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Rockntractor
05-28-2015, 11:13 PM
On May 29, bikers in Pheonix, Arizona, are holding a “Draw Muhammad” contest outside the mosque at the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, which is where the two gunmen who opened fire in Garland, Texas, allegedly attended. Nadir Soofi and Elton Simpson drove from Phoenix to Garland and opened fire outside of the Curtis Culwell Center on May 3, while a Muhammad cartoon contest was being held. The two men were quickly killed by police working security at the event.
In the weeks since that event, numerous media pundits have criticized Pamela Geller for organizing the Muhammad cartoon contest to begin with. At what she described as her freedom of speech and expression, pundits recoiled and said she was asking for it by allegedly antagonizing Muslims.
For example, following the attack, The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/opinion/free-speech-vs-hate-speech.html?ref=opinion&_r=0) said Geller’s contest “was not really about free speech. It was an exercise in bigotry and hatred posing as a blow for freedom.” The paper tried to explain that those who see it otherwise are confusing “hate speech” with free speech.
Enter former Marine Jon Ritzheimer, who is organizing Friday’s “Draw Muhammad” contest in Phoenix.
According to Vocativ (http://www.vocativ.com/usa/guns/bikers-urged-to-bring-guns-to-draw-muhammad-contest-outside-mosque/), Ritzheimer says his contest is an exercise in free speech and is being held, in part, to respond to the “liberals” who criticized those gathered in Texas with Geller instead of criticizing the two Islamic men who walked up to a cartoon contest and opened fire.
Moe Hammad Cartoon>http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/28/phoenix-bikers-sponsor-draw-muhammad-contest-on-friday/

Retread
05-28-2015, 11:37 PM
BB needs a new proofreader

RobJohnson
05-29-2015, 03:58 AM
On May 29, bikers in Pheonix, Arizona, are holding a “Draw Muhammad” contest outside the mosque at the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, which is where the two gunmen who opened fire in Garland, Texas, allegedly attended.


I'm not sure this is a good idea.

noonwitch
05-29-2015, 09:12 AM
I'm not sure this is a good idea.


I know what you mean. I presume that the bikers have discussed their plans with the local police and security is being arranged?

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 09:14 AM
We will soon find out.

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 01:52 PM
Phoenix (CNN)Jon Ritzheimer is a former Marine, and he has no middle ground when it comes to Islam.

His T-shirt pretty much says it all: "F--- Islam."
Ritzheimer is the organizer of Friday's "Freedom of Speech Rally" outside the Islamic Community Center in Phoenix.
It's the mosque that Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/05/us/texas-shooting-gunmen/index.html) attended for a time. They're the men who drove from Arizona to a Dallas suburb to shoot up a Prophet Mohammed cartoon contest there. Both were killed by police early this month.
Many Muslims consider demeaning depictions of Mohammed to be blasphemous and banned by Islamic law. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/04/living/islam-prophet-images/index.html)
The rally"This is in response to the recent attack in Texas where 2 armed terrorist(s), with ties to ISIS, attempted Jihad," the event's Facebook page said (https://www.facebook.com/events/1630892790456240/).
Some 600 people say they're attending.
It's scheduled to start at 6:15 p.m., about the time evening prayers are taking place inside the center. The rally also features its own cartoon contest, similar to the one targeted in Texas.
"I think the whole thing, the cartoon contest especially, I think it's stupid and ridiculous," Ritzheimer said, "but it's what needs to take place in order to expose the true colors of Islam (http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/12/world/islam-fast-facts)."
D.C. Metro ending issue-oriented ads after Mohammed submission (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/pamela-geller-metro-mohammed-ad/index.html)
Phoenix police Chief Joe Yahner is personally involved in arranging public safety around the event, he told CNN affiliate KPHO. (http://www.kpho.com/story/29185938/phoenix-pd-chief-at-forefront-of-planning-for-rally-outside-islamic-center)
"There's a lot of things in the works. The intelligence related to the crowd is changing all the time," he said.
Gov. Doug Ducey hopes common sense will prevail in the event, he said.
"Of course I'm a believer in free speech and the First Amendment. I'm also a believer in good judgment and common sense," he told the affiliate.
Moe ham head>http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/29/us/mohammed-cartoon-contest/index.html

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 03:29 PM
BREAKING: ISLAMISTS THREATEN AZ Mohammad Cartoon Protesters! – POST ORGANIZER’S ADDRESS ONLINE! Posted by Jim Hoft on Friday, May 29, 2015, 8:24 AM
They’re threatening a bloody attack!…..
Armed bikers are planning an anti-Islamist protest (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/bikers-plan-armed-anti-islamist-protest-outside-terrorist-mosque-in-az/) on Friday at the Islamic Community Center in Phoenix, Arizona.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/breaking-islamists-threaten-az-mohammad-cartoon-protesters-post-organizers-address-online/

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 06:20 PM
Almost time for shoot out at the OK corral. I'm not sure when 6:30 is in penix?

Dori
05-29-2015, 07:19 PM
Almost time for shoot out at the OK corral. I'm not sure when 6:30 is in penix?

I hope there aren't any "special broadcasts" around that time.

Phoenix is an hour ahead of me on the left coast, and an hour behind TX time.

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 07:29 PM
I hope there aren't any "special broadcasts" around that time.

Phoenix is an hour ahead of me on the left coast, and an hour behind TX time.

I don't think they have daylight savings time

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Retread
05-29-2015, 07:46 PM
I don't think they have daylight savings time

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You are correct - they stay on Mountain Standard year round. It will be 45 minutes from now.

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 07:48 PM
4:45 in Penix, 1.5 hours till lock and load.

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 07:50 PM
You are correct - they stay on Mountain Standard year round. It will be 45 minutes from now.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/phoenix

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 07:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a0L3Z1A-RM

Dori
05-29-2015, 07:55 PM
I don't think they have daylight savings time


Your right. They are on my time 4:54 P.M.

Retread
05-29-2015, 08:04 PM
Forget first derivatives, I can't even subtract tonight! And I majored in math.

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 09:22 PM
Phoenix Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest: Latest updates from event, rally, law enforcement Live A former U.S. Marine has organized a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest in Phoenix, similar to the one held earlier this month in Garland, Texas, where two ISIS sympathizers opened fire before being shot and killed.The event is planned to be held Friday evening outside a Phoenix worship center.A former U.S. Marine and anti-Islam supporter has organized a "Freedom of Speech" rally and a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest outside the Islamic Community Center in Phoenix.

The rally is described as peaceful, but the Facebook event does encourage supporters to bring guns in anticipation of any backlash. Several law enforcement agencies have met to discuss safety procedures along with the Council on American-Islamic Relations Phoenix Chapter.

A similar cartoon contest was held in Texas earlier this month. Two men, both from Phoenix and believed to be ISIS sympathizers, opened fire outside the event before being shot and killed by police. This rally is planned in response to the Texas incident, according to the Facebook event page.
http://live.abc15.com/Event/Phoenix_Prophet_Muhammad_cartoon_contest_Latest_up dates_from_event_rally_law_enforcement

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 09:54 PM
Two groups of boring people separated by a line of police in riot gear.
http://www.infowars.com/infowars-on-the-ground-in-phoenix-at-mohammed-cartoon-contest/

NJCardFan
05-29-2015, 11:28 PM
I'm not sure this is a good idea.

So we should kowtow to the savages and not offend? They don't give 2 fucks about offending the "infidels" by beheading them. If one of these Islamic savages wants to confront me, I have about 15 little lead friends who would like to make their acquaintance.

NJCardFan
05-29-2015, 11:32 PM
You are correct - they stay on Mountain Standard year round. It will be 45 minutes from now.

I lived there for 3 years and during daylight savings time they're essentially on pacific time. I used to love watching NFL games at 10am.

Retread
05-29-2015, 11:34 PM
Warning! thread jack!


The entire country should follow their lead and toss "savings time" in the dumpster.

Rockntractor
05-29-2015, 11:35 PM
Warning! thread jack!


The entire country should follow their lead and toss "savings time" in the dumpster.

Agreed

Dori
05-30-2015, 10:34 AM
Well, I see nothing happened. That's good. I wonder why they bothered with the cartoon thingy, when it was about confronting the Mosque where the TX terrorists attended. That's what they should have brought attention to.

Start protesting these Mosques who turn out radicals. Maybe it will send a message to them that even if the government is going to ignore them, the citizens aren't.

djones520
05-30-2015, 10:36 AM
So we should kowtow to the savages and not offend? They don't give 2 fucks about offending the "infidels" by beheading them. If one of these Islamic savages wants to confront me, I have about 15 little lead friends who would like to make their acquaintance.

Should you kick a bear in the nuts just because it's your right to?

That's nice that you want to "introduce your 15 friends", but do you think all the bystanders there agree with your stance? They'd be in just as much danger.

Rockntractor
05-30-2015, 11:40 AM
Should you kick a bear in the nuts just because it's your right to?

That's nice that you want to "introduce your 15 friends", but do you think all the bystanders there agree with your stance? They'd be in just as much danger.

Bad analogy, physical attacks illegal free speech self explanatory

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Rockntractor
05-30-2015, 11:42 AM
You play in our sandbox by our rules or you take your shovel and pail and go home


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djones520
05-30-2015, 11:48 AM
Bad analogy, physical attacks illegal free speech self explanatory

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I disagree. These fanaticists look at insults to Mohammed as even worse then physical attacks. We have no shortage of examples of this...

Don't get me wrong. These assholes need to learn how to untwist their panties, but the truth of the matter is such events do create an "opportunity" where the bad guys get the justification that they need to do bad things.

It's like when ISIS was going around saying they were going to attack military families. Me personally, I'd welcome the chance, if I lived in a vacuum. I don't though. I have a wife and children. I don't have the right to stand on my porch, thump my chest, and shout "COME AT ME BRO!".

Dori
05-30-2015, 12:00 PM
This protest wasn't about free speech or cartoons - It was about this particular Mosque

Phoenix: Mosque Attended by Garland Jihadis Spawned Two Other Terrorists

Simpson and Soofi were not the only two terrorists spawned from ICCP. Two other previous ICCP mosque attendees — Hassan Abu-Jihaad and Derrick Shareef — are currently in federal prison on terrorism-related charges.


http://pamelageller.com/2015/05/phoenix-mosque-attended-by-garland-jihadis-spawned-two-other-terrorists.html/#sthash.VDW9ifhi.dpuf

SarasotaRepub
05-30-2015, 01:07 PM
Should you kick a bear in the nuts just because it's your right to?




https://youtu.be/etzvPYMUpeU


:biggrin-new:

Lanie
05-30-2015, 02:54 PM
I'm not sure this is a good idea.

I have to agree. That's sort of being in their face, trying to provoke a fight.

I do think if nobody got shot, it means those gunmen didn't necessarily agree with what the gunmen did.

Lanie
05-30-2015, 02:58 PM
This protest wasn't about free speech or cartoons - It was about this particular Mosque

Phoenix: Mosque Attended by Garland Jihadis Spawned Two Other Terrorists

Simpson and Soofi were not the only two terrorists spawned from ICCP. Two other previous ICCP mosque attendees — Hassan Abu-Jihaad and Derrick Shareef — are currently in federal prison on terrorism-related charges.


http://pamelageller.com/2015/05/phoenix-mosque-attended-by-garland-jihadis-spawned-two-other-terrorists.html/#sthash.VDW9ifhi.dpuf

Well, I guess I take back what I said about attenders not agreeing with the gunmen. Sheesh.

NJCardFan
05-30-2015, 03:14 PM
Should you kick a bear in the nuts just because it's your right to?

That's nice that you want to "introduce your 15 friends", but do you think all the bystanders there agree with your stance? They'd be in just as much danger.

So we should just dig a hole, bury our heads, and try not to offend the savages. Got it. Goodbye free speech then.

NJCardFan
05-30-2015, 03:15 PM
I disagree. These fanaticists look at insults to Mohammed as even worse then physical attacks. We have no shortage of examples of this...

Don't get me wrong. These assholes need to learn how to untwist their panties, but the truth of the matter is such events do create an "opportunity" where the bad guys get the justification that they need to do bad things.

It's like when ISIS was going around saying they were going to attack military families. Me personally, I'd welcome the chance, if I lived in a vacuum. I don't though. I have a wife and children. I don't have the right to stand on my porch, thump my chest, and shout "COME AT ME BRO!".

You jumped on Lanie for this. Are you saying I don't have a wife and child or I don't care about their safety?

NJCardFan
05-30-2015, 03:17 PM
I have to agree. That's sort of being in their face, trying to provoke a fight.

I do think if nobody got shot, it means those gunmen didn't necessarily agree with what the gunmen did.

My guess is that nothing happened because it was encouraged that the anti-Jihadist protesters carry a firearm. The savages knew that it wouldn't end well for them so they didn't attack. Kind of hard to try to be violent toward someone capable of defending themselves.

oldcoastie1
05-31-2015, 11:38 AM
Muzzies don't like the odds when there are organized blocs against them.