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megimoo
06-15-2008, 09:18 AM
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Warning: The next generation might just be the biggest pile of idiots in U.S. history By Mark Morford

"Mark Morford is a kneejerk idiot liberal of the worst kind.If he would write this he must be worried !"

I have this ongoing discussion with a longtime reader who also just so happens to be a longtime Oakland high school teacher, a wonderful guy who's seen generations of teens come and generations go and who has a delightful poetic sensibility and quirky outlook on his life and his family and his beloved teaching career.

And he often writes to me in response to something I might've written about the youth of today, anything where I comment on the various nefarious factors shaping their minds and their perspectives and whether or not, say, EMFs and junk food and cell phones are melting their brains and what can be done and just how bad it might all be.

His response: It is not bad at all. It's absolutely horrifying.

My friend often summarizes for me what he sees, firsthand, every day and every month, year in and year out, in his classroom. He speaks not merely of the sad decline in overall intellectual acumen among students over the years, not merely of the astonishing spread of lazy slackerhood, or the fact that cell phones and iPods and excess TV exposure are, absolutely and without reservation, short-circuiting the minds of the upcoming generations. Of this, he says, there is zero doubt.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/10/24/notes102407.DTL&type=printable

biccat
06-15-2008, 09:27 AM
"and if you think the hordes of easily terrified, mindless fundamentalist evangelical Christian lemmings have been bad for the soul of this country, just wait."
...asshole. Christians built this country and made it great. Asshole liberals like this guy are what destroyed our public education system.

I'm sure his solution will be to throw more money at the problem. :rolleyes:

wilbur
06-15-2008, 11:18 AM
"and if you think the hordes of easily terrified, mindless fundamentalist evangelical Christian lemmings have been bad for the soul of this country, just wait."
...asshole. Christians built this country and made it great. Asshole liberals like this guy are what destroyed our public education system.

I'm sure his solution will be to throw more money at the problem. :rolleyes:

Its funny... there's hardly a larger group, besides thugs and gangbangers, who seem to have more animosity and contempt for higher education than a right wing evangelical. Those institutions are to be feared and derided as nothing more than 'indoctrination camps', filled with 'ivory tower' elites who want to warp the minds of their children.

Zathras
06-15-2008, 02:59 PM
Its funny... there's hardly a larger group, besides thugs and gangbangers, who seem to have more animosity and contempt for higher education than a right wing evangelical. Those institutions are to be feared and derided as nothing more than 'indoctrination camps', filled with 'ivory tower' elites who want to warp the minds of their children.

And here at CU we have the perfect example of a product of higher education today...the gutless, cowardly, lying waste of skin Eyelids.

FeebMaster
06-15-2008, 03:07 PM
This is what happens when you put the government in charge of education.

You think it's bad now? Wait until this generation finishes school and become teachers.


Fortunately we have Britain to to show us how to pave the way to a bright new future:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1024031/Drop-middle-class-academic-subjects-says-schools-adviser.html

MrsSmith
06-16-2008, 01:03 AM
Its funny... there's hardly a larger group, besides thugs and gangbangers, who seem to have more animosity and contempt for higher education than a right wing evangelical. Those institutions are to be feared and derided as nothing more than 'indoctrination camps', filled with 'ivory tower' elites who want to warp the minds of their children.


It's not funny how much reason Christians have to worry about sending kids to college. With only a few exceptions, most colleges are set up with the purpose of removing from every student any conservative or Christian inclination they may possess. If you doubt this, Mike Adams has written extensively on that subject...and has been denied tenure due to his conservative Christian beliefs.

Mr Smith, who also teaches at a college, has met this prejudice time after time. He has even been accused of "brainwashing" his kids by taking them to church.

Even my not-so-conservative, non-Christian daughter was amazed at the leftist garbage she was fed in college...and she was actually attending a private supposedly-Christian college. If you think DU is bad, I think most college professors ARE DUmpMonkeys.

It isn't the education that is a problem, it's the lack thereof.

AmPat
06-16-2008, 05:43 AM
Its funny... there's hardly a larger group, besides thugs and gangbangers, who seem to have more animosity and contempt for higher education than a right wing evangelical. Those institutions are to be feared and derided as nothing more than 'indoctrination camps', filled with 'ivory tower' elites who want to warp the minds of their children.

Wilber you only have to ask Mr. Ed and he too will tell you that Christians are all for higher education. Just not at the expense of common sense and their personal beliefs.

The "contempt" is not directed toward higher educaton but at the ridculous "educators" that spew their venom at the Christian kids who pay their inflated salary.:cool:

enslaved1
06-16-2008, 09:27 AM
This is what happens when you put the government in charge of education.

You think it's bad now? Wait until this generation finishes school and become teachers.


Fortunately we have Britain to to show us how to pave the way to a bright new future:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1024031/Drop-middle-class-academic-subjects-says-schools-adviser.html

Point one: Orwell was definitely a prophet when he set 1984 in England. The only thing he may have missed is the islamofacists taking over first.
Point two: Almost every time I go out in the world and see kids, little and not so little, and how they interact with the world, I get scared to death that these are the future doctors, lawyers, politicians, police people, nurses, caretakers ect. When they show no empathy,sympathy, or concern for anything outside of their own wants, and their parents let them do all this, I can only imagine what they will be like as adults.

Lager
06-16-2008, 09:46 AM
Sadly, it's not just the schools contributing to the problem. My wife and I were taking a walk through a park during the weekend, and almost every kid we saw over the age of six was talking on a cell phone. Here it was a fine summer day, blue sky, warm temps, and that's all they could think to do. I am so glad those things were not around when we were younger. Imagine what their brains are missing.

LogansPapa
06-16-2008, 12:38 PM
Christian education is just fine - as long as you donít go digging anything up.;)

The Night Owl
06-16-2008, 01:31 PM
It's not funny how much reason Christians have to worry about sending kids to college. With only a few exceptions, most colleges are set up with the purpose of removing from every student any conservative or Christian inclination they may possess. If you doubt this, Mike Adams has written extensively on that subject...and has been denied tenure due to his conservative Christian beliefs.

Beliefs cannot be taken away from people. Students who change their beliefs during college do so of their own volition.

Constitutionally Speaking
06-16-2008, 02:20 PM
Beliefs cannot be taken away from people. Students who change their beliefs during college do so of their own volition.

After being fed so much false information from people they are supposed to regard as authorities on things, it is hardly "of their own volition" it is simply a form of brainwashing.

wilbur
06-16-2008, 02:33 PM
After being fed so much false information from people they are supposed to regard as authorities on things, it is hardly "of their own volition" it is simply a form of brainwashing.

I know that there are exceptions, and I'm sure there are plenty of examples of teachers out there crossing the line with their personal beliefs, I have to say the paranoia is just ridiculously overblown. This 'academia is out to get me' attitude is just as silly as the creationists and ID'ists who say evolution is an atheist conspiracy. The religious right can be almost as bad as the Truthers sometimes when it comes to this crap. The religious right creeping ever closer to engaging in a full out war on education. Not that all is perfect with education, but among our educational institutions in this country, post high school education does the best job far and away.

I certainly never really experienced any sort of indoctrination in college, nor encountered professors who espoused personal beliefs as fact in the subjects they taught. Besides... if a full 18 or so years of the exclusive opportunity to teach one's kid proper values and beliefs can be undone by a college professor, that really doesn't say much for one's beliefs.

Aklover
06-16-2008, 03:06 PM
This is what happens when you put the government in charge of education.

You think it's bad now? Wait until this generation finishes school and become teachers.


Fortunately we have Britain to to show us how to pave the way to a bright new future:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1024031/Drop-middle-class-academic-subjects-says-schools-adviser.html



The lunatic is dead on in his assessment. Sad really. Throw in the widescale use of anti-depressents and it looks even worse.

linda22003
06-16-2008, 03:27 PM
if a full 18 or so years of the exclusive opportunity to teach one's kid proper values and beliefs can be undone by a college professor, that really doesn't say much for one's beliefs.

It may be an indication that critical thinking is entering the student's brain for the first time.

Aklover
06-16-2008, 03:58 PM
It may be an indication that critical thinking is entering the student's brain for the first time.



True as well.

noonwitch
06-17-2008, 09:10 AM
I certainly never really experienced any sort of indoctrination in college, nor encountered professors who espoused personal beliefs as fact in the subjects they taught. Besides... if a full 18 or so years of the exclusive opportunity to teach one's kid proper values and beliefs can be undone by a college professor, that really doesn't say much for one's beliefs.[/QUOTE]



I went to a public university, and I have to say that I had plenty of professors who espoused their own political views, but they were a group of people with fairly diverse views. In the social work and sociology departments, I had mostly liberal professors. I had a conservative econ prof who I really liked, and some excellent conservative history profs who taught a very different perspective on the Vietnam War than sociogist profs did.

I did have the requisit radical feminist literature teacher, but I liked her. She allowed all to express their views, but I did personally love her theory comparing The Odessey to Star Trek.

Penguins Fan
06-17-2008, 05:23 PM
Pop culture has succeeded in turning America's youth into idiots. I see it in the behavior of certain coworkers, all 20-something females. They talk endlessly about television shows, celebrity magazines, songs they have downloaded from the net, and other absolutely insipid things.

There is some good on TV, but most of it is a wasteland. Public education, in my humble opinion, sucks. State universities are overpriced, bureaucratic monstrosities that do manage to turn out some educated people but also often put the finishing touches on the New American Idiot.

MrsSmith
06-17-2008, 10:29 PM
I know that there are exceptions, and I'm sure there are plenty of examples of teachers out there crossing the line with their personal beliefs, I have to say the paranoia is just ridiculously overblown. This 'academia is out to get me' attitude is just as silly as the creationists and ID'ists who say evolution is an atheist conspiracy. The religious right can be almost as bad as the Truthers sometimes when it comes to this crap. The religious right creeping ever closer to engaging in a full out war on education. Not that all is perfect with education, but among our educational institutions in this country, post high school education does the best job far and away.

I certainly never really experienced any sort of indoctrination in college, nor encountered professors who espoused personal beliefs as fact in the subjects they taught. Besides... if a full 18 or so years of the exclusive opportunity to teach one's kid proper values and beliefs can be undone by a college professor, that really doesn't say much for one's beliefs.

Mr Smith teaches in a college. He runs in to it constantly, even as a teacher. He also has students come to him and ask about other teachers..."Is it legal for XXX to say something like this? Can I be graded down it I disagree? Is it legal for XXX to take points off my papers for this??" If you didn't run into it, it's likely because you're already so brainwashed that you don't know the difference.

With my oldest daughter, the leftist crap was not only verbal, the teacher printed it. She sent me several of them, the most memorable being that "the Bush Administration is intending to draft all young people with no deferments, including those in college and those with children." She was quite happy to hear that this was BS...but more than a little angry to find out it was actually written by Democrats.

lacarnut
06-17-2008, 10:35 PM
And here at CU we have the perfect example of a product of higher education today...the gutless, cowardly, lying waste of skin Eyelids.

Eyelids is a perfect example of someone that is as dumb as a sack of door-knobs.

Elspeth
06-17-2008, 10:54 PM
Sadly, it's not just the schools contributing to the problem. My wife and I were taking a walk through a park during the weekend, and almost every kid we saw over the age of six was talking on a cell phone. Here it was a fine summer day, blue sky, warm temps, and that's all they could think to do. I am so glad those things were not around when we were younger. Imagine what their brains are missing.

This is exactly right. Technology provides so much distraction that the ability to really slow down and think is compromised.