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Phillygirl
06-13-2008, 09:21 AM
Oklahoma police said Thursday that they've interviewed a witness who drove by two girls minutes before they were shot dead along a country road.

"We can let you know — and the shooters out there — that we do have a witness that was there shortly before the shooting," Special Agent Ben Rosser of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation said at an afternoon news conference.


His agency has interviewed the male witness and believes his story to be credible, Rosser said.

Rosser said it appeared that the gunman or gunmen used two guns to kill both Taylor Paschal-Placker, 13, and Skyla Whitaker, 11, on Sunday on County Line Road in Weleetka, Okla.

"Each girl was shot with both calibers," Rosser said. "In other words, if we have two shooters then each of the shooters shot each girl — if we have two shooters."

Rosser stressed that it still isn't known whether there were multiple shooters, and investigators still don't have a motive, suspects or persons of interest in the case. Police returned to the scene of the crime Thursday to comb a riverbed and the area where the girls were found.

Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,365902,00.html)

SAMSPADE
06-13-2008, 10:02 AM
Oklahoma police said Thursday that they've interviewed a witness who drove by two girls minutes before they were shot dead along a country road.

"We can let you know — and the shooters out there — that we do have a witness that was there shortly before the shooting," Special Agent Ben Rosser of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation said at an afternoon news conference.


His agency has interviewed the male witness and believes his story to be credible, Rosser said.

Rosser said it appeared that the gunman or gunmen used two guns to kill both Taylor Paschal-Placker, 13, and Skyla Whitaker, 11, on Sunday on County Line Road in Weleetka, Okla.

"Each girl was shot with both calibers," Rosser said. "In other words, if we have two shooters then each of the shooters shot each girl — if we have two shooters."

Rosser stressed that it still isn't known whether there were multiple shooters, and investigators still don't have a motive, suspects or persons of interest in the case. Police returned to the scene of the crime Thursday to comb a riverbed and the area where the girls were found.

Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,365902,00.html)
Sounds like this was just a joy killing with no other purpose except see someone die.

Phillygirl
06-13-2008, 10:11 AM
Sounds like this was just a joy killing with no other purpose except see someone die.

It's horrible. I can not imagine those poor parents and what they are going through.

LibraryLady
06-13-2008, 10:19 AM
Sounds like this was just a joy killing with no other purpose except see someone die.


Locals who described an increase in methamphetamine use in the community have theorized the girls may have witnessed a drug deal.

Supposedly the road they were on is travelled very little.

Sonnabend
06-13-2008, 10:30 AM
Supposedly the road they were on is travelled very little.

Which is possibly why the druggies chose it...the kids turned up and....:(

megimoo
06-13-2008, 10:56 AM
Oklahoma police said Thursday that they've interviewed a witness who drove by two girls minutes before they were shot dead along a country road.

"We can let you know — and the shooters out there — that we do have a witness that was there shortly before the shooting," Special Agent Ben Rosser of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation said at an afternoon news conference.


His agency has interviewed the male witness and believes his story to be credible, Rosser said.

Rosser said it appeared that the gunman or gunmen used two guns to kill both Taylor Paschal-Placker, 13, and Skyla Whitaker, 11, on Sunday on County Line Road in Weleetka, Okla.

"Each girl was shot with both calibers," Rosser said. "In other words, if we have two shooters then each of the shooters shot each girl — if we have two shooters."

Rosser stressed that it still isn't known whether there were multiple shooters, and investigators still don't have a motive, suspects or persons of interest in the case. Police returned to the scene of the crime Thursday to comb a riverbed and the area where the girls were found.

Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,365902,00.html)
There is in America I believe,at least one random variant of Psychopathic insanity caused by an genetic defect .

A defect that drives people to kill at random .Due to this defect these people are no longer human,if they ever really were human .There also an estimated one hundred thousand serial murderers who are at large .Some are opportunity killers like the creature who killed these two little girls alone along a road, others kill several times then stop,never to kill again !Some think they are much too clever to be caught and continue until they are eventually brought to justice.
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Jerry Brudos - Portland Oregon 1968
Brudos is one of the most shocking serial killers ever and the subject of the book The 'Lust Killer'. He abducted, tortured & mutilated young women in his garage, right under the noses of his wife and children. An analysis of the psychological factors that created this monster.
..........................
Ed Gein - Real Life Boogeyman
When Arthur Schley arrived at a Wisconsin farmhouse on the evening of 17 November 1957 he was in for a very nasty surprise…

Mr Schley, a sheriff from the nearby town of Plainfield, was investigating the disappearance of 58-year-old shopkeeper Bernice Worden. Evidence from her store, a receipt found on the floor near a trail of blood and a missing cash till, had led him to the farmhouse
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America’s First Known Serial Killers: The Harps, Big and Little.

Big Harp and Little Harp left home as young men in 1775, aiming to become overseers of slaves in Virginia. Career plans diverted by the American Revolution, the Harps instead became Tory outlaws in a gang that roved the North Carolina countryside, raping Farmer's daughters, pillaging livestock and crops, and burning farmhouses. In the attempted kidnapping of one young girl by a Tory rape gang, Little Harp was shot and wounded by local Patriot Captain James Wood.

In 1780, the British took the Tory irregulars and their Cherokee allies into their ranks. The Harps fought under Tarleton's command at King’s Mountain, near the Carolinas’ border, in October; in the Battle of Blackstocks in November, and in January 1781 in the Battle of Cowpens. Shortly after Cowpens, the Harps left the army and joined up with their Cherokee confederates, taking part in the Indian raid on Station Bluff, now Nashville, Tenn. They soon returned to North Carolina, where they kidnapped Captain Wood’s daughter, Susan, and another local girl, Maria Davidson. The kidnapped women would serve as wives to the Harps until the bitter end.

The Harps took the women across the Appalachians to the Cherokee-Chickamauga town of Nickjack, in the vicinity of what is now Chattanooga, Tenn. Along the way, a member of the gang, Moses Doss, objected to the brutal treatment of the women and the Harps killed him. The Harps, with their wives, lived in the Indian village at Nickjack for over a decade. In that time, they participated in British-backed Indian raids on Kentucky settlers west of the mountains, such as the Battle of Blue Licks in 1782. Later they took part in the Indian attack on Bledsoe's Lick in Tennessee. The night before the Americans finally wiped out Nickjack in 1794, the Harps received warning and managed to escape with their women before the battle.

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http://americanserialkillers.com/articles/
http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/killersatlarge.html

noonwitch
06-13-2008, 11:49 AM
There is in America I believe,at least one random variant of Psychopathic insanity caused by an genetic defect .

A defect that drives people to kill at random .Due to this defect these people are no longer human,if they ever really were human .There also an estimated one hundred thousand serial murderers who are at large .Some are opportunity killers like the creature who killed these two little girls alone along a road, others kill several times then stop,never to kill again !Some think they are much too clever to be caught and continue until they are eventually brought to justice.
......................................
Jerry Brudos - Portland Oregon 1968
Brudos is one of the most shocking serial killers ever and the subject of the book The 'Lust Killer'. He abducted, tortured & mutilated young women in his garage, right under the noses of his wife and children. An analysis of the psychological factors that created this monster.
..........................
Ed Gein - Real Life Boogeyman
When Arthur Schley arrived at a Wisconsin farmhouse on the evening of 17 November 1957 he was in for a very nasty surprise…

Mr Schley, a sheriff from the nearby town of Plainfield, was investigating the disappearance of 58-year-old shopkeeper Bernice Worden. Evidence from her store, a receipt found on the floor near a trail of blood and a missing cash till, had led him to the farmhouse
................................
America’s First Known Serial Killers: The Harps, Big and Little.

Big Harp and Little Harp left home as young men in 1775, aiming to become overseers of slaves in Virginia. Career plans diverted by the American Revolution, the Harps instead became Tory outlaws in a gang that roved the North Carolina countryside, raping Farmer's daughters, pillaging livestock and crops, and burning farmhouses. In the attempted kidnapping of one young girl by a Tory rape gang, Little Harp was shot and wounded by local Patriot Captain James Wood.

In 1780, the British took the Tory irregulars and their Cherokee allies into their ranks. The Harps fought under Tarleton's command at King’s Mountain, near the Carolinas’ border, in October; in the Battle of Blackstocks in November, and in January 1781 in the Battle of Cowpens. Shortly after Cowpens, the Harps left the army and joined up with their Cherokee confederates, taking part in the Indian raid on Station Bluff, now Nashville, Tenn. They soon returned to North Carolina, where they kidnapped Captain Wood’s daughter, Susan, and another local girl, Maria Davidson. The kidnapped women would serve as wives to the Harps until the bitter end.

The Harps took the women across the Appalachians to the Cherokee-Chickamauga town of Nickjack, in the vicinity of what is now Chattanooga, Tenn. Along the way, a member of the gang, Moses Doss, objected to the brutal treatment of the women and the Harps killed him. The Harps, with their wives, lived in the Indian village at Nickjack for over a decade. In that time, they participated in British-backed Indian raids on Kentucky settlers west of the mountains, such as the Battle of Blue Licks in 1782. Later they took part in the Indian attack on Bledsoe's Lick in Tennessee. The night before the Americans finally wiped out Nickjack in 1794, the Harps received warning and managed to escape with their women before the battle.

..................................

http://americanserialkillers.com/articles/
http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/killersatlarge.html


That Harp story is something for a high school history class-not because of the crimes themselves, but how it all fits in around the Revolution. It's important for kids to be able to place events into the right historical period-nothing like a bloody murder to spike their interest in history.
I think that head injuries influence sociopathic and psychopathic behaviors-not in and of themselves, but as a crucial factor in impulse control. If someone is abused as a child (I don't mean spankings or even whippings with a belt/switch/whatever), odds are that some adult probably slammed his or her head into something at some point during childhood. That injury, even if it is never detected by a medical doctor at the time (because the kid wasn't brought in for treatment), coupled with violent and unstable role models, and you've got your sociopath.
I watch that show on ID, "Most Evil". What Dr. Stone does is fascinating, with the MRIs of criminals, and his complete neuropsych workups. Every once in a while, one of the criminals will be particularly cooperative with the process, too, so it can get really interesting in those cases.