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nightflight
06-14-2008, 09:33 PM
A one-legged Royal Navy veteran was arrested after he rescued his neighbour from being harassed by two men.

Stephen Beerling, 52, dialled 999 and raced to help the women and her baby after hearing screams during the night.

But he was arrested when officers spotted a retractable truncheon he had picked up in case he had to protect himself.

Mr Beerling, a Liberal Democrat councillor, was arrested, locked up for 12 hours and charged with possessing an offensive weapon.

He told of his ordeal yesterday after learning the Crown Prosecution Service had decided to drop the charge against him.

Mr Beerling, of Maidstone, Kent, said: ' I am relieved, but very disappointed it even came to this. I don't blame the police but maybe they should have used their noggin. Perhaps they were a little inexperienced. The blame lies with the CPS - I just cannot understand why they wanted to press charges.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1026255/One-legged-war-veteran-saves-mother-baby-thugs---arrested-carrying-truncheon.html??10

A one-legged Royal Navy veteran was arrested after he rescued his neighbour from being harassed by two men.

Goldwater
06-14-2008, 10:51 PM
Laws involving defense of property and people are quite stupid in the UK.

Odysseus
06-15-2008, 09:27 PM
Laws involving defense of property and people are quite stupid in the UK.

Laws that prohibit the defense of property and people empower those who seek to steal and murder. If this guy hadn't been a member of the local council, he'd have probably gone to prison for possessing a weapon, while the thugs who were manacing the woman and child would have gotten off with a slap on the wrist.

Vepr
06-16-2008, 08:39 AM
How much more backwards can the laws get over there?

dixierat
06-16-2008, 09:07 AM
Laws that prohibit the defense of property and people empower those who seek to steal and murder. If this guy hadn't been a member of the local council, he'd have probably gone to prison for possessing a weapon, while the thugs who were manacing the woman and child would have gotten off with a slap on the wrist.

One case I read about over there, a guy used a 22 rifle to defend his property from a repeat burglar, was arrested,convicted, and sent to prison. THEN the perp sued him for damages and won. Nucking futs, IMO.

:cool:

Eyelids
06-16-2008, 12:29 PM
Somebody want to compile crime statistics in the UK compared to the US? I'm not saying these laws are good, but I would hardly say criminals are encouraged.

Gingersnap
06-16-2008, 12:58 PM
Somebody want to compile crime statistics in the UK compared to the US? I'm not saying these laws are good, but I would hardly say criminals are encouraged.

It would be difficult to do since the Brits don't count crimes and convictions in the same way we do. What is true is that we have more murders among minorities over drugs and ethnicity but we have fewer rapes, home invasions, and life-threatening beatings.

Eyelids
06-16-2008, 01:25 PM
It would be difficult to do since the Brits don't count crimes and convictions in the same way we do. What is true is that we have more murders among minorities over drugs and ethnicity but we have fewer rapes, home invasions, and life-threatening beatings.
You guys have to learn to quote statistics when you talk directly out of your ass.

nightflight
06-16-2008, 06:39 PM
You guys have to learn to quote statistics when you talk directly out of your ass.

I guess you're not worth the trouble.

Eyelids
06-17-2008, 02:10 AM
I still dont have any statistics....

AmPat
06-17-2008, 05:35 AM
I still dont have any Brain....

Do you have a search engine? Why don't you get off your lazy ass and find the desired data yourself? Perhaps you are afraid you won't like the results?

justsayin
06-17-2008, 05:36 AM
I still dont have any statistics....

How about this?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capita

I am certainly not arguing that the US doesn't have work to do on the crime front, but the UK is worse off on a per capita basis.

Sonnabend
06-17-2008, 08:34 AM
Edit: find em yourself, jackass

SaintLouieWoman
06-17-2008, 08:36 AM
I still dont have any statistics....
Where are your statistics? Are we supposed to be your little servants, looking stuff up for you? I'm sure you're perfectly capable of finding them for yourself.

ReaganForRus
06-17-2008, 08:45 AM
How about this?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capita

I am certainly not arguing that the US doesn't have work to do on the crime front, but th UK is worse off on a per capita basis.

I guess Eyelids didn't like the statistics presented too him............how typical!

FuroraCeltica
06-17-2008, 10:23 AM
Laws that prohibit the defense of property and people empower those who seek to steal and murder. If this guy hadn't been a member of the local council, he'd have probably gone to prison for possessing a weapon, while the thugs who were manacing the woman and child would have gotten off with a slap on the wrist.

Britain is a nightmare for anyone wishing to protect themselves and/or their property. Hence why so many Brits are emigrating.

AlmostThere
06-17-2008, 12:08 PM
I'm on my first visit to Amsterdam this week. I've seen signs boasting that Amsterdam is the freest city in the world. Drugs, prostitution, you name the vice, you can do it here. But twice in the last 2 days I've seen the police pull over drivers who's apparent crime was talking on the phone while driving. :eek:

Zathras
06-17-2008, 08:27 PM
You guys have to learn to quote statistics when you talk directly out of your ass.

Heh heh, we're still waiting for you to STOP talking out of your ass liar.

Odysseus
06-25-2008, 12:09 AM
I'm on my first visit to Amsterdam this week. I've seen signs boasting that Amsterdam is the freest city in the world. Drugs, prostitution, you name the vice, you can do it here. But twice in the last 2 days I've seen the police pull over drivers who's apparent crime was talking on the phone while driving. :eek:

Well, what do you expect? A distracted driver might not stop in time to avoid a drug addict or a streetwalker. :D

FuroraCeltica
06-25-2008, 03:11 AM
Well, what do you expect? A distracted driver might not stop in time to avoid a drug addict or a streetwalker. :D

lol, yes we couldn't have that :D

MrsSmith
06-25-2008, 07:12 PM
Just in case 'lids actually replies...


Britain tops European crime league
By Philip Johnston, Home Affairs Editor
Last Updated: 4:02AM BST 19/04/2008 | Comments 34 | Have Your Say
Britain has one of the worst crime rates in Europe, a report said yesterday.

It is the most burgled country in Europe, has the highest level of assaults and above average rates of car theft, robbery and pickpocketing. Only Ireland has a worse record.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1541699/Britain-tops-European-crime-league.html


Gun Control's Twisted Outcome
Restricting firearms has helped make England more crime-ridden than the U.S.

On a June evening two years ago, Dan Rather made many stiff British upper lips quiver by reporting that England had a crime problem and that, apart from murder, "theirs is worse than ours." >>>

Nearly five centuries of growing civility ended in 1954. Violent crime has been climbing ever since. Last December, London's Evening Standard reported that armed crime, with banned handguns the weapon of choice, was "rocketing." In the two years following the 1997 handgun ban, the use of handguns in crime rose by 40 percent, and the upward trend has continued. From April to November 2001, the number of people robbed at gunpoint in London rose 53 percent.

Gun crime is just part of an increasingly lawless environment. From 1991 to 1995, crimes against the person in England's inner cities increased 91 percent. And in the four years from 1997 to 2001, the rate of violent crime more than doubled. Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York. England's rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than America's, and 53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S., where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police. In a United Nations study of crime in 18 developed nations published in July, England and Wales led the Western world's crime league, with nearly 55 crimes per 100 people.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/28582.html


Poor 'lids...never, ever right on anything. :(

:D