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cat714
10-30-2008, 04:54 AM
I am completely floored. A CBS reporter is doing his job. This came out after the infomercial. Hmmm...makes you wonder what is happening and why?

Here it is folks:


Reality Check: The Cost Of Obama's Pledges (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/eveningnews/realitycheck/main4557520.shtml)



Without question, the Barack Obama infomercial served as a very slick and powerful recitation of the biggest promises he's made as a presidential candidate. But the very bigness of his ideas is the problem: he seems blind to the concept his numbers don't add up.

Let's start with his highly suspect, and widely discredited, claim that he can find federal "spending cuts beyond the costs" of his promises. Very few independent economists believe he has identified the savings needed to offset his remarkable list of tax credits, tax cuts and spending pledges.

Fact: Even if you believe Obama intends to fix health care, most independent analysts say the cost is massive - $1.2 trillion over ten years, according to the highly respected Lewin Group. When the new Congress wakes up next year to a $1 trillion deficit, and answers the overwhelming new demands for another stimulus package, will the leadership really bite on a health care reform package that digs the deficit hole so much deeper?

And that's just the beginning of what Obama would spend.

Fact: The tax cuts he promises, which are mostly refundable tax credits (code for cash back), will cost $60 billion just in year one, according the National Taxpayers Union, though the Obama campaign's own estimates in July put that figure at $130 billion.

Fact: His new promise to give businesses a $3,000 tax credit for each new job created will cost $40 billion. But economists say this credit is far more likely to benefit companies already planning to expand and will likely not be enough to help companies create new jobs or forestall layoffs.

Fact: Obama's claim he will lower health care premiums by $2,500 is: 1.) guesswork, which is 2.) based on health care savings that might, in a perfect world, happen over 10 years - a fact Obama neatly glosses over.

Fact: Obama, when referring to savings he can make by leaving Iraq ($90 billion, according to Congressional Budget Office estimates), has spent these savings several times over, across several different promises depending on the crowd he's addressing.

Most of the time he spends the Iraq savings in the context of the roads he wants to build; sometimes it's for the teachers he wants to hire. Tonight, he riffed rhetorically on the savings, asking how many scholarships could be funded, or how many schools could be built. In the end though, presuming he really saves $90 billion, he can only spend it once.

Remember he also mentioned rebuilding the military ($7 billion/yr); his education initiative ($18 billion/yr); and his energy initiative ($15 billion/yr). He did not mention the $188 billion that he would spend on the brand new stimulus package he has proposed.

If he closes every loophole as promised, saves every dime from Iraq, raises taxes on the rich and trims the federal budget as he's promised to do "line by line," he still doesn't pay for his list. If he's elected, the first fact hitting his desk will be the figure projecting how much less of a budget he has to work with - thanks to the recession. He gave us a very compelling vision with his ad buy tonight. What he did not give us was any hint of the cold reality he's facing or a sense of how he might prioritize his promises if voters trust him with the White House.

cat714
10-30-2008, 05:12 AM
Is this the October surprise??? So Far the AP, CBS and ABC's Nightline has thrown Obama underneathe the bus tonight. Is it because it's looking like McCain is going to win and the MSM is trying to restore what little creditability it has?? Have the American people finally seen that Obama is really a socialist? Is that LA Times tape going to come and it's going to be damaging?? I'm shocked to see the MSM doing their job...it will force the rest of the clowns to do the same.

I can sum up Obama with four words, "Big hat, no cattle."

Sonnabend
10-30-2008, 06:03 AM
Merged for your viewing pleasure :D

Perilloux
10-30-2008, 06:37 AM
I of course didn't tune in to watch the Obamessiah. Have to admit I'm surprised ANY of the media is calling him out, least of all CBS. We'll see how long it lasts, bet they're back worshipping at the Obamalter by noon today.

biccat
10-30-2008, 07:27 AM
I'm surprised that CBS is pointing this out.

I'll admit, I did turn over to the Obamathon for about 10 seconds yesterday, just to get an idea of what kind of production value it had. Some Democrat senator was talking about how Obama cleaned out the Senate of lobbyists and eliminated "private jets." And he "reached across the aisle" to work with Republicans.

Unfortunately, that was way too much BS for me to handle, so I flipped it back to ABC.

Linda50AZ
10-30-2008, 07:30 AM
If his lips are moving he is lying.

megimoo
10-30-2008, 07:31 AM
I'm surprised that CBS is pointing this out.

I'll admit, I did turn over to the Obamathon for about 10 seconds yesterday, just to get an idea of what kind of production value it had. Some Democrat senator was talking about how Obama cleaned out the Senate of lobbyists and eliminated "private jets." And he "reached across the aisle" to work with Republicans.

Unfortunately, that was way too much BS for me to handle, so I flipped it back to ABC.
Don't hold your breath over it.They are just covering their asses in case he loses.They will reap their just rewards over their treason !

Odysseus
10-30-2008, 08:40 AM
I'm surprised that CBS is pointing this out.

I'll admit, I did turn over to the Obamathon for about 10 seconds yesterday, just to get an idea of what kind of production value it had. Some Democrat senator was talking about how Obama cleaned out the Senate of lobbyists and eliminated "private jets." And he "reached across the aisle" to work with Republicans.

Unfortunately, that was way too much BS for me to handle, so I flipped it back to ABC.
Drove the money changers from the temple, did he? :D

I didn't catch it (We're on the last legs of getting a BCT out the door and I don't have time to be lied to), but if the media is critical of his promises it's because they're either so outlandish that even the guys on the kool aid IV drip can't take it with a straight face or, more likely, the ratings tanked and the networks are pissed that they let this clown eat up a half hour of primetime.

rjas77
10-30-2008, 10:32 AM
I don't think so..

They know Obama has a big enough enough lead in the polls and they know the public thinks they're in the tank for Obama so they're just beeing a little critical to appear more fair

crockspot
10-30-2008, 10:46 AM
Dan Rather just a couple weeks ago even pointed out that the media is being one-sided in its treatment of Palin. Somebody must be watering down their KoolAid.

Odysseus
10-30-2008, 10:59 AM
I don't think so..

They know Obama has a big enough enough lead in the polls and they know the public thinks they're in the tank for Obama so they're just beeing a little critical to appear more fair
Except that Obama's lead has been slipping in the polls. Of course, with the level of voter fraud out there, that may not be an issue, since nobody polls fictional characters or dead people on their voting preferences.

Dan Rather just a couple weeks ago even pointed out that the media is being one-sided in its treatment of Palin. Somebody must be watering down their KoolAid.
It's just become too blatant to ignore. That won't stop Dan from piling on the minute that he gets the chance, but it's become so obvious that even old "fake, but accurate" can't ignore it.

Space Gravy
10-30-2008, 11:10 AM
Probably just a bitter Hillary supporter.

LogansPapa
10-30-2008, 11:12 AM
In-as-much as the only truly accurate news comes from FOX and Limbaugh, are the majority of American voters actually stupid enough to use other sources for their information, like NPR and the other old school network entities? Seems like all the folks backing McCain/Palin would be able to influence non-believers, no?

:confused:

cat714
10-30-2008, 02:50 PM
Obama's ratings for his BSmercial are coming in. I'm seeing numbers between 20-24% of households that watched it and that doesn't seem like much considering all the other ratings. I read one article that said only 14 million views watched it in Portland versus 38 million in Baltimore. Nobody knows how many undecideds/independents saw it. Most of the comments I've read that give it praise are his supporters and of course those who thought it was BS weren't going to vote for him anyways.

I didn't watch it because I don't care what he has to say. IMO, Obama is a liar and a phony.

Hawkgirl
10-30-2008, 04:52 PM
Rats fleeing a sinking ship....the media will turn on you faster than a rabbid dog if you're a "loser".