "collectives within 5 miles of my home! That's potentially a lot of impaired idiots driving 1-2 ton vehicles close to my home! I suppose there is some slight comfort that government greed and generosity with OPM could accidentally recriminalize dope by taxing-and-regulating it back into criminality.

SarasotaRepub
07-06-2014, 12:04 PM
their medicine

BullShit. :smile-new:

SVPete
07-06-2014, 01:13 PM
BullShit. :smile-new:

"Medical Marijuana", like "Industrial Hemp", is a Trojan Horse to create a backdoor-quasi-legalization where the potheads cannot get legalization through the ballot box or legislation (not even in CA, and they have tried multiple times). "Prescriptions" and complicit "doctors" make enforcement extremely difficult, and "Industrial Hemp", while supposedly non-intoxicating is difficult to discern from marijuana, also making law enforcement much more difficult (Plan A Excuse: "Dude, it's industrial hemp, not marijuana!" Plan B Excuse: "Dude, I didn't know! I thought the seeds I bought were for industrial hemp!).

Rockntractor
07-06-2014, 01:26 PM
"Medical Marijuana", like "Industrial Hemp", is a Trojan Horse to create a backdoor-quasi-legalization where the potheads cannot get legalization through the ballot box or legislation (not even in CA, and they have tried multiple times). "Prescriptions" and complicit "doctors" make enforcement extremely difficult, and "Industrial Hemp", while supposedly non-intoxicating is difficult to discern from marijuana, also making law enforcement much more difficult (Plan A Excuse: "Dude, it's industrial hemp, not marijuana!" Plan B Excuse: "Dude, I didn't know! I thought the seeds I bought were for industrial hemp!).

It also cross pollinates with the smoking marijuana destroying it's potency, if you have rope hemp growing in an area it is next to impossible to grow good smoking weed.
A little bird told me that many years ago in my distant past.:biggrin-new:

Elspeth
07-06-2014, 03:43 PM
Meanwhile, in LA:


Los Angeles welcomes first medical marijuana farmer’s market
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/05/los-angeles-welcomes-first-medical-marijuana-farmers-market/

It looks like any other American farmer’s market. Buyers sniff the wares, test weights and compare, while vendors tout their product. But the only produce on offer is cannabis — organic, of course.

“We have lollipops for $7, chocolate bars to help you relax for $13, and ‘cosmic dust,’” said Bill Harrison, a seller who also stocks plain old smokable marijuana.

The Heritage Farmer’s Market — held over the July 4th long weekend — was the first of its kind in Los Angeles. Despite the scorching sun, the line to get in stretched hundreds of yards (meters).

The crowd was diverse and multigenerational, interspersed with hippies, rockers, hipsters and some nondescript suburban types.

But they all have at least one thing in common — they all have, as required for entry, a doctor’s prescription.

In California, marijuana is only legal for medicinal purposes. For recreational use, possession of less than an ounce (28 grams) could result in a fine. Larger amounts can trigger criminal charges.

Edwynn Delgado knows the laws by heart: “for medical use, you are allowed up to four ounces at home, but I’d like to bring back home more today,” he joked....

Lanie
07-06-2014, 03:53 PM
Meanwhile, in LA:


Los Angeles welcomes first medical marijuana farmer’s market
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/05/los-angeles-welcomes-first-medical-marijuana-farmers-market/

It looks like any other American farmer’s market. Buyers sniff the wares, test weights and compare, while vendors tout their product. But the only produce on offer is cannabis — organic, of course.

“We have lollipops for $7, chocolate bars to help you relax for $13, and ‘cosmic dust,’” said Bill Harrison, a seller who also stocks plain old smokable marijuana.

The Heritage Farmer’s Market — held over the July 4th long weekend — was the first of its kind in Los Angeles. Despite the scorching sun, the line to get in stretched hundreds of yards (meters).

The crowd was diverse and multigenerational, interspersed with hippies, rockers, hipsters and some nondescript suburban types.

But they all have at least one thing in common — they all have, as required for entry, a doctor’s prescription.

In California, marijuana is only legal for medicinal purposes. For recreational use, possession of less than an ounce (28 grams) could result in a fine. Larger amounts can trigger criminal charges.

Edwynn Delgado knows the laws by heart: “for medical use, you are allowed up to four ounces at home, but I’d like to bring back home more today,” he joked....

Cool.

I really don't see the big deal. Even the ultra conservative Republicans in my state have
started making medical marijuana legal. How is it any worse than morphine or some of the other stuff we're given?

And why is it that people can fill their lungs with tar (and endanger those around them at times) using tobacco for recreational purposes, but others can't use medical marijuana? Why can people go to bars and get drunk off their ass (endangering the roads later), but others can't have medical marijuana? I call bullcrap on that.

RobJohnson
07-06-2014, 07:01 PM
It's for patients. I don't see the problem.

Marinol is already available for patients from any licensed pharmacy in the United States with a doctor's prescription. The problem is, it won't get patients high.

There is also now a generic available.

http://dying.about.com/od/symptommanagement/f/marinol_vs_MJ.htm

RobJohnson
07-06-2014, 07:16 PM
Cool.

I really don't see the big deal. Even the ultra conservative Republicans in my state have
started making medical marijuana legal. How is it any worse than morphine or some of the other stuff we're given?

And why is it that people can fill their lungs with tar (and endanger those around them at times) using tobacco for recreational purposes, but others can't use medical marijuana? Why can people go to bars and get drunk off their ass (endangering the roads later), but others can't have medical marijuana? I call bullcrap on that.

Nevada voted to legalize it for medical purposes many years ago (circa 2002) and they are just now moving forward on licenses for dispensing it and growing it. Just a couple years ago their was a Federal raid on a few places selling it to medical patients, as it's still against federal law.

It's a tricky business as some lawyers won't represent business owners that have anything to do with the weed trade, as they don't want to be disbarred in Federal courts, and the same is with the banks that are FDIC regulated, so most places only take cash.

In NV they did pass a regulation that any LLC that was connected with a casino could not become a dispensary, in my town a large health care group is applying to dispense. It costs big bucks just for the application fees, and there are several steps, each costing several thousand dollars, with no guarantee you will get approved. In Las Vegas they had almost 200 applications, with a $5000 application fee, for 4 available permits..

Rick
07-07-2014, 01:49 AM
It also cross pollinates with the smoking marijuana destroying it's potency, if you have rope hemp growing in an area it is next to impossible to grow good smoking weed.
A little bird told me that many years ago in my distant past.:biggrin-new:

Thanks for the tip, Rock. I might just have a use for that one.

RobJohnson
07-07-2014, 07:53 AM
It also cross pollinates with the smoking marijuana destroying it's potency, if you have rope hemp growing in an area it is next to impossible to grow good smoking weed.
A little bird told me that many years ago in my distant past.:biggrin-new:

True. My county in IL made the cover of High Times for the marijania capital of the US. But it was widely grown during WWII for rope for the war ships. Any one trying to grow weed between corn rows would just end up with the same ditch weed, no matter how good their seeds.

The article was good for the State Police. They would catch people harvesting U Haul trailer loads of the stuff by using helicopters and neighborhood watch. Their intent was to take it back down south and use it to "cut" the good stuff. (What ever that means :dunno-smiley-emotic) Local small town cops would drive through the parking lots of the local motel next to the interstate and run plates at random and run the dogs around vehicles. Fucking police state. :biggrin-new:

I remember when detasseling corn as a kid, someone took a huge stalk of weed and stuck it in the front grill of the school bus that hauled us out to the fields and picked us up at the school....we were driving around with weed as a hood ornament. It was funny until the bus driver took a detour to the police station. The back section of the bus looked like Cheech and Chong were passengers.

noonwitch
07-08-2014, 12:21 PM
"Medical Marijuana", like "Industrial Hemp", is a Trojan Horse to create a backdoor-quasi-legalization where the potheads cannot get legalization through the ballot box or legislation (not even in CA, and they have tried multiple times). "Prescriptions" and complicit "doctors" make enforcement extremely difficult, and "Industrial Hemp", while supposedly non-intoxicating is difficult to discern from marijuana, also making law enforcement much more difficult (Plan A Excuse: "Dude, it's industrial hemp, not marijuana!" Plan B Excuse: "Dude, I didn't know! I thought the seeds I bought were for industrial hemp!).


That's pretty much Michigan's Medical Marijuana law-everyone over 40 has some kind of condition that makes them eligible. Arthritis, menopause, pretty much anything that indicates middle or older age. It's not cheap, though. Patients have to pay $100 for the certification, and buy the weed at a different location from the clinic.

It's probably going to be all-out legalized at some point in the near future in Michigan. I really don't have a problem with that, as it's more honest than the current situation. Also, it will be taxed then and maybe they can give a raise to all of us public servants with the weed revenue.

The weird thing here is that industrial hemp continues to be illegal. I would favor legalizing the cultivation of hemp as much-it's a fiber that can be made into clothes that hippies will buy. Having a hemp production and processing industry could be good for Detroit-not the only answer to it's problems, but there is no one answer. Basing the local economy on one industry is a major part of the current and past problems.

RobJohnson
07-08-2014, 12:30 PM
The weird thing here is that industrial hemp continues to be illegal. I would favor legalizing the cultivation of hemp as much-it's a fiber that can be made into clothes that hippies will buy. Having a hemp production and processing industry could be good for Detroit-not the only answer to it's problems, but there is no one answer. Basing the local economy on one industry is a major part of the current and past problems.

I agree.

A lot of cosmetic products and shampoo are made with hemp and seem to be popular as well.