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SVPete
01-04-2016, 08:48 AM
THE MYTH OF OVER-INCARCERATION (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/12/the-myth-of-over-incarceration.php)
POSTED ON DECEMBER 25, 2015
powerlineblog.com
PAUL MIRENGOFF

Behind the push for leniency is the notion that America — aka “incarceration nation” — has sinned. We are told, based findings by the International Centre for Prison Studies (“the Centre”), that the U. S. has only 5 percent of the world’s population but nearly 25 percent of its prisoners.

We are led to believe that blacks are victims of the criminal justice system in large part because, thanks to the war on drugs, our prisons are overflowing with low-level drug offenders, a disproportionate number of whom are African-American. The left, including our President, the mainstream media, and others who love to cast our country in a bad light mindlessly parrot this theme.

But are these claims rooted in fact? Not according to a paper by Michael Rushford, President & CEO of the Sacramento-based Criminal Justice Legal Foundation (via Crime and Consequences).

The statistical claim that we house nearly 25 percent of world prisoners is bogus, as one would expect from an outfit like the Centre that is funded by George Soros’ Open Society Foundation. In America, we report our prison population honestly and include folks who spend a few days in the country lock-up (data that often is unavailable from other countries, according to Rushford). Does anyone imagine that nations like China (with its 1.3 billion population), North Korea, and Iran report their prison numbers honestly?

As for the composition of U.S. prisoners, Rushford points out that drug offenders are in the minority, and the vast majority of such offenders were convicted of dealing.

87 percent of U.S. prisoners are in state prisons. According to the Department of Justice, 54 percent of state inmates are serving sentences for violent crimes; 19 percent for property crimes; and only 16 percent for drug offenses.
Lots of interesting stuff here, IMO. Once again the America-haters have been found to be spouting an apples-oranges comparison, whether in ignorance or disingenuously (and possibly both).

FlaGator
01-04-2016, 09:00 AM
Very good article. Thank you for it and the information it provides.

NJCardFan
01-04-2016, 01:09 PM
The reason why incarceration is so high in this country can't be pinpointed to a single issue. However, in this correction sergeant's opinion, I can point to one glaring reason why there are so many people incarcerated in this country and to why when they get out, most end up going back. For starters, the lexicon of prison is changing. No longer are these places being called prisons or penitentiaries anymore but rather they're now being called correctional facilities(hence the term prison guard is replaced by corrections officer). This is a term used by such people who believe such behavior is just that, a behavioral issue and not simply bad people doing bad things. However, the by product is that such places are no longer places to be avoided or feared but rather places where one can go on a vacation from reality. Thanks to bleeding heart liberalism, prisons now have all the comforts of the outside with the exception of being able to go from one place to another on one's own accord. Just using my prison as an example, you can:

Go to the gym at least every other day to get your workout in with everything but cardio machines(which I have a feeling aren't that far off).
Go out to the rec yard daily.
Watch TV, even in your cell. Yes, you can purchase a television, a 13" flat screen to be more precise and watch cable TV.
They now have Kindle type tablets where they can email friends and relatives(supposedly these are monitored but I highly doubt they are), purchase and download music and pictures and books.
Can buy goodies from the prison commissary.
Take college courses and receive real college credits.
Near free medical care including gender reassignment treatments.

These are just a few examples of what goes on in our overly oppressive prison system. Why go out and actually work when you can go to jail and be taken care of? They even get paid simply by converting oxygen into carbon dioxide.

Laoshi
01-04-2016, 06:25 PM
The reason why incarceration is so high in this country can't be pinpointed to a single issue. However, in this correction sergeant's opinion, I can point to one glaring reason why there are so many people incarcerated in this country and to why when they get out, most end up going back. For starters, the lexicon of prison is changing. No longer are these places being called prisons or penitentiaries anymore but rather they're now being called correctional facilities(hence the term prison guard is replaced by corrections officer). This is a term used by such people who believe such behavior is just that, a behavioral issue and not simply bad people doing bad things. However, the by product is that such places are no longer places to be avoided or feared but rather places where one can go on a vacation from reality. Thanks to bleeding heart liberalism, prisons now have all the comforts of the outside with the exception of being able to go from one place to another on one's own accord. Just using my prison as an example, you can:

Go to the gym at least every other day to get your workout in with everything but cardio machines(which I have a feeling aren't that far off).
Go out to the rec yard daily.
Watch TV, even in your cell. Yes, you can purchase a television, a 13" flat screen to be more precise and watch cable TV.
They now have Kindle type tablets where they can email friends and relatives(supposedly these are monitored but I highly doubt they are), purchase and download music and pictures and books.
Can buy goodies from the prison commissary.
Take college courses and receive real college credits.
Near free medical care including gender reassignment treatments.

These are just a few examples of what goes on in our overly oppressive prison system. Why go out and actually work when you can go to jail and be taken care of? They even get paid simply by converting oxygen into carbon dioxide.

You’re on the right track for recidivism rates Sgt, we’ll get this sorted out between us when I get the time. UK, Leicester SCSPO (MA Criminology).

NJCardFan
01-04-2016, 06:55 PM
You’re on the right track for recidivism rates Sgt, we’ll get this sorted out between us when I get the time. UK, Leicester SCSPO (MA Criminology).

Let me give you an example: One of the biggest cry baby inmates that ever made his way into my old area(and hopefully again) was paroled. He decided that health care was too costly so he violated his parole so he can go back to prison. He wouldn't have done this if prison were an actual place to be avoided.

Laoshi
01-05-2016, 08:25 AM
Let me give you an example: One of the biggest cry baby inmates that ever made his way into my old area(and hopefully again) was paroled. He decided that health care was too costly so he violated his parole so he can go back to prison. He wouldn't have done this if prison were an actual place to be avoided.

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?71004-Crime-and-punishment-as-a-social-responsibility&p=672470#post672470

oldcoastie1
01-05-2016, 04:07 PM
Prisons are training grounds for inmates.

NJCardFan
01-05-2016, 09:20 PM
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?71004-Crime-and-punishment-as-a-social-responsibility&p=672470#post672470

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e5/d9/29/e5d9296af4250daa3b8b678725fddd79.png

They eat better than we cops do.

Laoshi
01-05-2016, 10:34 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e5/d9/29/e5d9296af4250daa3b8b678725fddd79.png

They eat better than we cops do.

Welcome to socialism. :smile-new: We the downtrodden working class pay for it.

Adam Wood
01-09-2016, 11:28 AM
Looks like the best place to be in Liverpool is the prison. I mean, being in Liverpool is punishment enough, but the prison looks like a refuge.

NJCardFan
01-09-2016, 03:39 PM
Looks like the best place to be in Liverpool is the prison. I mean, being in Liverpool is punishment enough, but the prison looks like a refuge.

The Beatles growing up didn't live as well as inmates do.