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Carol
10-17-2008, 07:39 PM
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Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:18 PM
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They really **are** fanning the flames of hatred. That is not intended to be one bit hyperbolic.
Advertisements [?]Obama is going to win the election. McCain will go back to the Senate. Palin will go back to Alaska.

But the hate speech will not go anywhere. This is a flood that these people have unleashed. There are, quite literally, a million people (at least) in this country who buy into all this and more. And there are, without a doubt, dangerous - truly dangerous - people among them. My concern is with them. With the most dangerous among America's Dangerous Million.

This isn't funny.

This can not be cloaked in the innocence of "campaign rhetoric".

This is incitement.

For some, that is the purpose. To incite. For others, it is entertainment. A franchise built on hate mongering for self-enrichment. To pay for fat cigars, Viagara, and sexual tourism. For yet others, it is about gaining some measure of political power. For others still, it is about foisting religious views on those who choose to resist them. But really, the purpose and individual fomenter's level of awareness doesn't matter.

It is simply incitement to hate ....... and to some form of action. Otherwise, why hate? The fomenters wish something to happen. They have agendas.

We have had twenty years of hate radio. We, **as a people** are inured to the hate. It has become **normal**. Every wackadoodle rumor gets projected out as reality among the Dangerous Million. And that hatred is focused on the leaders of the left.

Many of us lived through a time when similar hatred was aimed at the left. It started with the Red Scare and Joe McCarthy. It reached its terrible zenith in a hotel kitchen in Los Angeles, with Number 3. And it was, by a frightening number, cheered as "deserved". Those were VERY frightening times.

It is alive and well today. The same condemnation by innuendo. The same level of frightening political rhetoric. Inciteful political rhetoric.

Today we have an added dimension. The economic situation in the country is about to get bad on a widespread basis. That alone will stress out the one wackadoodle who can change the course of history. Add the hatred already fomented and we are, indeed, in dangerous straits.

And we have, as our candidate and quite likely as our new American President, a man who is the face, the embodiment, of the new America.

He *is* historic.

And that frightens me.

This **has** to stop. But as I say that, I cannot imagine how to stop it. An end to anger on the left will not result in an end to anger on the right. It won't. In more than forty years it has not. In eighty years it has not. In 300 years ..... it .... has .... not. What a load of projection. And delusional. And pretty amusing considering all the hate the left has had in the last 7 years for President Bush and conservatives.

The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. Then think, if McCain would win it would be even worse. There
would be no one to tell them to stop the bigotry. They would feel justified and stronger like * did after he was appointed. How scary and ugly they would become! McCain is responsible for this mess.
BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:21 PM
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2. Guess since MSame knows he is not going to be prez, he figures to leave the biggest pile of crap he
can for Obama to have to clean up...
kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:29 PM
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9. Bad people will ALWAYS hate good people. It's in their very nature.
This has always been so and it will always be so.

All we can do is make our best effort to leave this world a better place than we found it - to heal what hurts we can, to see that children grow up not learning to blindly hate, to protect the victims of hate.

Yes, they will fight us every inch of the way. They will attack us, burn our homes and businesses, kill the best and brightest of us. And we will NEVER stop fighting the good fight. We will never give up and never give in.

Those who died trying knew this truth, and it never stopped them from their work: Abraham Lincoln, JFK, MLK, RFK, the civil rights workers of the 60s, the Unitarian church victims of this year.

NGU. Thanks kestrel!! Since it's clear how much liberals hate conservatives I guess that makes us the Good Guys. It's true too!

Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. To our credit in this country, I am unaware of Democrats ever fomenting hatred in the way .......
.... the modern Republicans have.

The left was at its worst (and its best, coincidentally) in the late 60s and early 70s. But all the destruction wrought by the lefty activists, it was never fomented by our real leadership.

The fundamental difference is that, today, the incitement is mainstream. Accepted. The fodder of mindless teevee 'debates'.

knowbody0 (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:45 PM
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13. I'm seeing all this from a different perspective.
We are a multi-racial family living in a very red neck community, so I have been very aware of them for a long time. I've taught my children to never give them eye contact and to turn their backs when they feel disrespected. They are all teenagers now and thriving, my son, a wrestler, placed in state last year, and has been offered a scholarship at Brown University. He was elected team captain this year by his team mates, much to the disappointment of his coach, who at reward ceremony stated that Joey was "growing on him" and "he was trying real hard to like him". Only one other parent in the audience expressed her shock at his statement, the rest of them applauded. What I am seeing and understanding is that we ARE in a new era. It's the old die hards that refuse to move on, some of their children carry the hatred (mostly based on fear) but I believe the majority no longer see skin color as relevant.

I may be too optomistic, but we are now forced by Obama's run to actually see the bigotry remaining today. The evil once exposed is devoured by the light that shines upon it. These people look ridiculous, their rants are insane and pathetic. It's been slow, this march, but today where ever you look, we have become integrated. Those who chose to remain segregated are in the MINORITY.

It's taken a few years, but today I actually feel sorry for the haters. Some times I even tell them I forgive them, because the heaviness of their hatred has broken their spirits.Wow. What good advice. Don't give - I suppose it's "whites" - eye contact. Indicating disrespect. Perhaps a superiority complex is more the problem. Though perhaps it more with knowbody0 than with his/her kids.

ralph wiggum
10-17-2008, 07:42 PM
Husb2Sparkly (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. To our credit in this country, I am unaware of Democrats ever fomenting hatred in the way .......
.... the modern Republicans have.

Irony, thy name is Democratic Underground.

One quick example:


Elrond Hubbard (1000+ posts)
Fri Oct-17-08 04:49 PM
Original message
Poll question: Which repuke do you find most repulsive? (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7496199)
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 04:58 PM by Elrond Hubbard

I included 9 of my least favorites. The one I despise most right now is Sarah Palin. In her I see the worst qualities of Bush and Cheney combined to make some sort of nauseating hybrid. If she somehow became our president, I have a feeling we'd soon be missing how great things were under Bush. She enjoys being cruel and mean-spirited and has little regard for life or her family. She is ambitious, a religious fanatic, and vindictive and not in the least afraid to abuse power left and right. She is very, very, very dangerous. Could she inflict as much harm as Bush and Cheney? I'd say she could do far more than either could've dreamed of, but I don't want to find out.
What's your opinion?

Poll result (107 votes)
John McCain (4 votes, 4%) Vote
Sarah Palin (50 votes, 47%) Vote
George W. Bush (8 votes, 7%) Vote
Dick Cheney (31 votes, 29%) Vote
Grover Norquist (0 votes, 0%) Vote
Newt Gingrich (2 votes, 2%) Vote
Mittens Romney (1 votes, 1%) Vote
Rudy Ghouliani (4 votes, 4%) Vote
Saxby Chambliss (2 votes, 2%) Vote
Other. (5 votes, 5%) Vote

JB
10-17-2008, 08:03 PM
Apparently the ability to no longer produce testosterone makes one lose their mind.

If there are 60 threads on page one of a DU forum, 58 will have some kind of hate in them. Either in the title or the posts contained therein.

FDK
10-17-2008, 08:14 PM
kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:29 PM
Response to Original message
9. Bad people will ALWAYS hate good people. It's in their very nature.
This has always been so and it will always be so.

All we can do is make our best effort to leave this world a better place than we found it - to heal what hurts we can, to see that children grow up not learning to blindly hate, to protect the victims of hate.

Yes, they will fight us every inch of the way. They will attack us, burn our homes and businesses, kill the best and brightest of us. And we will NEVER stop fighting the good fight. We will never give up and never give in.

Those who died trying knew this truth, and it never stopped them from their work: Abraham Lincoln, JFK, MLK, RFK, the civil rights workers of the 60s, the Unitarian church victims of this year.

NGU.


What planet is this person living on? What a kook! :eek:

FlaGator
10-17-2008, 08:26 PM
I use to think that they really didn't believe this stuff they post. That it was a case of children trying to out do the previous child's comments. I find it absolutely horrifying to know that they really are this delusional and out of touch with basic humanity.

Dan D. Doty
10-17-2008, 09:39 PM
Another Moonbat just looking for reason to hurt people ( even if he has to make it up).

Wait until after the election, the Moonbats are going to make the Reign Of Terror look like a high school field trip; they're just itching to hurt people so, so bad.

Censorship, imprisonment, civil war II; looks like Titor is turning out to be right.


The dark storm is breaking over the horizon.

Keep your powder dry, your sword sharp and your wits intact.

Goldwater
10-17-2008, 09:54 PM
If there are 60 threads on page one of a DU forum, 58 will have some kind of hate in them. Either in the title or the posts contained therein.

And the other two will have great pornography. :)

d_va
10-17-2008, 09:54 PM
So, DU, a website that incites hate, is now giving lectures on inciting hate?

Tragic if these guys win :(

FDK
10-17-2008, 10:18 PM
Don't worry, The DUmp is all about hate. Though they worship The Chosen One now, they'll be calling for pitch forks and torches on The White House lawn within a month of the mighty O's nomination.

marinejcksn
10-18-2008, 07:24 AM
You know whats gonna be so much fun? If Barry Sotero loses and the hippies go ape I'll get to watch some sweet footage of cops in riot gear whompin some a$$.:D

Sonnabend
10-18-2008, 07:49 AM
12. To our credit in this country, I am unaware of Democrats ever fomenting hatred in the way .......
.... the modern Republicans have.

http://www.old-picture.com/united-states-history-1900s---1930s/pictures/Ku-Klux-Klan.jpg

http://angrywhitebitch.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/byrd_kkk.jpg

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0308/032408ayerswilliam.jpg

Sonnabend
10-18-2008, 07:51 AM
http://xark.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/2007/06/07/surgeweb2.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/19/114081011_881df59177.jpg

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/eBaumBlows/blood-for-oil.jpg

Sonnabend
10-18-2008, 07:55 AM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/353460370_a006c1881c.jpg?v=0

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2006/10/26/democratic-underground-refusin.php


Democratic Underground Refusing to Cooperate with Secret Service Investigation

Posted by Kim Priestap
Published: October 26, 2006 - 5:40 PM

The Secret Service is investigating two DU posters for, apparently, making threats against someone in the administration. I don't know if it was President Bush who was the target of these posts, and the DU isn't talking. Now the secret service has asked DU for the posters' personal information, and the DU told them to go suck a peach (well not in those words, exactly, but you get my point). This is the DU's stand regarding the whole situation:

http://takeaction.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/bush-hitlerfake.jpg

Case closed.

movie buff
10-18-2008, 11:26 AM
hypocrisy, thy name is DU.
Have the DUmmies not heard of all the countless cases of the houses of people with McCain signs in their yards being vandalized, or even hit with Molotov cocktails?
The DUmp thrives on inciting hate.

Odysseus
10-18-2008, 03:37 PM
And the other two will have great pornography. :)
Or they'll get tombstoned.

So, DU, a website that incites hate, is now giving lectures on inciting hate?
Tragic if these guys win :(
Well, if anyone should be able to lecture on inciting hatred, it's DU. Who knows how to do it better than they do?

hypocrisy, thy name is DU.
Have the DUmmies not heard of all the countless cases of the houses of people with McCain signs in their yards being vandalized, or even hit with Molotov cocktails?
The DUmp thrives on inciting hate.
They'd only know about it if it were reported in the MSM. Remember, they couldn't find John Edwards' lovechild for a year, but managed to dig up an obscure plumber's tax liens overnight. The can't be bothered to report on Barack Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers, but they sure got the nitty-gritty on the Miss Wasilla pageant. Now, they've managed to find (or concoct) examples of conservative rage at McCain rallies, but can't seem to find charred yard signs or videos of McCain supporters getting jeered by Obamanators, even though they're out there for all to see.

Sparky
10-19-2008, 10:34 PM
knowbody0 (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:45 PM
Response to Original message
13. I'm seeing all this from a different perspective.
We are a multi-racial family living in a very red neck community, so I have been very aware of them for a long time. I've taught my children to never give them eye contact and to turn their backs when they feel disrespected. They are all teenagers now and thriving, my son, a wrestler, placed in state last year, and has been offered a scholarship at Brown University.

How racist!!! The scholarship a DUmmie mixed race child is offered is from Brown University??? :eek::eek:

Odysseus
10-20-2008, 12:18 PM
knowbody0 (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-17-08 06:45 PM
Response to Original message
13. I'm seeing all this from a different perspective.
We are a multi-racial family living in a very red neck community, so I have been very aware of them for a long time. I've taught my children to never give them eye contact and to turn their backs when they feel disrespected. They are all teenagers now and thriving, my son, a wrestler, placed in state last year, and has been offered a scholarship at Brown University.

How racist!!! The scholarship a DUmmie mixed race child is offered is from Brown University??? :eek::eek:

Yeah, really! Why didn't he get a scholarship from a White University? It's obvious that the man will only let a brother into Brown. :D
(BTW, the weiner dog avatar is great)