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Gingersnap
10-22-2008, 10:57 AM
You Know You’re An Elitist If…

Wednesday, October 22, 2008
By Ben Shapiro


This election cycle has exposed an enormous divide across the country. It’s not the divide between black and white; it’s not even the divide between liberals and conservatives. It’s the divide between elitists and the rest of us.

Elitism is a state of mind. Not everyone in New York and Los Angeles is afflicted by it, and not everyone from Jackson, Mississippi is free from it. Elitism is the feeling of superiority enjoyed by certain people based on their income, education and nuanced value system. Elitism carries with it a strong hint of “sophisticated” Europeanism, as well as a large helping of atheistic skepticism.

Worried that you’re an elitist? Here’s how you can tell if you are.

You’re an elitist if you love “Brokeback Mountain,” but think that John Wayne movies are jingoistic expressions of outdated American machismo.

You’re an elitist if you worry that Sarah Palin hunts moose, but aren’t worried that Barack Obama wants to meet personally with dictators.

You’re an elitist if you thought Colin Powell was less “authentically black” than Barack Obama until Powell endorsed Obama.

You’re an elitist if you think that only bitter people unhappy with their lives cling to the Bible.

You’re an elitist if you quote the Book of Matthew to justify socialism, cite the Book of John to defend Bill Clinton, but write off the Book of Romans as “obscure,” or deride the Old Testament as a collection of antiquated messages about shellfish and animal sacrifices.

You’re an elitist if you think that President Bush is stupid because he says “nucular,” while Joe Biden is a genius even though he thinks the word “jobs” has three letters.

You’re an elitist if you think Joe the Plumber’s income and license status are more important than the question he asked Barack Obama.

You’re an elitist if you believe that anyone who supports the standard of a married man and woman raising a child is a bigot.

You’re an elitist if you think Bill Ayers is just a professor of English.

You’re an elitist if you believe Bill Maher’s new movie, “Religulous,” accurately depicts religious Christians and Jews.

You’re an elitist if you love watching soccer and you’re not a recent immigrant.

You’re an elitist if you declare that no one’s patriotism ought to be challenged—unless they’re questioning why they should pay higher taxes.

You’re an elitist if you think George Clooney is a great artist.

You’re an elitist if you think Sean Penn is a great diplomat.

You’re an elitist if you think Madonna is great at anything.

You’re an elitist if you think it’s unfair to question Barack Obama’s association with Jeremiah Wright, or if you think that Obama’s association with Wright is akin to his association with Tom Coburn.

You’re an elitist if you worship John F. Kennedy.

You’re an elitist if you’re excited at the prospect of government intervention in the banking system in the aftermath of the subprime meltdown.

You’re an elitist if you think Nixon/Reagan/Bush was the nation’s worst president but Jimmy Carter is the nation’s best ex-president.

You’re an elitist if you hate Whittaker Chambers but love Arthur Miller.

You’re an elitist if you believe Jon Stewart is non-partisan, but Fox News is an outlet for the Republican National Committee.

You’re an elitist if you don’t mind Sarah Silverman’s language but can’t stand James Dobson’s.

You’re an elitist if you worry what the Europeans think of us.

You’re an elitist if you think public school teachers are qualified to inform your children about sex, but parents aren’t qualified to teach their children basic math.

You’re an elitist if you think the government should manage the health care system even though it can’t manage to keep the tax code within a 10,000 page limit.

You’re an elitist if you think transgenders ought to have their own bathrooms for privacy reasons, but public distribution of pornography is fine.

You’re an elitist if you think that pro-life folks are fascists unmotivated by true sympathy for the unborn.

You’re an elitist if you know what arugula is but don’t know who Jimmie Johnson is.

I should have cut this piece down but I just enjoyed it so much. :p

CNS (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=37934)

megimoo
10-22-2008, 11:16 AM
I should have cut this piece down but I just enjoyed it so much. :p

CNS (http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=37934)

It should be put to music and sung !:D

linda22003
10-22-2008, 11:48 AM
Oh, thank heavens. I was afraid I wasn't an elitist, until I got to the last example. We have arugula in our salads almost every night, but I've never heard of Jimmie Johnson.

noonwitch
10-22-2008, 12:07 PM
I can't stand Sarah Silverman or James Dobson. I think that a man and a woman raising a family is great. I also think two women or two men raising a family is also great.


I think that Obama's association with Jeremiah Wright is fair game, but so is McCain's with Hagee, Robertson and the religious right.

Shannon
10-22-2008, 12:15 PM
You’re an elitist if you love watching soccer and you’re not a recent immigrant.

*snicker*

...

Shannon
10-22-2008, 12:17 PM
I can't stand Sarah Silverman

I haver never seen her show. Just watching the previews makes me ill.

super king
10-22-2008, 12:31 PM
...if you own eight homes.

linda22003
10-22-2008, 12:34 PM
*snicker*

...

I had to go to the original piece to see if that was really there, and that Ginger hadn't added it herself.

Defiant1
10-22-2008, 12:43 PM
I can't stand Sarah Silverman or James Dobson. I think that a man and a woman raising a family is great. I also think two women or two men raising a family is also great.


I think that Obama's association with Jeremiah Wright is fair game, but so is McCain's with Hagee, Robertson and the religious right.


I'm sorry I forget, did Hagee baptize McCain's children and Robertson performed the marriage ceremony or was it the other way around. And does John McCain gather up his family every week and shuttle them to Hagee's church? Robertson's Church? Does he split equal time between the two?

Please cite any hate America sermons or hate Americans sermons screeched from either Hagee or Robertson.

linda22003
10-22-2008, 12:45 PM
Oh, thank heavens. I was afraid I wasn't an elitist, until I got to the last example. We have arugula in our salads almost every night, but I've never heard of Jimmie Johnson.

I see no one else here can help with the Jimmie Johnson reference.

Shannon
10-22-2008, 12:48 PM
I see no one else here can help with the Jimmie Johnson reference.

I think he is a race car driver. I am more familiar with Jimmy Johnson.

BadCat
10-22-2008, 12:49 PM
I see no one else here can help with the Jimmie Johnson reference.

Former coach of the Dallas Cowboys and then some lame Florida football team.

Rebel Yell
10-22-2008, 12:51 PM
Former coach of the Dallas Cowboys and then some lame Florida football team.

Head coach of a kick ass Florida team before coaching the Cowboys.

enslaved1
10-22-2008, 12:54 PM
Can somebody mass mail this to DU and everyone who is on Obama's mailing list?

super king
10-22-2008, 12:54 PM
Please cite any hate America sermons or hate Americans sermons screeched from either Hagee or Robertson.

You're opening a can of worms man.

linda22003
10-22-2008, 12:55 PM
OK. There's some uncertainty in our group as to which sport Mr. Johnson practices, but as long as it's a sport, it's not something I need to know. Thanks.

Shannon
10-22-2008, 12:56 PM
OK. There's some uncertainty in our group as to which sport Mr. Johnson practices, but as long as it's a sport, it's not something I need to know. Thanks.

Jimmie Johnson is a race car guy.

Jimmy Johnson is a football guy.

:D

noonwitch
10-22-2008, 01:29 PM
I'm sorry I forget, did Hagee baptize McCain's children and Robertson performed the marriage ceremony or was it the other way around. And does John McCain gather up his family every week and shuttle them to Hagee's church? Robertson's Church? Does he split equal time between the two?

Please cite any hate America sermons or hate Americans sermons screeched from either Hagee or Robertson.



I'd have to google for more, but shortly after 9-11, Jerry Falwell appeared on The 700 club and blamed the tragedy on gays and liberals. Pat Robertson agreed with him on the show, then took back his agreement after the comments hit the secular media. I consider that to be America-hating, in that it singles out groups of americans to blame for acts committed by foreigners.

I'm not necessarily defending Wright's comments, although I did grow up attending a UCC church and was familiar with him long before this election cycle. His church does a lot of good in Chicago-like most large, african american churches, TUCC has a food distribution program, a substance abuse treatment program, community activities like Girl Scouts, and offers other services to the neighborhood around the church. My sister attended it once on a sort of youth group field trip, and she enjoyed it a great deal. Trinity has an awesome choir, I am told.

I will say this-Wright assumes he is speaking for black americans when he makes those comments-whether he truly is speaking for them is another matter. Robertson thinks he is speaking for God. There's a big difference between those two perspectives.

JB
10-22-2008, 03:58 PM
I should have cut this piece down but I just enjoyed it so much. :pI went to the link hoping there was more. :D

MrsSmith
10-22-2008, 06:33 PM
I'd have to google for more, but shortly after 9-11, Jerry Falwell appeared on The 700 club and blamed the tragedy on gays and liberals. Pat Robertson agreed with him on the show, then took back his agreement after the comments hit the secular media. I consider that to be America-hating, in that it singles out groups of americans to blame for acts committed by foreigners.

I'm not necessarily defending Wright's comments, although I did grow up attending a UCC church and was familiar with him long before this election cycle. His church does a lot of good in Chicago-like most large, african american churches, TUCC has a food distribution program, a substance abuse treatment program, community activities like Girl Scouts, and offers other services to the neighborhood around the church. My sister attended it once on a sort of youth group field trip, and she enjoyed it a great deal. Trinity has an awesome choir, I am told.

I will say this-Wright assumes he is speaking for black americans when he makes those comments-whether he truly is speaking for them is another matter. Robertson thinks he is speaking for God. There's a big difference between those two perspectives.


I think your first paragraph would make more sense if you added the fact that Falwell believed God had lifted His protective hand from the US due to the tolerance shown for sin. Or at least, that would make it accurate. Intolerance is a 2-way street.

LogansPapa
10-22-2008, 07:04 PM
I think your first paragraph would make more sense if you added the fact that Falwell believed God had lifted His protective hand from the US due to the tolerance shown for sin. Or at least, that would make it accurate. Intolerance is a 2-way street.

What an utter load of self-righteous bullshit. I can only hope that when Christ returns he looks this rotten piece of excrement up - first thing. :mad:

MrsSmith
10-22-2008, 07:06 PM
What an utter load of self-righteous bullshit. I can only hope that when Christ returns he looks this rotten piece of excrement up - first thing. :mad:

I fully appreciate your tolerance of other's beliefs.

Eyelids
10-22-2008, 07:31 PM
I fully appreciate your tolerance of other's beliefs.

Its hard to be tolerant of Christianity when you're constantly forced to deal with all of it's insane supporters.

Shannon
10-22-2008, 07:35 PM
Its hard to be tolerant of Christianity when you're constantly forced to deal with all of it's insane supporters.

You are such an idiot. All Christians are insane? And how exactly are you forced to deal with them?

wilbur
10-22-2008, 07:43 PM
....if you sit behind a golden microphone.

Shannon
10-22-2008, 07:45 PM
....if you sit behind a golden microphone.

Your bizarre obsession/hatred for Rush has been duly noted.

wilbur
10-22-2008, 07:48 PM
I think your first paragraph would make more sense if you added the fact that Falwell believed God had lifted His protective hand from the US due to the tolerance shown for sin. Or at least, that would make it accurate. Intolerance is a 2-way street.

A lot of Christians believe this nonsense... I heard about this idea more than once in during my Roman Catholic upbringing... especially during Bill Clinton's presidency... that was a sign the "veil" had been lifted!

I guess God wasn't paying attention during pearl harbor. Or liked our tolerance of slavery more than he like our tolerance (or lack-there-of) of homosexuality... or perhaps he also like our treatment of the Indians... our decades of horrific child labor etc etc.

Here's a scary thought for those who believe such silly things about a 'veil of protection' (this comes from medjugorie visionaries btw)... we are living in possibly the most moral and just time in america's history.

Eyelids
10-22-2008, 07:54 PM
And how exactly are you forced to deal with them?

The way you guys influence legislation and try to inflict your disgusting moral code on me is inescapable. It's annoying that you guys think the only thing between us non-Christians and yourself is bothering us some more about how much you love your god.

Shannon
10-22-2008, 08:15 PM
The way you guys influence legislation and try to inflict your disgusting moral code on me is inescapable. It's annoying that you guys think the only thing between us non-Christians and yourself is bothering us some more about how much you love your god.

Disgusting moral code. Too funny.

Gingersnap
10-22-2008, 08:41 PM
The way you guys influence legislation and try to inflict your disgusting moral code on me is inescapable. It's annoying that you guys think the only thing between us non-Christians and yourself is bothering us some more about how much you love your god.

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MrsSmith
10-22-2008, 09:45 PM
A lot of Christians believe this nonsense... I heard about this idea more than once in during my Roman Catholic upbringing... especially during Bill Clinton's presidency... that was a sign the "veil" had been lifted!

I guess God wasn't paying attention during pearl harbor. Or liked our tolerance of slavery more than he like our tolerance (or lack-there-of) of homosexuality... or perhaps he also like our treatment of the Indians... our decades of horrific child labor etc etc.

Here's a scary thought for those who believe such silly things about a 'veil of protection' (this comes from medjugorie visionaries btw)... we are living in possibly the most moral and just time in america's history.

I'm sure you understand Him and His words way better than anyone else, wil. No, really. I mean it. Srsly. You have obviously spent years in careful study of Hebrew, Greek, the most ancient scrolls, and obviously know God a lot more than those weird Christian freaks.

At any rate, I didn't say Falwell was correct, I merely said that his beliefs were such and such. It's so sad to see the "tolerant" people being so, well, intolerant, of others. At least Falwell doesn't whack people's heads off when they disagree with him.

BadCat
10-22-2008, 10:06 PM
The way you guys influence legislation and try to inflict your disgusting moral code on me is inescapable. It's annoying that you guys think the only thing between us non-Christians and yourself is bothering us some more about how much you love your god.

What "disgusting" moral code are "they" inflicting on you?
I'm an atheist, and I think you're disgusting, so it's not just "them".

wilbur
10-22-2008, 11:06 PM
I'm sure you understand Him and His words way better than anyone else, wil. No, really. I mean it. Srsly. You have obviously spent years in careful study of Hebrew, Greek, the most ancient scrolls, and obviously know God a lot more than those weird Christian freaks.


Thank you!



At any rate, I didn't say Falwell was correct, I merely said that his beliefs were such and such. It's so sad to see the "tolerant" people being so, well, intolerant, of others. At least Falwell doesn't whack people's heads off when they disagree with him.

I wasnt really trying to imply that you claimed it was true. But... if Falwell were as marginalized as your typical desperate terrorist, I wouldn't count on him being so cuddly-wuddly.... heads would be rolling.

Eyelids
10-23-2008, 03:34 AM
Well, if you liked Christianity 5.0, you're going to love our new release: Islamic Sharia Law 2.5!

It's just as emotionally intrusive as Christianity 5.0 but with tons of new applications and complete bundling. When you buy Undergraduate Degree 2.0, you get Islamic Sharia Law for free. We now offer Turbo Islamic Sharia law as a suite whenever you buy Taxicab 1.0, Community Relations 4.0, or Labor Law 5.0!

At no additional charge we will upgrade Sharia Law 2.5 with our new Death To Western Feminism Pack at no charge to you!

That's right - disenfranchise women, disinherit pesky girl children, and arrange lucrative "marriages" between your unneeded female offspring and potentially valuable male associates. You pay nothing!

*Terms and conditions may apply. You must be a Muslim or Dhimmi in good standing. Offer not valid in Texas. See your Imam or Dhimmi Rep for details or other offers.*

And you cop out by bashing muslims. What I'm trying to say is any Theocracy is bad, and that's exactly what the Christians in America want.

Constitutionally Speaking
10-23-2008, 07:37 AM
I can't stand Sarah Silverman or James Dobson. I think that a man and a woman raising a family is great. I also think two women or two men raising a family is also great.


I think that Obama's association with Jeremiah Wright is fair game, but so is McCain's with Hagee, Robertson and the religious right.

But that would be inaccurate. The religious right has NEVER been a big supporter of McCain. They were one of the MAIN reasons he lost to Bush in 2000. Hell, Robertson loudly questioned if he could EVER support McCain and only reluctantly came aboard after .

Hagee etc ONLY came aboard because they had no other choice once the Republican primary narrowed. Obama, on the other hand was hired out right out of college to help Ayers run a multi-million dollar organization handing out money to radical groups and he called Wright his spiritual mentor - 20 years worth of mentoring by an America hating racist.


There is a HUGE difference - and it is not flattering to Obama.

Constitutionally Speaking
10-23-2008, 07:39 AM
And you cop out by bashing muslims. What I'm trying to say is any Theocracy is bad, and that's exactly what the Christians in America want.


Where the hell do you get that idiotic notion. Not a SINGLE Christian I know or even know OF wants this. The left is trying to scare you guys with this asinine notion.

The ONLY thing any significant Christian group is pushing for is a return to the CONSTITUTIONAL protections of our liberty.

You should support that effort.

Gingersnap
10-23-2008, 09:43 AM
And you cop out by bashing muslims. What I'm trying to say is any Theocracy is bad, and that's exactly what the Christians in America want.

It isn't the Christians demanding (and getting) workplace concessions to religion today; it's the Muslims where I live. The Christians aren't demanding separate swim times for men and women at community pools, the Christians aren't demanding special foods in schools or prisons, the Christians aren't refusing to serve consumers who buy pork or alcohol, and the Christians aren't stabbing people to death, destroying embassies, and torching property over "insults" to Christianity.

Being a card-carrying member of traditional Christianity, I can tell you that we have no interest in any theocracy. Why would we? Do you seriously believe that the Southern Baptists and the Greek Orthodox could ever agree on what that would look like?

No, thanks.

jediab
10-23-2008, 10:22 AM
The way you guys influence legislation and try to inflict your disgusting moral code on me is inescapable. It's annoying that you guys think the only thing between us non-Christians and yourself is bothering us some more about how much you love your god.

A libtard saying Christains have a disgusting moral code is really too funny.

jediab
10-23-2008, 10:28 AM
And you cop out by bashing muslims. What I'm trying to say is any Theocracy is bad, and that's exactly what the Christians in America want.

Ok then put up or shut up fucktard.

List for us in what ways Christians are trying to create a Theocracy. You jerkoff libs say this alot. So lets see you prove it.

BadCat
10-23-2008, 10:34 AM
Ok then put up or shut up fucktard.

List for us in what ways Christians are trying to create a Theocracy. You jerkoff libs say this alot. So lets see you prove it.

I already asked him that. The little lying fake has nothing. As usual.

jediab
10-23-2008, 10:36 AM
I already asked him that. The little lying fake has nothing. As usual.

Sorry I must have missed it. Didn't mean to step on your toes sir. ;)

enslaved1
10-23-2008, 10:38 AM
Its hard to be tolerant of Christianity when you're constantly forced to deal with all of it's insane supporters.

Tired of getting owned on race (http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?p=69437&posted=1#post69437), Blinky moved on to getting owned on religion.

Eyelids
10-23-2008, 12:49 PM
Ok then put up or shut up fucktard.

List for us in what ways Christians are trying to create a Theocracy. You jerkoff libs say this alot. So lets see you prove it.

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=California_Proposition_8_(2008)

enslaved1
10-23-2008, 01:13 PM
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=California_Proposition_8_(2008)

Oh noez, he produces a....blank wiki page as evidence! Your google fu sucks sour frog butt, as does your logic. How is asking the people of a state if they want to allow homosexuals to marry a theocratic takeover of America?

jediab
10-23-2008, 01:46 PM
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=California_Proposition_8_(2008)

You really are a retard arent ya? Gay marriage is not a religious issue, its a social issue. There are Christians and other religous groups on both sides, just like there are atheists on both sides.

Care to try again dipshit?