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megimoo
10-13-2008, 11:24 PM
PBS, the most liberal network in America (funded, incidentally, by your tax dollars) is running a poll concerning Sarah Palin. Their question is: Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?


Since PBS and the liberal media will widely publicize the results, AFA has decided to run a poll concerning the qualifications of Barack Obama. http://www.afa.net/petitions/pbspoll/takesurvey.asp

Poll Question .Do you think Barack Obama is qualified to serve as President of the United States?
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Votes so far .10/13/2008 22:19 EST
Do you think Barack Obama is qualified to serve as President of the United States?
Yes 7,524
No 158,791
Not Sure 1,434


(results are updated every ten minutes

PoliCon
10-14-2008, 12:13 AM
link to the PBS poll - http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

megimoo
10-14-2008, 12:45 AM
link to the PBS poll - http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

That thing is rigged,Those numbers haven't changed in a week !

LogansPapa
10-14-2008, 11:27 AM
Lets get down to the meat of this Palin pick:

She was chosen because in previous elections John McCain alienated the Christian Right. No other reason, other than eye-candy - even though she ends up looking like the very young daughter to a man that waited until he was 50 to have her.

Evangelicals were laughed at by Rove and the "W" White House, on a regular bases, once Mr. Bush had gotten their votes. Really pissed off The Body and this was the only way McCain could get back into The Fold.

They’re already planning a bright and pure future for the nation, starting with the overturning of the right for a woman to control her body and hand that decision over to their holy jurisdiction.

But that’s just the beginning……..

Cold Warrior
10-14-2008, 12:02 PM
Lets get down to the meat of this Palin pick:

She was chosen because in previous elections John McCain alienated the Christian Right. No other reason, other than eye-candy - even though she ends up looking like the very young daughter to a man that waited until he was 50 to have her.

Evangelicals were laughed at by Rove and the "W" White House, on a regular bases, once Mr. Bush had gotten their votes. Really pissed off The Body and this was the only way McCain could get back into The Fold.

They’re already planning a bright and pure future for the nation, starting with the overturning of the right for a woman to control her body and hand that decision over to their holy jurisdiction.

But that’s just the beginning……..

It's interesting how the Palin selection has really accentuated the differences between the "Religious Right Republicans" and the "Establishment Northeastern Republicans." The former tend to value character over demonstrated ability and focus on social/cultural issues; the latter prize meritocracy (just like the French :eek:) while viewing social/cultural issues as secondary, if not unimportant and beyond the purview of government. The two groups have generally shared common ground on economics and national defense, but this election appears to be shattering what has been a very uneasy alliance.

This distinction is illustrated in a devastating article on Palin by a conservative writer in the City Journal (http://www.city-journal.org/)...


Gettin’ All Mavericky
Conservatives should not sacrifice standards for political advantage.
Heather Mac Donald
13 October 2008

I’m, like, man, I really don’t know if I’m ready for a vice president who goes: “My son’s, like: ‘Mom, I’m in the army now,’ and I’m, like: ‘I’m so proud.’” And who’s, like, “And [my son] goes, ‘O.K., well I’ll be praying.’ I’m like—total role reversal here, that’s what I’ve been telling him for 19 years.’” Or who goes, “This is a time when, man, politics have got to be put aside.” (As Alaska governor Sarah Palin told Sean Hannity, William Kristol, and Katie Couric.)

I know, it’s elitist to expect a candidate for president or vice president to speak like an adult. Sure, there are parents out there battling the “like” epidemic who might not appreciate having someone in the White House validating their 15-year-olds’ speech habits. But, hey: “Total role reversal here.” (Palin, of course, can sound adolescent even when she uses the right verbs, as when she disingenuously denied her snarky put-down of Joe Biden’s age while lauding herself as “you know, . . . the new energy, the new face, the new ideas.”) It’s even more elitist to expect a vice president to put together sentences that cohere into a minimally logical progression of thought. There was a time, however, when conservatives upheld adult standards—such as clarity of speech and thought—without apology, even in the face of the relentless downward pull of adolescent culture. But now, when a vice-presidential candidate talks like a teenager, mugs like an American Idol contestant, and traffics in syntactical dead-ends and non sequiturs, we are supposed to find her charming and authentic.

Palin’s defenders only indirectly acknowledge her awkward linguistic skills when they denounce “gotcha journalism.” They dismiss a by-now classic Palin paragraph as the product of Katie Couric’s unfair questioning. Couric had asked Palin whether, instead of buying up bad debt on Wall Street, government should help Americans pay their mortgages. To a Palinite, here was a true “gotcha” moment. The candidate responded:

That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with, we’re ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health-care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—it’s got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health-care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.

More... (http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon1013hm.html)

linda22003
10-14-2008, 12:05 PM
"Establishment Northeastern Republicans." .....prize meritocracy (just like the French :eek:) while viewing social/cultural issues as secondary, if not unimportant and beyond the purview of government.

Sign me up for THAT group. :)

patriot45
10-14-2008, 12:08 PM
Lets get down to the meat of this Palin pick:

She was chosen because in previous elections John McCain alienated the Christian Right. No other reason, other than eye-candy - even though she ends up looking like the very young daughter to a man that waited until he was 50 to have her.

Evangelicals were laughed at by Rove and the "W" White House, on a regular bases, once Mr. Bush had gotten their votes. Really pissed off The Body and this was the only way McCain could get back into The Fold.

They’re already planning a bright and pure future for the nation, starting with the overturning of the right for a woman to control her body and hand that decision over to their holy jurisdiction.But that’s just the beginning……..

Nice stretch, it needs to go back to being states decision, not a fed law.

patriot45
10-14-2008, 12:11 PM
Bottom line- We like her and Liberals do not! You got punked with McCains selection of VP. Eat it!

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i230/patriot45270/94203hmPL_w.jpg

PoliCon
10-14-2008, 12:14 PM
oh fun the fake conservatives are telling us about who we are again. You guys should really and seriously come out of the closet and admit that you are flaming democrats and go the hell back to DU.

Cold Warrior
10-14-2008, 12:27 PM
oh fun the fake conservatives are telling us about who we are again. You guys should really and seriously come out of the closet and admit that you are flaming democrats and go the hell back to DU.

"Your're either with us or with the terrorists." Jeez, what a mentality.

You mean all those other faux conservatives like George Will? If you think my characterization of the split or the nature of each faction in the Republican party is in error, please share your analysis rather than simply hurling names and innuendo.

BadCat
10-14-2008, 07:56 PM
There are certainly differences in the views of the "Northeastern Republicans" and the "Religious Right Republicans", but Hussien Obama is such a threat to ANY type of conservatism in America, that a conservative of any stripe, must vote against him.

Cold Warrior
10-14-2008, 08:00 PM
There are certainly differences in the views of the "Northeastern Republicans" and the "Religious Right Republicans", but Hussien Obama is such a threat to ANY type of conservatism in America, that a conservative of any stripe, must vote against him.

And I will as well. I simply won't vote for an ignorant hick from the backwoods whose only virtue is that she energizes the whacky-wacky vote.

LogansPapa
10-14-2008, 08:04 PM
And I will as well. I simply won't vote for an ignorant hick from the backwoods whose only virtue is that she energizes the whacky-wacky vote.

You mean like this one?

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-10/42851306.jpg

Emeraldsun
10-14-2008, 08:09 PM
Oh My Gosh!!! Policon; you were not kidding when you [welcomed me here] and warned me about the secret democraps that like to hide out on this forum!! WOW!!

BadCat
10-14-2008, 08:13 PM
Oh My Gosh!!! Policon; you were not kidding when you [welcomed me here] and warned me about the secret democraps that like to hide out on this forum!! WOW!!

Secret? Hardly.

LogansPapa
10-14-2008, 08:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOU9xZ4zcss

Cold Warrior
10-14-2008, 08:14 PM
You mean like this one?

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-10/42851306.jpg

I saw that and thought that McCain handled it very well. Unlike some here (and the DUmmies in the opposite situation), I don't believe that this whacko was a [DNC or RNC, pick one] plant (I'm not stupid). However, this type of person doesn't put me off from voting for a candidate, as there are lots of them out there.

However, this type of person definitely does preclude my vote for a candidate...


http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/0/2008/06/26/370x278/sarah_palin_800112201.jpg

LogansPapa
10-14-2008, 08:16 PM
Oh My Gosh!!! Policon; you were not kidding when you [welcomed me here] and warned me about the secret democraps that like to hide out on this forum!! WOW!!

Conservative Underground
The forum where liberal and conservatives and come together. :)

Cold Warrior
10-14-2008, 08:17 PM
Oh My Gosh!!! Policon; you were not kidding when you [welcomed me here] and warned me about the secret democraps that like to hide out on this forum!! WOW!!

If you're refering to me, you're demonstrating your ignorance. I was one of the few McCain supporters here during the primaries and I will not be voting Democrat. However, I won't vote for Annie Oakley either.

Shannon
10-14-2008, 08:18 PM
And I will as well. I simply won't vote for an ignorant hick from the backwoods whose only virtue is that she energizes the whacky-wacky vote.

Another day, another whacky- wacky name call.

Cold Warrior
10-14-2008, 08:20 PM
Another day, another whacky- wacky name call.

It's nicer than what I'm usually called. :D

Shannon
10-14-2008, 08:20 PM
Conservative Underground
The forum where liberal and conservatives and come together. :)

Oh, shut up.:rolleyes:


(How 'bout them Cowboys?)

BadCat
10-14-2008, 08:22 PM
If you're refering to me, you're demonstrating your ignorance. I was one of the few McCain supporters here during the primaries and I will not be voting Democrat. However, I won't vote for Annie Oakley either.

What is your major beef with her, CW?
I have heard her express HER beliefs on issues, I've not heard her say her beliefs were anything she would try to legislate.

SaintLouieWoman
10-14-2008, 08:23 PM
If you're refering to me, you're demonstrating your ignorance. I was one of the few McCain supporters here during the primaries and I will not be voting Democrat. However, I won't vote for Annie Oakley either.
Typical elitist Eastern comment. Without the "whacky whack" vote---anyone in flyover country, the Republicans would be nonexistent. Annie Oakley is really demeaning. Talk about throwing out nasty comments, I can see a tad of name-calling in the "hick" and "Annie Oakley" remarks.

She was elected governor of a state. What are your credentials to be so damned condescending? Oh wait, you're a keyboard commando. How special. :rolleyes:

LogansPapa
10-14-2008, 08:29 PM
(How 'bout them Cowboys?)

In comparison with your team? How bout’em? :rolleyes:

Cold Warrior
10-14-2008, 08:29 PM
Typical elitist Eastern comment. Without the "whacky whack" vote---anyone in flyover country, the Republicans would be nonexistent. Annie Oakley is really demeaning. Talk about throwing out nasty comments, I can see a tad of name-calling in the "hick" and "Annie Oakley" remarks.

She was elected governor of a state. What are your credentials to be so damned condescending? Oh wait, you're a keyboard commando. How special. :rolleyes:

As I pointed out to lacarnut, using "colorful names" in regards to politicians is perfectly acceptable here and on most political message boards. Unless, of course, you made a similar post objecting to the thread that was ENTITLED "Barney Fag..." If you did not, you hardly have any grounds upon which to make an objection to my characterization of Palin.

megimoo
10-14-2008, 08:32 PM
Typical elitist Eastern comment. Without the "whacky whack" vote---anyone in flyover country, the Republicans would be nonexistent. Annie Oakley is really demeaning. Talk about throwing out nasty comments, I can see a tad of name-calling in the "hick" and "Annie Oakley" remarks.

She was elected governor of a state. What are your credentials to be so damned condescending? Oh wait, you're a keyboard commando. How special. :rolleyes:You're doing great come on give it to him and really 'crank him up '!

Shannon
10-14-2008, 08:38 PM
In comparison with your team? How bout’em? :rolleyes:

This isn't the place. I might just start a "how 'bout them cowboys" thread.

SaintLouieWoman
10-14-2008, 08:39 PM
As I pointed out to lacarnut, using "colorful names" in regards to politicians is perfectly acceptable here and on most political message boards. Unless, of course, you made a similar post objecting to the thread that was ENTITLED "Barney Fag..." If you did not, you hardly have any grounds upon which to make an objection to my characterization of Palin.

I did not call you or anyone else a "colorful name". I have not posted or looked at the thread entitled Barney Fag. I certainly have grounds to object to your characterization of Palin. It's insulting. As I said, when you inform the board of your grand and glorious credentials, then you can make your remarks.

Being from the East coat (or wherever you really are) does not give you the right to castigate folks who "talk funny". She has an accent similar to the Scandinavians. Certainly a world traveler such as yourself should understand this.

I've seen many elite, wealthy, snobbish Republicans here in my home town. But they don't get out the vote. It's those darned conservatives who get out the vote and help elect candidates.

By the way, did you ever notice that this is CONSERVATIVE Underground?

patriot45
10-14-2008, 11:50 PM
As I pointed out to lacarnut, using "colorful names" in regards to politicians is perfectly acceptable here and on most political message boards. Unless, of course, you made a similar post objecting to the thread that was ENTITLED "Barney Fag..." If you did not, you hardly have any grounds upon which to make an objection to my characterization of Palin.

Your view of Palin is really uncalled for. She happens to be a conservative with wholesome values, conservative values. You seem to be of the European set of values, ie the left.
You would dare to compare the U.S.A with France or any European country. I would too, but they would come out lacking.

Oh, and if you are wondering about Barney, I thought he is a fag! Dick Army was right.

horselady
10-14-2008, 11:58 PM
Lets get down to the meat of this Palin pick:

She was chosen because in previous elections John McCain alienated the Christian Right. No other reason, other than eye-candy - even though she ends up looking like the very young daughter to a man that waited until he was 50 to have her.

Evangelicals were laughed at by Rove and the "W" White House, on a regular bases, once Mr. Bush had gotten their votes. Really pissed off The Body and this was the only way McCain could get back into The Fold.

They’re already planning a bright and pure future for the nation, starting with the overturning of the right for a woman to control her body and hand that decision over to their holy jurisdiction.

But that’s just the beginning……..

I'm all in favor of a woman controlling her own body, it's when she extends that control to
another body that happens to be renting space her in womb that bothers me, especially
when she decides to kill it just because she feels like it.

Oh and B. Hussein Obama, the Muslim, doesn't even want to let a baby that is born alive
after a botched abortion receive medical attention. He prefers to let it die.

Sarah Palin is the best thing that's happened to the GOP since Reagan.

You don't want to hear what I think is just the beginning in a B. Hussein Obama the Muslim
administration......

marinejcksn
10-15-2008, 04:14 AM
I'm so sick of the Palin bashing by these retards. She's a class act, she's smart, she was a genius pick and almost made me vote for McCain. I will be voting for her for President in 2012 if Barack Milhouse Nobama wins the White House. Every news station should be ashamed of themselves for what they're doing to this woman's family, still MSLSD is talking about her daughter's pregnancy, what the flying fu*k does that have to do with Sarah Palin? Her daughter got pregnant, she was responsible and decided not to kill an innocent life and is getting married, it's a non-issue. LEAVE HER FUC*ING FAMILY ALONE. If Faux news posted 1 hit piece about that Predator-clone wife of Nobama's, Liberals heads would effin explode. Keith Overbite would probably run out and not please another woman in a 1 night stand.

Goddamnit I effing hate this media and these drones. Dullards, every single one. McCain isn't conservative and it effing infuriates me because if he came out and called Obama a Marxist in this debate and told the American people the Socialist agenda Obama's pushing and promised to stop it, he'd win in a landslide.

SaintLouieWoman
10-15-2008, 10:29 AM
I'm so sick of the Palin bashing by these retards. She's a class act, she's smart, she was a genius pick and almost made me vote for McCain. I will be voting for her for President in 2012 if Barack Milhouse Nobama wins the White House. Every news station should be ashamed of themselves for what they're doing to this woman's family, still MSLSD is talking about her daughter's pregnancy, what the flying fu*k does that have to do with Sarah Palin? Her daughter got pregnant, she was responsible and decided not to kill an innocent life and is getting married, it's a non-issue. LEAVE HER FUC*ING FAMILY ALONE. If Faux news posted 1 hit piece about that Predator-clone wife of Nobama's, Liberals heads would effin explode. Keith Overbite would probably run out and not please another woman in a 1 night stand.

Goddamnit I effing hate this media and these drones. Dullards, every single one. McCain isn't conservative and it effing infuriates me because if he came out and called Obama a Marxist in this debate and told the American people the Socialist agenda Obama's pushing and promised to stop it, he'd win in a landslide.

Heard on Fox News this morning a quote from McCain on our local STL radio station, KMOX, that he'll answer Obama's taunt that McCain doesn't have the guts to bring up Ayers to his face. I'm sure Nobama has a little trap set for McCain.

I hope McCain brings up the Acorn issue---hard. Just saw one of Nobama's jerk campaign folks calling Danforth's remarks about the Acorn cheating laughable.

If anyone knows Sen John Danforth, it's that he's not a partisan. I've always said that he's one of the world's biggest RINO'S. He's an ordained minister, a true patrician, one of the family who owned Ralston Purina, a partner in Bryan Cave McPheeters law firm (huge firm headquartered here with offices in LA and Dubai). He's one of the most honest people on the face of the planet. To have some sleazy Obama clone sneering about him made me furious.

The Palin bashing also gets me more than annoyed.

LibraryLady
10-15-2008, 10:34 AM
I hope McCain brings up the Acorn issue---hard. Just saw one of Nobama's jerk campaign folks calling Danforth's remarks about the Acorn cheating laughable.

I saw that too. It was Bill Burton - who has never answered a question IN HIS LIFE. He always changes the subject. Fox is getting fed up with him.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 10:36 AM
Your view of Palin is really uncalled for. She happens to be a conservative with wholesome values, conservative values. You seem to be of the European set of values, ie the left.
You would dare to compare the U.S.A with France or any European country. I would too, but they would come out lacking.

Oh, and if you are wondering about Barney, I thought he is a fag! Dick Army was right.

I don't know why you object to my characterization of differing Republican views on Palin. Your post (with emphasis mine) exactly illustrates the point I made here...


It's interesting how the Palin selection has really accentuated the differences between the "Religious Right Republicans" and the "Establishment Northeastern Republicans." The former tend to value character over demonstrated ability and focus on social/cultural issues; the latter prize meritocracy (just like the French :eek:) while viewing social/cultural issues as secondary, if not unimportant and beyond the purview of government. The two groups have generally shared common ground on economics and national defense, but this election appears to be shattering what has been a very uneasy alliance.

As to calling "Barney Frank" "Barney Fag," I really don't care as I have no skin in the game. You can call him, Obama, Biden, etc. whatever "colorful names" you like and you won't hear me objecting. However, when I call Palin "Annie Oakley," I find it interesting (and extremely amusing) that hackles are raised regarding the gross unfairness of "calling politicians names."

megimoo
10-15-2008, 10:49 AM
I'm all in favor of a woman controlling her own body, it's when she extends that control to
another body that happens to be renting space her in womb that bothers me, especially
when she decides to kill it just because she feels like it.

Oh and B. Hussein Obama, the Muslim, doesn't even want to let a baby that is born alive
after a botched abortion receive medical attention. He prefers to let it die.

Sarah Palin is the best thing that's happened to the GOP since Reagan.

You don't want to hear what I think is just the beginning in a B. Hussein Obama the Muslim
administration......Hear her,hear her.Very well said HorseLady !

LogansPapa
10-15-2008, 11:09 AM
This isn't the place. I might just start a "how 'bout them cowboys" thread.

:eek: Where did all the chicken feathers come from. Listen Lady - you opened you mouth. How’s the taste of shoe leather on the stilettos, Sweetie? :p

LogansPapa
10-15-2008, 11:23 AM
This thing with McCain, Palin over Mitt, is now obviously - given the economy’s situation, a grave mistake by the RNC. Evangelicals are wonderful people, but if John were to die or become incapacitated, would you really want this dingy little doll being the Commander in Chief?

The abortion issue would just be the beginning, in which women would just get them illegally, go to Mexico, or fly to Europe for a short vacation. Poor women would have more children and you would end up supporting them.

The issues isn’t that Palin’s daughter is going to get married after becoming pregnant. The issue is that her daughter obviously said screw Mom’s values (literally) and the Bible thumping that came with them. Nobody talks about that - the theocratical government of Palin’s house was a obviously a loose joke and her daughter rebelled against it. That’s not something to be proud of and drag the entire clan out on the RNC’s stage about - it was and is a matter of societal shame.

If the Republicans win then we’re just a single heartbeat from a ignorant theocracy that might rival the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Shannon
10-15-2008, 11:38 AM
If the Republicans win then we’re just a single heartbeat from a ignorant theocracy that might rival the Taliban in Afghanistan.

I seriously can't believe you just said that. You do keep me amused.

BadCat
10-15-2008, 11:46 AM
This thing with McCain, Palin over Mitt, is now obviously - given the economy’s situation, a grave mistake by the RNC. Evangelicals are wonderful people, but if John were to die or become incapacitated, would you really want this dingy little doll being the Commander in Chief?

The abortion issue would just be the beginning, in which women would just get them illegally, go to Mexico, or fly to Europe for a short vacation. Poor women would have more children and you would end up supporting them.

The issues isn’t that Palin’s daughter is going to get married after becoming pregnant. The issue is that her daughter obviously said screw Mom’s values (literally) and the Bible thumping that came with them. Nobody talks about that - the theocratical government of Palin’s house was a obviously a loose joke and her daughter rebelled against it. That’s not something to be proud of and drag the entire clan out on the RNC’s stage about - it was and is a matter of societal shame.

If the Republicans win then we’re just a single heartbeat from a ignorant theocracy that might rival the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Gee Darwin, you really are a deluded idiot.

linda22003
10-15-2008, 11:53 AM
The abortion issue would just be the beginning, in which women would just get them illegally, go to Mexico, or fly to Europe for a short vacation.

That's where I came in, ca. 1968. As a prep school freshman, I was envious that a few older girls got to take "vacations" during the school term, until an upperclassman took me aside and explained the Facts of Rich Girl Life. ;)

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 12:11 PM
This thing with McCain, Palin over Mitt, is now obviously - given the economy’s situation, a grave mistake by the RNC. Evangelicals are wonderful people, but if John were to die or become incapacitated, would you really want this dingy little doll being the Commander in Chief?

The abortion issue would just be the beginning, in which women would just get them illegally, go to Mexico, or fly to Europe for a short vacation. Poor women would have more children and you would end up supporting them.

The issues isn’t that Palin’s daughter is going to get married after becoming pregnant. The issue is that her daughter obviously said screw Mom’s values (literally) and the Bible thumping that came with them. Nobody talks about that - the theocratical government of Palin’s house was a obviously a loose joke and her daughter rebelled against it. That’s not something to be proud of and drag the entire clan out on the RNC’s stage about - it was and is a matter of societal shame.

If the Republicans win then we’re just a single heartbeat from a ignorant theocracy that might rival the Taliban in Afghanistan.

It's interesting that with events as they've unfolded -- the economic crisis (don't call it a recession) -- Romney would have complimented McCain's foreign policy experience with his own knowledge and skills in the area of business and economics. As it has turned out, that might have been a much better pick as McCain's poll numbers have tanked in a fairly close correlation with the economic numbers.

Such a pick, however, would not have secured the base who distrusted McCain's convictions regarding their key social issues, abortion, gay marriage, and guns. And this is one thing I've never understood, as McCain's positions on abortion and guns have always been consistent with those of the "Religious Right." However, during the primaries, I remember a column by Coulter effectively claiming that if nominated, McCain would pick Giuliani as his VP and, if elected, McCain would make his secret support of abortion known to one and all! :eek:

BTW, LP, I think comparing a Palin administration to the Taliban may be just a wee bit hyperbolic. The Congress would effectively block her social agenda. My concern would be in foreign policy and international affairs. This woman had never held a passport until last year.

GrumpyOldLady
10-15-2008, 12:11 PM
Lets get down to the meat of this Palin pick:…..

Yes. Lets.

She's MORE qualified then Obama.
She has MORE executive experience then Obama.
She is pro-life - Obama isn't and he even sees babies as 'punishments'.
She is pro-defense - Obama definately isn't He promised to DISARM America.
She is pro-drilling - Obama isn't.
She is pro 2nd Amendment rights - Obama isn't.
She understands economics - Obama doesn't
She can speak correctly - Obama can't.

Getting to the meat and all ...
Govenor Palin is a medium rare rib-eye steak with A1 on the side.
Obama is a rancid hot dog that was left in the sun too long.

GrumpyOldLady
10-15-2008, 12:15 PM
If the Republicans win then we’re just a single heartbeat from a ignorant theocracy that might rival the Taliban in Afghanistan.

:rolleyes:

National Review (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjUwZWIwZTNhY2Y0YTFkYzFmZTIyZWUwZWNkYjk4ZGM=) The coming Obama thugocrisy. His brown shirts are already warming up.

linda22003
10-15-2008, 12:27 PM
Yes. Lets.

She's MORE qualified then Obama.
She has MORE executive experience then Obama.
She is pro-life - Obama isn't and he even sees babies as 'punishments'.
She is pro-defense - Obama definately isn't He promised to DISARM America.
She is pro-drilling - Obama isn't.
She is pro 2nd Amendment rights - Obama isn't.
She understands economics - Obama doesn't
She can speak correctly - Obama can't.


I understand most of those, but not the last one. "You betcha", "doggone it", and the like are examples of speaking correctly? :confused:

LogansPapa
10-15-2008, 12:39 PM
I seriously can't believe you just said that. You do keep me amused.

A bit over the top?:confused:

LogansPapa
10-15-2008, 12:44 PM
BTW, LP, I think comparing a Palin administration to the Taliban may be just a wee bit hyperbolic. The Congress would effectively block her social agenda.

Of course it is - and it was meant to be, but compared with "He’s and Arab", it is light weight. And regarding Congress - you mean the way they didn’t fall right in line and sign off on "W’s" Seventh Crusade?

I don’t think so, my friend.:cool:

LogansPapa
10-15-2008, 12:48 PM
I understand most of those, but not the last one. "You betcha", "doggone it", and the like are examples of speaking correctly? :confused:

If you’re from Minnesota, don’t-cha know. ;)

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 12:49 PM
I understand most of those, but not the last one. "You betcha", "doggone it", and the like are examples of speaking correctly? :confused:

This is one of the points that the article (http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon1013hm.html) I cited on the first page of this thread (from a conservative journal) was making. Conservatives (or some conservatives at least) used to believe there was a general correlation between a person's ability to think and his/her ability formulate language that expressed those thoughts. I think, for example, WFB would concur with this general proposition. However, with Palin, they seem to have abandoned that belief.

BTW, despite the confusion of some posters, neither I nor the article discussed her "accent." I don't think I've ever mentioned it.

linda22003
10-15-2008, 12:53 PM
I was just browsing over on FR; they are of course totally in love with Sarah, and are ascribing amazing attributes to her:

"Sarah Palin has the heart of a warrior, and the soul of an angel.
Her indomitable spirit reminds me of Joan of Arc.
She has a God-given mission to do, and she's going to do it, her detractors be damned."

That poster should probably look up what happened to Joan. She was one "hot" babe. :p

Goldwater
10-15-2008, 12:53 PM
What experience does Romney have with the economy? He left after being governor with one of the higest unemployment rates.

Shannon
10-15-2008, 12:57 PM
I was just browsing over on FR; they are of course totally in love with Sarah, and are ascribing amazing attributes to her:

"Sarah Palin has the heart of a warrior, and the soul of an angel.
Her indomitable spirit reminds me of Joan of Arc.
She has a God-given mission to do, and she's going to do it, her detractors be damned."

That poster should probably look up what happened to Joan. She was one "hot" babe. :p

Joan was a nutcase. Probably not a good comparison.:eek:

GrumpyOldLady
10-15-2008, 12:59 PM
. "You betcha", "doggone it", and the like are examples of speaking correctly? :confused:

Those are local catch phrases. Everyday language. (shouldn't be in national speeches IMHO)

However, I'm speaking of Barry O and his continual - uh oh uh uh um uh uh er er uh oh

Eyelids
10-15-2008, 01:00 PM
My problem with Palin is not that she's a clueless dope who was chosen to be VP because she, quite frankly, has amazing tits; its more what she has done to the country. She struck a nerve on both the right and the left, and basically got them to hate each other more than they already do. Sarah Palin split America into two parts: people who love her and people who hate her. Both sides are equally fanatical. There are plenty of people who will refuse to call Barack Obama the President after he's inaugurated and I suspect we'll get a fair dosage of them on CU, and I think a big part of that is Sarah Palin.

BadCat
10-15-2008, 01:03 PM
My problem with Palin is not that she's a clueless dope who was chosen to be VP because she, quite frankly, has amazing tits; its more what she has done to the country. She struck a nerve on both the right and the left, and basically got them to hate each other more than they already do. Sarah Palin split America into two parts: people who love her and people who hate her. Both sides are equally fanatical. There are plenty of people who will refuse to call Barack Obama the President after he's inaugurated and I suspect we'll get a fair dosage of them on CU, and I think a big part of that is Sarah Palin.


How would you know an amazing tit?
I'd bet you've never even seen a tit besides your mothers.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 01:07 PM
What experience does Romney have with the economy? He left after being governor with one of the higest unemployment rates.

Harvard Law and Business. Successful career prior to entering politics.


After graduation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney), Romney remained in Massachusetts and went to work for the Boston Consulting Group, where he had interned during the summer of 1974.[10] From 1978 to 1984, Romney was a vice president of Bain & Company, Inc., another management consulting firm based in Boston. In 1984, Romney left Bain & Company to co-found a spin-off private equity investment firm, Bain Capital.[11] During the 14 years he headed the company, Bain Capital's average annual internal rate of return on realized investments was 113 percent,[12] making money primarily through leveraged buyouts.[13] He invested in or bought many well-known companies such as Staples, Brookstone, Domino's, Sealy Corporation and Sports Authority.[14]

In 1990, Romney was asked to return to Bain & Company, which was facing financial collapse. As CEO, Romney managed an effort to restructure the firm's employee stock-ownership plan, real-estate deals and bank loans, while increasing fiscal transparency. Within a year, he had led Bain & Company through a highly successful turnaround and returned the firm to profitability without layoffs or partner defections.

Why is your post count 5? :D

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 01:13 PM
I was just browsing over on FR; they are of course totally in love with Sarah, and are ascribing amazing attributes to her:

"Sarah Palin has the heart of a warrior, and the soul of an angel.
Her indomitable spirit reminds me of Joan of Arc.
She has a God-given mission to do, and she's going to do it, her detractors be damned."

That poster should probably look up what happened to Joan. She was one "hot" babe. :p

Again, the attributes they admire in Palin are telling. Her "heart," "soul," "spirit," and "mission." No mention of her abilities, her competence, her experience, her knowledge. This again illustrates what I assumed was a fairly non-controversial point, the divide within the Republican ranks.

Goldwater
10-15-2008, 01:34 PM
Harvard Law and Business. Successful career prior to entering politics.

Harvard is the source of all our heroes! :D


Why is your post count 5? :D

Don't ask me. :D

horselady
10-15-2008, 07:19 PM
This thing with McCain, Palin over Mitt, is now obviously - given the economy’s situation, a grave mistake by the RNC. Evangelicals are wonderful people, but if John were to die or become incapacitated, would you really want this dingy little doll being the Commander in Chief?

The abortion issue would just be the beginning, in which women would just get them illegally, go to Mexico, or fly to Europe for a short vacation. Poor women would have more children and you would end up supporting them.

The issues isn’t that Palin’s daughter is going to get married after becoming pregnant. The issue is that her daughter obviously said screw Mom’s values (literally) and the Bible thumping that came with them. Nobody talks about that - the theocratical government of Palin’s house was a obviously a loose joke and her daughter rebelled against it. That’s not something to be proud of and drag the entire clan out on the RNC’s stage about - it was and is a matter of societal shame.

If the Republicans win then we’re just a single heartbeat from a ignorant theocracy that might rival the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Hey, last I heard those po' poor women you speak of could get birth control for FREE. In this day and age, there is no reason that a woman has to get pregnant if she doesn't want to.
As for having to take care of all those po' women's babies, did you ever stop to think that maybe Americans who couldn't have children would adopt them instead of having to go overseas to find babies to adopt?

Better a Republican "theocracy" as you call it than a Muslim communist dictatorship as Obama would bring.

horselady
10-15-2008, 07:20 PM
Again, the attributes they admire in Palin are telling. Her "heart," "soul," "spirit," and "mission." No mention of her abilities, her competence, her experience, her knowledge. This again illustrates what I assumed was a fairly non-controversial point, the divide within the Republican ranks.

Her experience as a chief executive puts Obama's commie organizer experience to shame.

horselady
10-15-2008, 07:23 PM
I understand most of those, but not the last one. "You betcha", "doggone it", and the like are examples of speaking correctly? :confused:

Oh really? And I suppose B. Hussein claiming that he has visited 57 states is?

WEll, it is if he was talking about the 57 Islamic states. Freudian slip or just plain ignorance?

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 07:45 PM
Oh My Gosh!!! Policon; you were not kidding when you [welcomed me here] and warned me about the secret democraps that like to hide out on this forum!! WOW!!No I was not kidding. We have a few and they make me wanna puke.

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 07:47 PM
If you're refering to me, you're demonstrating your ignorance. I was one of the few McCain supporters here during the primaries and I will not be voting Democrat. However, I won't vote for Annie Oakley either.
Emerald - CW is a prime example. He liked McCain when he was playing to the left and kissing democrat ass. The moment he added a real conservative to the ticket CW decided to sit in the corner and piss his pants.

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 07:48 PM
Another day, another whacky- wacky name call.He doesn't call names remember?

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:00 PM
Emerald - CW is a prime example. He liked McCain when he was playing to the left and kissing democrat ass. The moment he added a real conservative to the ticket CW decided to sit in the corner and piss his pants.

Sorry all us "faux" conservatives disappointed you...

Christopher Buckley
George Will
Peggy Noonan
Heather MacDonald
Kathleen Parker
David Frum
etc

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:03 PM
He doesn't call names remember?

Did I call YOU a name? I referenced a group of people who share a certain philosophy. Posters do that here all the time. Just as the rather odd idea that one can't reference politicians or other public figures using names that some consider derogatory seems to have gained currency (when, of course, it's applied to "OUR TEAM").

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:20 PM
Sorry all us "faux" conservatives disappointed you...

Christopher Buckley
George Will
Peggy Noonan
Heather MacDonald
Kathleen Parker
David Frum
etc and?? The only opinion that really counts is that of the maha-rushie.

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:21 PM
Did I call YOU a name? I referenced a group of people who share a certain philosophy. Posters do that here all the time. Just as the rather odd idea that one can't reference politicians or other public figures using names that some consider derogatory seems to have gained currency (when, of course, it's applied to "OUR TEAM").call names all you like just don't you dare lecture others on it. That's all. stupid jackass with a strap on trunk.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:24 PM
call names all you like just don't you dare lecture others on it. That's all. stupid jackass with a strap on trunk.

Again, I have not called you any name. I have characterized a group of people who share what I consider extreme positions on social issues. It is the same thing that is done here routinely regarding numerous groups of people.

However, you, under the current rules, are quite free to call me names directly. That's the way life is and I understand that. However, it does nothing for rational discussion.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:25 PM
and?? The only opinion that really counts is that of the maha-rushie.

No, the only opinion that counts is the voters' opinion in November. However, an Obama win will certainly increase Cyst Boiy's bank accoiunt.

Shannon
10-15-2008, 08:26 PM
and?? The only opinion that really counts is that of the maha-rushie.

:D:p

.........

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:27 PM
Again, I have not called you any name. I have characterized a group of people who share what I consider extreme positions on social issues. It is the same thing that is done here routinely regarding numerous groups of people.

However, you, under the current rules, are quite free to call me names directly. That's the way life is and I understand that. However, it does nothing for rational discussion.any time you call religious conservatives wacky wacks - you are calling ME a name. I'm very much a religious conservative. so - take off the strap on trunk and admit to being the jackass you are.

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:28 PM
:D:p

.........:cool: CW is a stupid jackass.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:30 PM
Oh really? And I suppose B. Hussein claiming that he has visited 57 states is?

WEll, it is if he was talking about the 57 Islamic states. Freudian slip or just plain ignorance?

You seem quite adamant in (and proud of) your Islamaphobia so I'd like to ask you the following. Do you know a significant number of Muslims? Are you familiar with the details of Islam, i.e., have you read the Koran or perhaps western texts regarding Islam? Are you familiar with Islamic history, its founding, its expansion, its role in preserving significant learnings from classical western civilization? Have you ever lived in an Islamic country?

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:33 PM
any time you call religious conservatives wacky wacks - you are calling ME a name. I'm very much a religious conservative. so - take off the strap on trunk and admit to being the jackass you are.

Whether you like it or not, people on this site and most other sites use "colorful names" to refer to groups of people who share a common religious, political, or cultural philosophy. If I use one to which you consider yourself a member, then that's unfortunate. However, it is very different than addressing you directly. You associate yourself with the group under discusion, not I.

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:35 PM
at least I am honest about my associations. You still can't bring yourself to be honest about yours. Go on. Take off the strap on trunk and the fake flappy ears and bray for us.

Eyelids
10-15-2008, 08:39 PM
No, the only opinion that counts is the voters' opinion in November. However, an Obama win will certainly increase Cyst Boiy's bank accoiunt.

I will post pictures of the kegs left in my wake the night Obama wins.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:40 PM
at least I am honest about my associations. You still can't bring yourself to be honest about yours. Go on. Take off the strap on trunk and the fake flappy ears and bray for us.

You are simply demonstrating your ignorance for all to see. If, through your rather Palinesque analogy, you are implying that somehow I'm an "evil Democrat" in disguise, you are fooled by your own misconceptions that everyone must be, to paraphrase the Idiot Child, "wid us'n or again us'n." There are lots of people in this big, big world who think the distinctions you're making are quite ludicrous and very, very childish. You really need to get out more.

Eyelids
10-15-2008, 08:40 PM
at least I am honest about my associations. You still can't bring yourself to be honest about yours. Go on. Take off the strap on trunk and the fake flappy ears and bray for us.

Name one bad association you have.

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:41 PM
God what a fuck'n elitist you are. bray some more for us CW. Go on. BRAY.

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:42 PM
Name one bad association you have.I am constantly forced to associate with you LP and CW on this board. How's that for bad?

Eyelids
10-15-2008, 08:43 PM
I am constantly forced to associate with you LP and CW on this board. How's that for bad?

You're so honest about yourself.

BadCat
10-15-2008, 08:45 PM
When their "holy book" has stuff like this in there....

"Lying is wrong, except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people" (Mussnad Ahmad, 6.459)

''And those of the people of the Book who aided them, Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts, some you slay, and some ye make prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (Before).''

I don't really see the reason to treat them as anything but an enemy.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:46 PM
God what a fuck'n elitist you are. bray some more for us CW. Go on. BRAY.

An interesting, but not very informative, response. Again, do you think the world consists of only conservatives, who you seem to define as those who share your whacky-wacky (sorry, Shannon) beliefs and all the rest of us evil liberals? Do you think, for example, George Will or Christopher Buckley is one of those evil liberals? Do you really live in a video game?

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:46 PM
You're so honest about yourself. what can I say dude - I do not associate with terrorists or elitists or racists of any form. Except you three.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:47 PM
When their "holy book" has stuff like this in there....

"Lying is wrong, except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people" (Mussnad Ahmad, 6.459)

''And those of the people of the Book who aided them, Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts, some you slay, and some ye make prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (Before).''

I don't really see the reason to treat them as anything but an enemy.

Want me to quote a bunch of Old Testament crap back? "Holy books" are really products of the social, cultural, and political situation at the time. They all reflect this.

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:47 PM
An interesting, but not very informative, response. Again, do you think the world consists of only conservatives, who you seem to define as those who share your whacky-wacky (sorry, Shannon) beliefs and all the rest of us evil liberals? Do you think, for example, George Will or Christopher Buckley is one of those evil liberals? Do you really live in a video game?Good boy. Bray some more. I'll get you trained if it kills ya.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 08:50 PM
Good boy. Bray some more. I'll get you trained if it kills ya.

Could you demonstrate your lack of intellectual capability any more? While most of the people here agree with you on an emotional level, you do them no favors on an intellectual one, and I suspect that all, but the extreme ideologues, see that.

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:52 PM
even the biggest fool on the site - blinky over there can see how badly you're being played to dumb jackass.:cool:

megimoo
10-15-2008, 08:53 PM
I am constantly forced to associate with you LP and CW on this board. How's that for bad?For instant relief put them both on ignore !

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 08:54 PM
For instant relief put them both on ignore !are you crazy? It's too much fun to push buttons and watch them dance.

BadCat
10-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Want me to quote a bunch of Old Testament crap back? "Holy books" are really products of the social, cultural, and political situation at the time. They all reflect this.

Absolutely true.
But I don't know any Christians who "live" the Old Testament.
I do know Muslims who "live" the Koran.

wilbur
10-15-2008, 09:03 PM
and?? The only opinion that really counts is that of the maha-rushie.

Your average ditto-head (read mind-numbed robot):

http://www.geekologie.com/2008/03/25/killer-robot.jpg

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 09:08 PM
Your average ditto-head (read mind-numbed robot):

http://www.geekologie.com/2008/03/25/killer-robot.jpg

I think you're being far to complementary, wilbur. Here's sort of the way I imagine him...


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/SCooks/HillbillyOveralls.jpg

megimoo
10-15-2008, 09:11 PM
Your average ditto-head (read mind-numbed robot):

http://www.geekologie.com/2008/03/25/killer-robot.jpgWilli you are getting to be a silly shit !

wilbur
10-15-2008, 09:13 PM
Willi you are getting to be a silly shit !

What can I say, one silly post deserves another :)

MrsSmith
10-15-2008, 09:15 PM
What can I say, one silly post deserves another :)

Then that's probably all you should ever get in return. :rolleyes:

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 09:15 PM
I think you're being far to complementary, wilbur. Here's sort of the way I imagine him...


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/SCooks/HillbillyOveralls.jpgreally? cause I'm fairly certain that this -

http://blog.avramovic.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/t-shirt_10.jpg

is you.

Shannon
10-15-2008, 09:50 PM
I can't respond to Wilbur until noon tomorrow.:rolleyes:

PoliCon
10-15-2008, 10:23 PM
I can't respond to Wilbur until noon tomorrow.:rolleyes:why would you respond to a sock?

wilbur
10-15-2008, 10:45 PM
why would you respond to a sock?

You are a paranoid little fella arent you?

SaintLouieWoman
10-15-2008, 11:20 PM
For instant relief put them both on ignore !

He's lucky that he can. I'm unlucky. Sadly as a mod I can't put them on ignore. CW musn't be doing much consulting work lately. He's on here non-stop.

Cold Warrior
10-15-2008, 11:26 PM
He's lucky that he can. I'm unlucky. Sadly as a mod I can't put them on ignore. CW musn't be doing much consulting work lately. He's on here non-stop.

You're right! That's why I'm having to drink Dewar's. Oh, the sacrifices one must make in hard times!

SaintLouieWoman
10-15-2008, 11:35 PM
You're right! That's why I'm having to drink Dewar's. Oh, the sacrifices one must make in hard times!

Times are indeed tough. I don't drink any hard liquor----too busy living a useful life, working full time, no time for liquor. Water is good and healthy. STL received an award for the best public water in the US.

marinejcksn
10-16-2008, 02:25 AM
My problem with Palin is not that she's a clueless dope who was chosen to be VP because she, quite frankly, has amazing tits; its more what she has done to the country. She struck a nerve on both the right and the left, and basically got them to hate each other more than they already do. Sarah Palin split America into two parts: people who love her and people who hate her. Both sides are equally fanatical. There are plenty of people who will refuse to call Barack Obama the President after he's inaugurated and I suspect we'll get a fair dosage of them on CU, and I think a big part of that is Sarah Palin.

See, this is the game you Leftists play and it's why you're disgusting. If any member on the "Right" made sexual comments about Michelle Obama you'd have a field day bashing them in every way imaginable. Instead, tasteless people like you and hack writers over at Salon & DailyKOS get away with hits on Palin treating her as some sex object with no brain and nobody on the Left says a word in protest. You know why NOW, Nancy Pelousy, Diane FrankenFeinStein and Babs Boxer haven't stepped up to condemn the way you sexists are treating Palin? Because they're threatened by her. Here's an inteligent, hard working woman, dedicated mother, attractive, just all around a really nice lady and the Leftists can't stand her for it. They hate her values, they hate that she's taken the focus off your Messiah, they hate everything they can about this woman because they know she's a better woman then they could ever be.

You lefties wanna lose in November, keep attacking Palin. I'm telling you now; Middle America, Independent voters that are on the fence this year...they're going to vote McCain/Palin if you keep on ambushing her.

Eyelids
10-16-2008, 03:04 AM
She has no brain, have you seen her respones to questioning? She's a joke. People laugh at her, nobody feels threatened by her any more than the animals she shoots from airplanes. This defense mechanism on the right that springs up every time somebody stands up and questions what the hell an idiot like Palin is doing is comical. WE AREN'T AFRAID OF HER. WE NEVER WERE. SHE'S BEEN A JOKE SINCE THE DAY SHE NOMINATED.

marinejcksn
10-16-2008, 03:26 AM
As opposed to your VP, who tells men in wheelchairs to "stand up" and thinks FDR told Americans about the Depression when he was President on the Television? :D

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha

Eyelids
10-16-2008, 01:06 PM
You are comparing mistakes on the campaign trail to genuinely not knowing what you're talking about.

marinejcksn
10-17-2008, 12:52 AM
Oh I see you're banking on the inteligence of Joe Biden then huh. Since he has an IQ higher then most of us, although he lies about almost all of his academic achievements.:rolleyes:

Speaking of your ticket being so smart, how'd Barry Sotero get into an Ivy League school? They wont release his school records...wonder why that is.

You wanna debate Obama's plans and why they wont work? I got all day. The man is a complete fu*king moron.

PoliCon
10-17-2008, 12:18 PM
You are a paranoid little fella arent you?anyone else smell feet?

PoliCon
10-17-2008, 12:20 PM
He's lucky that he can. I'm unlucky. Sadly as a mod I can't put them on ignore. CW musn't be doing much consulting work lately. He's on here non-stop.Oh he's doing his "work." He's here to dispirit actual factual conservatives so that he candidate of choice gets elected.

PoliCon
10-17-2008, 12:23 PM
She has no brain, have you seen her respones to questioning? She's a joke. People laugh at her, nobody feels threatened by her any more than the animals she shoots from airplanes. This defense mechanism on the right that springs up every time somebody stands up and questions what the hell an idiot like Palin is doing is comical. WE AREN'T AFRAID OF HER. WE NEVER WERE. SHE'S BEEN A JOKE SINCE THE DAY SHE NOMINATED.
You guys on the left are threatened by anyone who is not part of the elitist establishment. Anyone and everyone who is not part of that elitist establishment is a retard according to the press and the elitists. Palin is not stupid any more than George Bush is stupid or Al Gore is smart.