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oldcoastie1
06-23-2015, 11:22 AM
What are everyone's feelings about the Confederate Flag bruhahah going on in South Carolina?


hhttp://theweek.com/articles/562004/surprisingly-uncomplicated-racist-history-confederate-flagttp:// (http://theweek.com/articles/562004/surprisingly-uncomplicated-racist-history-confederate-flagttp://)


http://www.moc.org/collections-archives/flags-confederacy

SarasotaRepub
06-23-2015, 01:44 PM
If someone wants to display it on their property I have no problem with it.

If a state wants to display it in the Capital I think it should
be put up to a simple Yes/No vote.

And if the vote is Yes, than everyone else should STFU.

oldcoastie1
06-23-2015, 03:00 PM
If someone wants to display it on their property I have no problem with it.

If a state wants to display it in the Capital I think it should
be put up to a simple Yes/No vote.

And if the vote is Yes, than everyone else should STFU.

I agree. We're talking about States' Rights.

RobJohnson
06-23-2015, 03:12 PM
States rights.

There was already a compromise in SC as where the flag was placed a few years ago.

It's too bad several "groups of hate" hijacked the flag many years ago. More people are paying attention to the "hate history" then the true history of the Confederate flag and what the part it has played in it's original history.

FourWinds
06-23-2015, 06:46 PM
I think they should put it on a ballot. However as far as the situation itself is concerned, this is a huge stink which seems to have come out of nowhere. It makes me wonder what is going coming from right field while everyone is looking left.

SaintLouieWoman
06-23-2015, 06:54 PM
Amazing how all the vendors are dropping selling the flag. I heard on the radio that Amazon was still selling them---and their sales were up 5000%. Within a short period of time, heard they were also dropping the sales of the flags.

I was at a little museum in the Atlanta area some years ago and purchased a little confederate soldier teddy bear dressed in grey. I guess I'd best hang on to it as a collector's item. I'm sure the hate mongers will make that illegal, too.

patriot45
06-23-2015, 06:56 PM
What are everyone's feelings about the Confederate Flag bruhahah going on in South Carolina?


hhttp://theweek.com/articles/562004/surprisingly-uncomplicated-racist-history-confederate-flagttp:// (http://theweek.com/articles/562004/surprisingly-uncomplicated-racist-history-confederate-flagttp://)


http://www.moc.org/collections-archives/flags-confederacy

Well here in Florida we got a big one flying by I-4 and 275, everyone gets to see it. It is on private property with all the right permits, so it stays.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i230/patriot45270/1%20mango%20chipotle%20chicken/confederate%20flag_zpspfpd2q9m.jpg

Retread
06-23-2015, 10:06 PM
http://www.eccentricbliss.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Confederate-Flag-Charleston.jpg

Lanie
06-23-2015, 10:32 PM
I don't consider somebody a racist for flying the confederate flag although I don't agree with what they're saying. We live in the United States, not the Confederate States. Yes, it was about separating from the union and not about slavery, but what was causing so many states rights issues? Mostly slavery. You might notice you don't see any black people flying the confederate flag. That's because it means something different to them. To them, that flag means the defense of slavery and not southern heritage.

I personally think white southerners need to get over the fact that we lost the civil war. Next, I am disturbed that while other flags were lowered half mass after the Charleston shootings that the confederate flag was not lowered. I'll admit that made me think it was a symbol of racism after all. Why wasn't that flag lowered?

I have friends who fly the confederate flag. I have one who sports one on his car on one of his plates. I've hung out with him a whole lot over the past five years. I understand that some people sincerely see it as part of their southern heritage. I have no problem with people flying it in their homes. If they want to pay money to put it on their license plates, then I have no problem with that. I do personally think we shouldn't have it flying over public places. It's not our country's flag. It's not our state flag. It's just a flag that's upsetting some of its tax paying citizens.

Rockntractor
06-23-2015, 10:47 PM
Why do we let a small minority of people dictate to the rest of us what we'll do?

FourWinds
06-23-2015, 10:54 PM
You might notice you don't see any black people flying the confederate flag. That's because it means something different to them. To them, that flag means the defense of slavery and not southern heritage.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/09/01/former-civil-rights-leader-defends-flying-confederate-flag/

http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/06/23/confederate-flag-debate-south-carolina-byron-thomas-intv-wrn.cnn


Not to all of them. For your reading and viewing pleasure.

NJCardFan
06-23-2015, 10:56 PM
How long before the Gadsden flag is targeted?

NJCardFan
06-23-2015, 11:07 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/09/01/former-civil-rights-leader-defends-flying-confederate-flag/

http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/06/23/confederate-flag-debate-south-carolina-byron-thomas-intv-wrn.cnn


Not to all of them. For your reading and viewing pleasure.

What the left doesn't like to admit or even know(like the fact that there were white slaves and black slave owners) is that there were entire regiments of black Confederate soldiers. The 54th Massachusetts gets the glory(pun intended) but there were black soldiers defending the Confederacy:

http://i1.wp.com/thisiswarblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/xreu5qqt94xzwqc.jpg

https://abiasedperspective.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/blackconfederatesoldier1.jpg

And here are more blacks not flying the Confederate flag:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/doramu13/black_confederates.jpg

Dan D. Doty
06-23-2015, 11:21 PM
How long before the Gadsden flag is targeted?

Not long.

FourWinds
06-23-2015, 11:25 PM
Not long.

Oh it's coming. They just learned for certain that if you shout loud enough at your target, you get what you want. I'm concerned about where this slippery slope is going to lead to.

SarasotaRepub
06-24-2015, 12:06 AM
Well here in Florida we got a big one flying by I-4 and 275, everyone gets to see it. It is on private property with all the right permits, so it stays.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i230/patriot45270/1%20mango%20chipotle%20chicken/confederate%20flag_zpspfpd2q9m.jpg

Ha!! I was trying to find that pic!!! We've driven by that
flag many times.

SaintLouieWoman
06-24-2015, 12:23 AM
Why do we let a small minority of people dictate to the rest of us what we'll do?
Ask Obama.

Lanie
06-24-2015, 01:01 AM
Why do we let a small minority of people dictate to the rest of us what we'll do?

Since blacks are only 12 percent of the population, are you saying their feelings should never matter?

BTW, people taking up for the confederate flag so much don't speak for all whites. Mitt Romney thinks it should be taken down. Truth is if SC were to have that ballot question, I'm not sure if most of them would vote in favor of it being hung in public.

Lanie
06-24-2015, 01:15 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/09/01/former-civil-rights-leader-defends-flying-confederate-flag/

http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/06/23/confederate-flag-debate-south-carolina-byron-thomas-intv-wrn.cnn


Not to all of them. For your reading and viewing pleasure.

Yeah, I know. You find a few who feel differently, and that's okay. This from the article made me laugh.


Despite the fact that he is the former Asheville, North Carolina NAACP president, Edgerton argues that the flag is not a symbol of hatred, but rather represents the South and Christianity.

What? Really? The confederate flag represents Christianity? How?

Here's another article of interest.

http://authenticenlightenment.com/2015/06/23/no-the-confederate-flag-does-not-stand-for-racism-or-slavery/

This made the more liberal side of me think about this some, although some here might be offended.


There is nothing racist about that. What someone wants to make the flag mean to them, is their choice, but if you’re going to try to tell me that it’s about racism, slavery, hatred, and white supremacy, I’m going to call you ignorant. I’m also going to tell you that if you want to go down this road, you better be prepared to compare it to the US Flag.


So if you are waiving a US Flag around while complaining about the “Confederate” flag, you better be doing some studying.

So, it occurred to me that some Native Americans might see the US flag as a symbol of genocide. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A flag represents a place that has both good and bad to it.

Rockntractor
06-24-2015, 08:26 AM
Since blacks are only 12 percent of the population, are you saying their feelings should never matter?

BTW, people taking up for the confederate flag so much don't speak for all whites. Mitt Romney thinks it should be taken down. Truth is if SC were to have that ballot question, I'm not sure if most of them would vote in favor of it being hung in public.









This has nothing to do with black feelings, that's idiotic. People manufacturer their own feelings.

noonwitch
06-24-2015, 09:06 AM
I think it is a symbol of treason, racism and slavery. The right thing to do is for the states that currently fly it over their capitol buildings to take down their confederate flags and donate them to civil war museums and confederate graveyards. But it should be their choice to do so-compelling people to do so really doesn't change anyone's heart or mind.


Whatever happened to the General Lee, anyways? Is it in a museum somewhere?

Retread
06-24-2015, 10:06 AM
I think it is a symbol of treason, racism and slavery. The right thing to do is for the states that currently fly it over their capitol buildings to take down their confederate flags and donate them to civil war museums and confederate graveyards. But it should be their choice to do so-compelling people to do so really doesn't change anyone's heart or mind.


Whatever happened to the General Lee, anyways? Is it in a museum somewhere?

Sounding more and more like a narrow minded DU'er every day. Mr Thomas and Edgerton have it right.

Lanie
06-24-2015, 10:18 AM
This has nothing to do with black feelings, that's idiotic. People manufacturer their own feelings.

Says the white guy.

Lanie
06-24-2015, 10:21 AM
Sounding more and more like a narrow minded DU'er every day. Mr Thomas and Edgerton have it right.

Why do we have to support the confederate flag? Why can't we have our own mind about it?

And BTW, it was treason. The states separated from the union. I'm not justifying starting a war over that, but that's exactly what the so called "south" did. And BTW, confederacy wasn't necessarily south. It was people who wanted to leave the union, mostly slave states.

It was out preserving the union, but you need to be honest and ask yourself what we were often fighting about those days.

And once again, I don't care if people fly it over their home or public property. Pay the state money for your own license plate. We need the revenue. I just don't see why it needs to be over our courthouses and so forth.

noonwitch
06-24-2015, 11:48 AM
Sounding more and more like a narrow minded DU'er every day. Mr Thomas and Edgerton have it right.


I'm not demanding that the traitor flag be removed. I'm just hoping that it is.

FourWinds
06-24-2015, 12:36 PM
Says the white guy.

So his opinion isn't valid because he's white. Nice.

NJCardFan
06-24-2015, 12:36 PM
Since blacks are only 12 percent of the population, are you saying their feelings should never matter?

BTW, people taking up for the confederate flag so much don't speak for all whites. Mitt Romney thinks it should be taken down. Truth is if SC were to have that ballot question, I'm not sure if most of them would vote in favor of it being hung in public.

Because liberals want it both ways depending on the issue. When it comes to this idiotic flag issue, only a small minority want it removed so it's being removed but when it comes to Obamacare, a majority want it repealed but the left scream, scratch, and cry because it hurts the minority who need it. And, since you glossed over contrary remarks, whites aren't the only one's who take pride in the rebel flag.

FourWinds
06-24-2015, 12:43 PM
I think it is a symbol of treason, racism and slavery. The right thing to do is for the states that currently fly it over their capitol buildings to take down their confederate flags and donate them to civil war museums and confederate graveyards. But it should be their choice to do so-compelling people to do so really doesn't change anyone's heart or mind.


Whatever happened to the General Lee, anyways? Is it in a museum somewhere?

That's a pretty broad view. I have the flag tattooed on my rib cage. Yet I'm jewish (Messianic, but still) the woman I hope to marry one say is African American and I served in both the airforce and army faithfully for 11 years. So by your logic, I support racism and treason.

Dlr Pyro
06-24-2015, 12:46 PM
I think it is a symbol of treason, racism and slavery.

YOU think it is a symbol of treason, racism, and slavery. Many of us do not. I see it as a part of this Nation's history and do not feel that history should be buried or banned simply because of how some people think or feel.

I'm not a fan of the rainbow flag but have never demanded it be banned or taken down.

Live and let live.

noonwitch
06-24-2015, 12:54 PM
YOU think it is a symbol of treason, racism, and slavery. Many of us do not. I see it as a part of this Nation's history and do not feel that history should be buried or banned simply because of how some people think or feel.

I'm not a fan of the rainbow flag but have never demanded it be banned or taken down.

Live and let live.

Exactly. I'm not demanding that it be taken down or not sold anymore. I'm just stating my opinion regarding it.

oldcoastie1
06-24-2015, 01:30 PM
What about the gay flag that flies everywhere?

Dori
06-24-2015, 01:40 PM
It makes me wonder what is going coming from right field while everyone is looking left.

Mitch McConnell already pulled that one out of his double dealing bag of tricks.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-23/mitch-mcconnell-wants-to-remove-jefferson-davis-statue-from-kentucky-capitol

txradioguy
06-24-2015, 02:37 PM
So his opinion isn't valid because he's white. Nice.
Lanie is letting her tradi Liberal racist roots shine through.

It's in the Democrat DNA.

txradioguy
06-24-2015, 02:38 PM
I'm not demanding that the traitor flag be removed. I'm just hoping that it is.
Traitor Flag? You're more historically ignorant than I previously realized.

Lanie
06-24-2015, 02:57 PM
Racist roots and Democrat DNA?

I'm going to write that down. I might need that if I ever do a stand-up comedy act.

Of course I care about Rocks opinion! I care about his opinion more than most others here. I just think he's not really being sensitive.

linda22003
06-24-2015, 03:00 PM
What? Really? The confederate flag represents Christianity? How?






Presumably because it's in the shape of a St. Andrew's Cross? But it's not Scottish, either. :cool:

Adam Wood
06-24-2015, 03:04 PM
What about the gay flag that flies everywhere?

Well, as a matter of fact (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/23/take-down-the-fascist-anti-christian-gay-pride-flag/)....


If the overwhelming majority in this country ever actually took it to their hearts, they could go about pretty much stamping out all of this sort of expression.

Adam Wood
06-24-2015, 03:09 PM
Since blacks are only 12 percent of the population, are you saying their feelings should never matter? No, the small minority is not the set of "Blacks." It's the tiny subset of "professionally-offended Leftist kooks," which typically has a much higher percentage of pearl-clutching white Leftists who have nothing better to do than try to find a way to get offended at everything they see on behalf of other people. They gin up the Black grievance industry blabbermouths to go shout at the TV cameras when in fact most ordinary, everyday Black people don't give a shit about the stars and bars one way or the other.

This is exactly no different than the tiny handful of white Leftists who are all bent out of shape over the Washington Redskins, when in fact almost all actual native peoples actually like the team name and don't want the team re-named on their behalf.



It's all stupid, reactionary, emotional Leftist bullshit, plain and simple.

Lanie
06-24-2015, 03:14 PM
No, the small minority is not the set of "Blacks." It's the tiny subset of "professionally-offended Leftist kooks," which typically has a much higher percentage of pearl-clutching white Leftists who have nothing better to do than try to find a way to get offended at everything they see on behalf of other people. They gin up the Black grievance industry blabbermouths to go shout at the TV cameras when in fact most ordinary, everyday Black people don't give a shit about the stars and bars one way or the other.

This is exactly no different than the tiny handful of white Leftists who are all bent out of shape over the Washington Redskins, when in fact almost all actual native peoples actually like the team name and don't want the team re-named on their behalf.



It's all stupid, reactionary, emotional Leftist bullshit, plain and simple.

This is not just white leftists and you know it.

Adam Wood
06-24-2015, 03:14 PM
Racist roots and Democrat DNA?

I'm going to write that down. I might need that if I ever do a stand-up comedy act. Fritz Hollings, who originally hoisted the Confederate flag over the South Carolina Capitol? Democrat.

Robert Byrd? Democrat.

Bull Connor? Democrat.

Al Gore, Sr.? Democrat.

George Wallace? Democrat.



And no, the Southern Democrats did not all suddenly turn into Republicans after the Civil Rights Act was passed. That's just a Leftist lie that has never held any water.

Adam Wood
06-24-2015, 03:16 PM
This is not just white leftists and you know it.Of course not. Like I said, the Black grievance industry has charged in as well. They're the ever-willing accomplices of the White liberal guilt crowd.

txradioguy
06-24-2015, 03:26 PM
Fritz Hollings, who originally hoisted the Confederate flag over the South Carolina Capitol? Democrat.

Robert Byrd? Democrat.

Bull Connor? Democrat.

Al Gore, Sr.? Democrat.

George Wallace? Democrat.



And no, the Southern Democrats did not all suddenly turn into Republicans after the Civil Rights Act was passed. That's just a Leftist lie that has never held any water.
Add Saint BillyJeff to that list. The man who signed Arkansas Confederate Flag Day commemoration into law.

Lanie is proof positive of the abject ignorance of modern Liberals when it comes to factual history.

noonwitch
06-24-2015, 03:27 PM
Fritz Hollings, who originally hoisted the Confederate flag over the South Carolina Capitol? Democrat.

Robert Byrd? Democrat.

Bull Connor? Democrat.

Al Gore, Sr.? Democrat.

George Wallace? Democrat.



And no, the Southern Democrats did not all suddenly turn into Republicans after the Civil Rights Act was passed. That's just a Leftist lie that has never held any water.

The Dixiecrats started leaving the democratic party after the Civil Rights Act passed. The rest left when Reagan was elected.

Both Robert Byrd and George Wallace repented of their racist pasts, for whatever that's worth.

txradioguy
06-24-2015, 03:30 PM
The Dixiecrats started leaving the democratic party after the Civil Rights Act passed. The rest left when Reagan was elected.

Both Robert Byrd and George Wallace repented of their racist pasts, for whatever that's worth.
That's a Liberal lie that's been passed down for decades.

And one you seem willing to continue telling.

The ONLY Dixiecrat that switched parties was Strom Thurmond.

txradioguy
06-24-2015, 03:31 PM
The Dixiecrats started leaving the democratic party after the Civil Rights Act passed. The rest left when Reagan was elected.

Both Robert Byrd and George Wallace repented of their racist pasts, for whatever that's worth.
Was Byrd remove before or after he talked about "white ******s" on ABC's "This Week"?

txradioguy
06-24-2015, 03:43 PM
What I find amusing where Liberals are concerned is they are under the same false belief with this issue that they are with gun control.

They think banning the "Rebel Flag" will stop racism.

It won't. It's not the flag that's racist. Liberals don't seem to comprehend this fact.

Hell the flag in question wasn't the official CSA flag anyway.

Lanie
06-24-2015, 04:14 PM
Fritz Hollings, who originally hoisted the Confederate flag over the South Carolina Capitol? Democrat.

Robert Byrd? Democrat.

Bull Connor? Democrat.

Al Gore, Sr.? Democrat.

George Wallace? Democrat.



And no, the Southern Democrats did not all suddenly turn into Republicans after the Civil Rights Act was passed. That's just a Leftist lie that has never held any water.

But I'm not a racist. Neither racism or being a Democrat is in my DNA. Come on now.

I'm not here to argue Republicans are racist. I'm on your side sort of. Just not on every little thing about the confederate flag.

Eupher
06-24-2015, 05:13 PM
I'm in the "live and let live" crowd.

Political correctness and this side issue that came out of the Charleston shootings is just more smokescreen and ways to divide us.

As to this particular battle flag, it means nothing to me. I couldn't care less one way or the other. If somebody wants to fly it, hey, that's a 1st Amendment right. If somebody's offended by it, tough shit.

Westboro Baptist Church offends me, but I have to put up with those assholes.

RobJohnson
06-24-2015, 05:42 PM
I think it is a symbol of treason, racism and slavery. The right thing to do is for the states that currently fly it over their capitol buildings to take down their confederate flags and donate them to civil war museums and confederate graveyards. But it should be their choice to do so-compelling people to do so really doesn't change anyone's heart or mind.


Whatever happened to the General Lee, anyways? Is it in a museum somewhere?

SC no longer has the flag flying over their capitol building, it was moved to a memorial garden a few years ago.

The General Lee toy replicas will no longer be produced with the flag on the roof. I knew those Duke boys were racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RobJohnson
06-24-2015, 05:43 PM
Giving the Confederate Flag the death penalty won't end violence.

RobJohnson
06-24-2015, 05:44 PM
I see a lot of old photos online of the KKK carrying the American flag only. Will it be banned next?

Rockntractor
06-24-2015, 05:46 PM
I see a lot of old photos online of the KKK carrying the American flag only. Will it be banned next?
Americans will soon be banned.

RobJohnson
06-24-2015, 05:47 PM
Americans will soon be banned.

Yup.

oldcoastie1
06-25-2015, 09:31 AM
The entire world is self-destructing, and some people discuss a flag as holding the rest of the world hostage.

Stupidity reigns!

noonwitch
06-25-2015, 10:59 AM
SC no longer has the flag flying over their capitol building, it was moved to a memorial garden a few years ago.

The General Lee toy replicas will no longer be produced with the flag on the roof. I knew those Duke boys were racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why were they always running from the law? What crimes were they covering up? I assume in retrospect that they were transporting Uncle Jessie's homemade hooch, and that as Boss Hogg had the only liquour license in Hazzard County, he didn't like any competition. I hated that show, but as a teenaged babysitter in those days, it was one of those things I endured for the sake of a peaceful bedtime. It didn't hurt that Bo and Duke were handsome, though.

RobJohnson
06-25-2015, 05:38 PM
Why were they always running from the law? What crimes were they covering up? I assume in retrospect that they were transporting Uncle Jessie's homemade hooch, and that as Boss Hogg had the only liquour license in Hazzard County, he didn't like any competition. I hated that show, but as a teenaged babysitter in those days, it was one of those things I endured for the sake of a peaceful bedtime. It didn't hurt that Bo and Duke were handsome, though.


:biggrin-new:

Zathras
06-26-2015, 09:53 AM
Whatever happened to the General Lee, anyways? Is it in a museum somewhere?

Well, there are 17 of the 350 General Lee's they used for the TV series left in various states of repair, according to Wikipedia.

History of the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazzard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Lee_(car))

NJCardFan
06-26-2015, 11:14 PM
Why do we have to support the confederate flag? Why can't we have our own mind about it?

And BTW, it was treason. The states separated from the union. I'm not justifying starting a war over that, but that's exactly what the so called "south" did. And BTW, confederacy wasn't necessarily south. It was people who wanted to leave the union, mostly slave states.

It was out preserving the union, but you need to be honest and ask yourself what we were often fighting about those days.

And once again, I don't care if people fly it over their home or public property. Pay the state money for your own license plate. We need the revenue. I just don't see why it needs to be over our courthouses and so forth.

Perhaps you should read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution before saying such things. Also, it's not about the flag. The flag is just a symbol. The issue is free speech. When you censor one thing it starts the ball rolling down a slippery slope. As I said before, is the Gadsden flag next? After all it's the flag that was adopted by the Tea Party, a group that has been falsely accused of being outwardly racist(even though there are many, many people of color who support it). Are you going to be OK with that? Are you proud that your ilk wants Gone with the Wind, the Dukes of Hazzard, Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben's, and other products gone? Why is it that majority only rules when it comes to liberal causes? Why doesn't the door swing both ways? You're ilk is destroying this country. I'm not a Southerner(50% is as my mother was born and raised in Greensboro, NC but I digress) but I'm tempted to buy a Confederate battle flag and fly it high over my house.

Retread
06-26-2015, 11:26 PM
Why do we have to support the confederate flag? Why can't we have our own mind about it?

And BTW, it was treason. The states separated from the union. I'm not justifying starting a war over that, but that's exactly what the so called "south" did. And BTW, confederacy wasn't necessarily south. It was people who wanted to leave the union, mostly slave states.

It was out preserving the union, but you need to be honest and ask yourself what we were often fighting about those days.

And once again, I don't care if people fly it over their home or public property. Pay the state money for your own license plate. We need the revenue. I just don't see why it needs to be over our courthouses and so forth.

It's not 'supporting' the flag. it's supporting the free speech involved in each individual choosing what to use, display or say.

It was not treason and anyone who believes that needs to expand their history reading beyond the writings of the yankee elite.

It was never about slavery until some of the lords of industry propping up dishonest abe wanted it to be - several months after the invasion of SC. If it were then it's even worse because the world knew of at least a half-dozen good ways to eliminate slavery without anyone being shot, blown up or bankrupted. Governments around the world had already succeeded in doing so.

oldcoastie1
06-26-2015, 11:33 PM
Why do we have to support the confederate flag? Why can't we have our own mind about it?

And BTW, it was treason. The states separated from the union. I'm not justifying starting a war over that, but that's exactly what the so called "south" did. And BTW, confederacy wasn't necessarily south. It was people who wanted to leave the union, mostly slave states.

It was out preserving the union, but you need to be honest and ask yourself what we were often fighting about those days.

And once again, I don't care if people fly it over their home or public property. Pay the state money for your own license plate. We need the revenue. I just don't see why it needs to be over our courthouses and so forth.

Wow! The resident liberal speaks!

Hawkgirl
06-27-2015, 05:32 PM
With this logic, we should ban the islamic flag from being sold in the US...it's representative of hate, specifically of the infide and the jewl...ban it from being sold anywhere in the US.

Lanie
06-27-2015, 06:09 PM
Perhaps you should read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution before saying such things. Also, it's not about the flag. The flag is just a symbol. The issue is free speech. When you censor one thing it starts the ball rolling down a slippery slope. As I said before, is the Gadsden flag next? After all it's the flag that was adopted by the Tea Party, a group that has been falsely accused of being outwardly racist(even though there are many, many people of color who support it). Are you going to be OK with that? Are you proud that your ilk wants Gone with the Wind, the Dukes of Hazzard, Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben's, and other products gone? Why is it that majority only rules when it comes to liberal causes? Why doesn't the door swing both ways? You're ilk is destroying this country. I'm not a Southerner(50% is as my mother was born and raised in Greensboro, NC but I digress) but I'm tempted to buy a Confederate battle flag and fly it high over my house.

Why did the Tea Party adopt it? I don't any blacks who support it (not personally).

My official position:

I personally don't like the flag, but who cares? It shouldn't be censored and sales should not stop.

I think the only flags that should fly on government property is the U.S. flag and the state flag. No confederate flag, no Islamic flag, no Christian flag, no rainbow flag, and no Duke University flag.

I also think it was wrong for Obama to light up the White House in a rainbow last night because it's public property and not private. Only flags that represent our current government should be on government property.

If it's private, then buy it and fly it high. I do support the right of that person in Florida to hang the confederate flag up on the highway since it's his property.

RobJohnson
06-27-2015, 07:32 PM
With this logic, we should ban the islamic flag from being sold in the US...it's representative of hate, specifically of the infide and the jewl...ban it from being sold anywhere in the US.

Excellent point

Apache
06-27-2015, 10:32 PM
Why did the Tea Party adopt it? I don't any blacks who support it (not personally).

My official position:

I personally don't like the flag, but who cares? It shouldn't be censored and sales should not stop.

I think the only flags that should fly on government property is the U.S. flag and the state flag. No confederate flag, no Islamic flag, no Christian flag, no rainbow flag, and no Duke University flag.

I also think it was wrong for Obama to light up the White House in a rainbow last night because it's public property and not private. Only flags that represent our current government should be on government property.

If it's private, then buy it and fly it high. I do support the right of that person in Florida to hang the confederate flag up on the highway since it's his property.

The TEA Party never adopted the " Stars and Bars"..... the "confederate flag".... we adopted the "Gaston Flag".... Don't tread on Me.....



Lanie.... pray for your Church.... we are next....\

ABC
06-27-2015, 10:42 PM
The TEA Party never adopted the " Stars and Bars"..... the "confederate flag".... we adopted the "Gaston Flag".... Don't tread on Me.....

Thank you, thank you! ...

Being a T.E.A. Party supporter, I wanted to come in and say that earlier on, but didn't.

txradioguy
06-28-2015, 05:56 AM
Not being able to tell the difference between a CSA Naval flag and the Gadsden Flag highlights perfectly not only the lack of real history being taught in schools these days but the absolute bullshit spit out and believed as fact by the Libtards in this country.

Lanie
06-28-2015, 01:46 PM
The TEA Party never adopted the " Stars and Bars"..... the "confederate flag".... we adopted the "Gaston Flag".... Don't tread on Me.....



Lanie.... pray for your Church.... we are next....\

I'm not treading on anybody. I don't consider people racist for supporting the confederate flag of any type. I would be interested in learning more about the history of the confederate flag now, but I usually want to live and let live. The truth is that a huge part of me doesn't give a shit unless people are fighting over it. Same goes with other topics. Seriously.

I'll pray for our churches. I'm not sure if any of it will be as bad as speculated, but I'm going to pray. I think we should also pray for people who kill blacks, burn churches, declare that people related to white masters need to die, and radicals that want to cut off Christian heads or throw gays off of roofs. Crazy mofos need prayers more than the rest of us at times.

I think I'm tired. I'm babbling.

NJCardFan
06-28-2015, 04:19 PM
Why did the Tea Party adopt it? I don't any blacks who support it (not personally).

My official position:

I personally don't like the flag, but who cares? It shouldn't be censored and sales should not stop.

I think the only flags that should fly on government property is the U.S. flag and the state flag. No confederate flag, no Islamic flag, no Christian flag, no rainbow flag, and no Duke University flag.

I also think it was wrong for Obama to light up the White House in a rainbow last night because it's public property and not private. Only flags that represent our current government should be on government property.

If it's private, then buy it and fly it high. I do support the right of that person in Florida to hang the confederate flag up on the highway since it's his property.

The TEA Party never adopted the Confederate battle flag. The TEA Party flag of choice is the Gadsden flag:

https://owlworks.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/dont-tread-1280.jpg

And by you stating you don't know any blacks who support it(whatever "it" is here) only goes to show that you don't know anything that goes beyond the tip of your nose. As for Obama lighting up the White House, he just opened a huge can of worms. Does this mean that Nativity scenes can start going up on public property? And who gave him the right to do that? Regardless of what that moron may think, that is not his house and he is not free to do with it what he pleases. Once again he proves he's not the president of the United States but of his own interests.

Lanie
06-28-2015, 11:08 PM
The TEA Party never adopted the Confederate battle flag. The TEA Party flag of choice is the Gadsden flag:

https://owlworks.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/dont-tread-1280.jpg

And by you stating you don't know any blacks who support it(whatever "it" is here) only goes to show that you don't know anything that goes beyond the tip of your nose. As for Obama lighting up the White House, he just opened a huge can of worms. Does this mean that Nativity scenes can start going up on public property? And who gave him the right to do that? Regardless of what that moron may think, that is not his house and he is not free to do with it what he pleases. Once again he proves he's not the president of the United States but of his own interests.

Oh. I'm going to have to attend a Tea Party meeting soon just to personally learn more. Reading about it isn't the same as going.

As for the rest, I agree. Once Obama is no longer the president, he can fly whatever flag he wants. He shouldn't fly the rainbow flag right now at the white house. Or excuse me, light it up in a rainbow. I wonder why gays use the rainbow anyway? The rainbow isn't about homosexuality. It's about God's promise not to wipe out the entire world again......using water.

Retread
06-28-2015, 11:32 PM
Oh. I'm going to have to attend a Tea Party meeting soon just to personally learn more. .

It would do you a lot of good to at least hear real tea party groups express their opinions rather than read the garbage the LSM want you to believe. They well may not convert you but you will definitely be better informed.



I wonder why gays use the rainbow anyway? The rainbow isn't about homosexuality. It's about God's promise not to wipe out the entire world again......using water.

That is all about Jesse Jackson wanting to pimp whomever he can to increase his own income and power. He 'formed' the Rainbow Coalition and offered the LBGT groups representation within it's ranks.

ABC
06-28-2015, 11:36 PM
Oh. I'm going to have to attend a Tea Party meeting soon just to personally learn more. Reading about it isn't the same as going.



Here you go Lanie, just click on your state for info ...

http://www.teaparty911.com/info/locations.htm

And just in the off-chance that you didn't know ... the letters T.E.A. actually stand for "Taxed Enough Already"

Happy to help! ~ ABC

Lanie
06-28-2015, 11:58 PM
Here you go Lanie, just click on your state for info ...

http://www.teaparty911.com/info/locations.htm

And just in the off-chance that you didn't know ... the letters T.E.A. actually stand for "Taxed Enough Already"

Happy to help! ~ ABC

Thanks.

txradioguy
06-29-2015, 03:24 AM
Oh God...Bridget at a TEA Party meeting?

That's gonna go over well.

NJCardFan
06-29-2015, 09:01 AM
Speaking of TEA Party activity, has anyone collected on Breitbart's $100K challenge?

Rockntractor
06-29-2015, 09:25 AM
Oh God...Bridget at a TEA Party meeting?

That's gonna go over well.
They may throw her in well.

Retread
06-29-2015, 09:31 AM
Speaking of TEA Party activity, has anyone collected on Breitbart's $100K challenge?

Not yet but Christi used it on Sunday to explode a couple of leftist heads.

Lanie
06-29-2015, 10:14 AM
They may throw her in well.

I'm going to site quietly in the back. I was invited before by one of the local candidates last year.

linda22003
06-29-2015, 11:21 AM
The TEA Party never adopted the " Stars and Bars"..... the "confederate flag".... we adopted the "Gaston Flag".... Don't tread on Me.....





That's the "Gadsden flag" - the "Gaston" flag would be French. ;)

ABC
06-29-2015, 08:45 PM
I'm going to site quietly in the back. I was invited before by one of the local candidates last year.

Lanie ...

As you know the T.E.A. Party is simply a Grass Roots movement, not a political party.

But, tonight from 10:00 to 11:00 pm, if you can catch "Hannity" on Fox News ...

You will get a chance to see and hear Texas Senator Ted Cruz, the candidate we stand behind and support.

Wish I could say exactly what time he will be on as a guest ... but I don't know myself.

Apache
06-29-2015, 09:58 PM
That's the "Gadsden flag" - the "Gaston" flag would be French. ;)

Thx...and I reelieyes thee misteak... butt I saw tired and didknot want to look eet up''''





correct that! :biggrin-new:

Apache
06-29-2015, 10:04 PM
. I wonder why gays use the rainbow anyway? The rainbow isn't about homosexuality. It's about God's promise not to wipe out the entire world again......using water.

Read the Bible Lanie....


The end, first...you ... will see what's going on


The Book of Daniel, also gives a LOT of hints

Rockntractor
06-29-2015, 10:29 PM
That's the "Gadsden flag" - the "Gaston" flag would be French. ;)
You are correct as to the spelling of the Gadsden Flag, there is no such thing as a French Gaston flag. You are thinking of the Gascony flag.
http://i.imgur.com/8w4WP8E.png

txradioguy
06-30-2015, 01:04 AM
Speaking of TEA Party activity, has anyone collected on Breitbart's $100K challenge?
Nope. Not that I'm aware of anyway.

txradioguy
06-30-2015, 01:06 AM
Lanie ...

As you know the T.E.A. Party is simply a Grass Roots movement, not a political party.

But, tonight from 10:00 to 11:00 pm, if you can catch "Hannity" on Fox News ...

You will get a chance to see and hear Texas Senator Ted Cruz, the candidate we stand behind and support.

Wish I could say exactly what time he will be on as a guest ... but I don't know myself.
Doesn't do any good to explain this stuff to her...

Lanie
06-30-2015, 07:59 AM
Read the Bible Lanie....


The end, first...you ... will see what's going on


The Book of Daniel, also gives a LOT of hints

I think some of that stuff has already been going on. There's a reason why people throughout the centuries keep thinking the end of the world is coming.

If it is coming, then that's okay with me. I'm not afraid to go. All I can do is be a witness for Christ until it happens or I die. That's it. There's no need in worrying.

Lanie
06-30-2015, 08:02 AM
Lanie ...

As you know the T.E.A. Party is simply a Grass Roots movement, not a political party.

But, tonight from 10:00 to 11:00 pm, if you can catch "Hannity" on Fox News ...

You will get a chance to see and hear Texas Senator Ted Cruz, the candidate we stand behind and support.

Wish I could say exactly what time he will be on as a guest ... but I don't know myself.

Just to clarify, it's for educational purposes only. I'm pretty sure I'd never join because I don't agree with their overall ideas about economics.

I am aware of Ted Cruz. I like and respect how he stands by his convictions, even when I don't agree with him. But honestly, he said something a while back that really upset me. I don't want to go into what it was or I'll be accused of trolling or just trying to pick arguments.

But I still want to attend some meetings for educational purposes. I don't like being the one not in the know.

txradioguy
06-30-2015, 10:15 AM
Read the Bible Lanie....


The end, first...you ... will see what's going on


The Book of Daniel, also gives a LOT of hints

I would suggest Matthew 24 as well.

That's what our unit Chaplain told me to read after Obama was re-elected.

Lanie
06-30-2015, 10:27 AM
Okay, I will read all those bible passages again and reflect.

You all don't know how hard it is to be a good Christian when you think like a liberal. No, seriously.

ABC
06-30-2015, 08:44 PM
Just to clarify, it's for educationall purposes only.

>snip<

But I still want to attend some meetings for educational purposes. I don't like being the one not in the know.

Lanie ... In no way was I trying to get you sign up and become a member. You said that you were interested in attending a meeting. I simply gave you instant access to find one in your state.

Most important to me ...

Is the fact that you and others stop being so misinformed about the T.E.A. Party and what it really is all about.

The link that I gave you to the page, also contains all the info (straight from the "horse's mouth) that you should need to be correctly informed ... without having to attend an actual meeting.

THE RESISTANCE
06-30-2015, 09:18 PM
I was in Hardees Sunday in line getting a biscuit
and coffee and started talking to another America.
They were moving like molasses on a cold winters
morning. We talked about American and how it has
changed so much in the last thirty years. He started
talking about the Confederate flag, with him saying
it should not be removed. I had not even mentioned
it at all. We talked about other things to like gay
marriage and he was against that to. Finally we got
to order and then wait again. I tapped him on the
shoulder and told him it was good to talk to him.
I hoped to see him later.

Oh I forget to mention he was and still is a black
American.
Oh I live in Spartanburg, S.C.

Retread
06-30-2015, 11:39 PM
I was in Hardees Sunday in line getting a biscuit
and coffee and started talking to another America.
They were moving like molasses on a cold winters
morning. We talked about American and how it has
changed so much in the last thirty years. He started
talking about the Confederate flag, with him saying
it should not be removed. I had not even mentioned
it at all. We talked about other things to like gay
marriage and he was against that to. Finally we got
to order and then wait again. I tapped him on the
shoulder and told him it was good to talk to him.
I hoped to see him later.

Oh I forget to mention he was and still is a black
American.
Oh I live in Spartanburg, S.C.


Which continues to prove there are intelligent folks of every color while DU proves that idiots still abide.

Adam Wood
06-30-2015, 11:49 PM
I was in Hardees Sunday in line getting a biscuit
and coffee and started talking to another America.
They were moving like molasses on a cold winters
morning. We talked about American and how it has
changed so much in the last thirty years. He started
talking about the Confederate flag, with him saying
it should not be removed. I had not even mentioned
it at all. We talked about other things to like gay
marriage and he was against that to. Finally we got
to order and then wait again. I tapped him on the
shoulder and told him it was good to talk to him.
I hoped to see him later.

Oh I forget to mention he was and still is a black
American.
Oh I live in Spartanburg, S.C.I don't think I've ever met an actual Black person in meatspace who gives two shits one way or the other about the Rebel flag.

ralph wiggum
07-01-2015, 01:42 AM
I don't think I've ever met an actual Black person in meatspace who gives two shits one way or the other about the Rebel flag.
"Meatspace"?[emoji1]

Nor have I, Adam.