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SarasotaRepub
12-14-2014, 10:16 AM
By Josh Levs (https://twitter.com/joshlevs), CNN
updated 8:03 AM EST, Sun December 14, 2014


(CNN) -- The grand jury in the case of Michael Brown's shooting didn't just face an onslaught of witnesses with conflicting memories (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/25/justice/ferguson-decision-michael-brown-witness-testimony/) of what happened the day white police officer Darren Wilson killed Brown, an unarmed black teenager. It also heard from witnesses who couldn't be believed at all.


Some admitted lying. Others changed their stories under questioning. Prosecutors were so skeptical of one woman's account that they asked whether she might have dreamed about seeing the confrontation in Ferguson, Missouri, on August 9.


Most of the dozens of witnesses who testified likely did their best to describe what they saw, but a review of thousands of pages of grand jury documents shows that untrustworthy testimony came from some witnesses on both sides.


"It's no surprise that some people did not tell the truth in this or any other grand jury," says CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin.




LINK (http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/14/justice/ferguson-witnesses-credibility/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

:rolleyes:

NJCardFan
12-14-2014, 03:21 PM
Well yeah. Some gave conflicting stories. But the truth is not sacrosanct in this issue, only the narrative.

SVPete
12-14-2014, 03:41 PM
Gee! Weeks after the Grand Jury decisions and after months of treating witnesses such as the Perjured Dorian Johnson as utterly credible, an MSM outlet finally is admitting that some witnesses lied? And BTW, pretty much all of the witnesses who claimed Officer Wilson murdered Michael Brown had their testimonies exposed as false by physical and autopsy evidence (not to mention the contradictions among their various testimonies and their constantly shifting accounts); only one witness who claimed to have seen that Officer Wilson did his duty properly was proven to be lying (though, ironically, most of her story was close to correct).

Nice to see an MSM outlet catch up, sort of, to where people who paid attention to such things as the autopsies knew months before.

Adam Wood
12-16-2014, 01:12 AM
Gee! Weeks after the Grand Jury decisions and after months of treating witnesses such as the Perjured Dorian Johnson as utterly credible, an MSM outlet finally is admitting that some witnesses lied? And BTW, pretty much all of the witnesses who claimed Officer Wilson murdered Michael Brown had their testimonies exposed as false by physical and autopsy evidence (not to mention the contradictions among their various testimonies and their constantly shifting accounts); only one witness who claimed to have seen that Officer Wilson did his duty properly was proven to be lying (though, ironically, most of her story was close to correct).

Nice to see an MSM outlet catch up, sort of, to where people who paid attention to such things as the autopsies knew months before.If you (the Royal You) go and read the actual testimony, there's something else that they haven't quite bothered reporting yet.

You know how there were supposedly all these witnesses who claimed that Brown's hands were "up?" Well, all but one or two, when you get into their actual testimony, did not actually claim that Brown's hands were in the air in some sort of surrender fashion. Virtually everyone who described Brown's hands as "up" said one of two things:

he put up his hands when he stopped running, but dropped them when he turned around to face Wilson, or; he did something between "jazz hands" and "come at me, bro," and a couple of people described his hands as outstretched in front of his body, as if reaching for Wilson.