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megimoo
11-14-2008, 10:25 AM
America Changed For Bad Because of The Viet Nam War :
http://www.metafilter.com/74186/Political-Ephemera-from-the-Vietnam-War-Era

Who was the president that got us involved in the Vietnam War?John F. Kennedy (D) continued by Linden B. Johnson (D) ended by Richard M NIxon (R)

"Ah Yes and the Start of the 'Dirty Rotton, Unwashed and Smelly ,Flower Children,Desecrate Soldiers Caskets,Big Fat Moma Cass Mu Mu ,Never Change Their Skivvies, Hippie "Movement !" '

President Jack Kennedy wouldn't 'spit' on todays Democrats especially his brother, Ted .

"Before Kennedys presidency and the Viet Nam war Americans were very patriotic and the Democratic party was loyal to the Constitution and America !After the war America was devided and is still to this day .The radical element went as far from former American values as it could even to the extreme of siding with our enemys.

They are now enguaged in an attempt to destroy this great country !

Political Ephemera from the Vietnam War Era

The University of Washington has put a collection of Vietnam War era printed ephemera (posters, flyers, pamphlets, magazines, mostly cheap mimeographs or photocopies) online. The browsable collection ranges from Defend the Black Panthers to How to Make a Revolution in the U.S. to the Planetary Citizen Human Manifesto to plain old Do Something. The collection offers a fascinating insight into the passion, energy and graphic sensibilities of grassroots, home-front politics in late 1960s and early 1970s Seattle.

There are over 200 items, many with multiple pages (scroll bar in upper left frame). Some which caught my eye were:
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Gay Love is Here to Stay
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International Women's Day Teach-In
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Striking Covers of the Helix Magazine ("Seattle's Hip Rag"), e.g., 1, 2, 3, 4.
Black American IQ Test for Honkies
Our Fight is Here: Essays on Draft Resistance.
NW Call - Democratic Socialism: see the dove text-art on page 2.
Job Ad for War Criminals
Stop the War (Nixon as Bomb Payload)
Housewives for Peace
No More ROTC
MANIFESTO - MAN (Making a Nation)
January 1st, 1974: All Automobiles Will Be Destroyed
Birthday Benefit for Huey
SDS - Bring the War Home (see page 2, eery echoes of Iraq)
The John Birch Society (a know thine enemy event)
The Palestine Revolution and Its Problems
People Can Stop IT&T
Rehearse for the Apocalypse
Seattle Gay Liberation Front Newsletter, Dec. 1970.
Taste the Sweetness of Destiny, Racist Pig
We Are All the Conspiracy
Who's for the White Working Man? (American Nazi Party Recruitment)
Plant Grass Everywhere
Attention Campus Women: What did you learn in school today?
posted by Rumple (18 comments total) 27 users marked this as a favorite

megimoo
11-14-2008, 10:28 AM
America Changed For Bad Because of The Viet Nam War :

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This is great — I'm having fun poking through it and seeing what comes up.

The more that archival materials can become available without having to go and register and sit in a basement of a library, the better.
posted by Forktine at 4:54 PM on August 16

I'd bet that not a single one of the originals was printed on recycled paper with soy inks. Nothing bilingual, either.

Monolingual planet-raping fascists.
posted by codswallop at 4:58 PM on August 16 [1 favorite]

Helix, Vol 1, no. 4 (May 16, 1967) Ad for the 'electrical banana company' - "take the worry out of getting high" "The superior blend of fine bananas specially selected and processed for your greater smoking satisfaction" $5 per 1/2 Oz.
posted by acro at 4:58 PM on August 16


Stuff like this is what the Principia Discordia and Illuminatus trilogy were spoofing.
posted by empath at 5:20 PM on August 16

The military was even infected by this kind of loopiness by the late 70s

The First Earth Battalion.
posted by empath at 5:22 PM on August 16 [1 favorite]

From the "Black IQ Test for Honkies", one of the questions is "In C.C. Rider, what does C.C. stand for?" I'm pretty sure it doesn't stand for anything, as the name of the song is "See See Rider", as in "see see rider, see what you done done". The 1920s Ma Rainey version was "See See Rider Blues" and all my Leadbelly CDs list it as "See See Rider".

"The superior blend of fine bananas specially selected and processed for your greater smoking satisfaction"

Heh, I had no idea that legend was that old. I thought it originated in the 70s at the earliest.
posted by DecemberBoy at 5:28 PM on August 16

The First Earth Battalion features prominently in The Men Who Stare at Goats, which is a fun read.
posted by lukemeister at 5:44 PM on August 16 [1 favorite]

another vote for "The Men Who Stare At Goats"; it's also covered in Ronson's "Crazy Rulers of the World" 3-episode TV series.
posted by mrbill at 6:20 PM on August 16

Hey, they're using CONTENTdm. Nice to see someone actually successfully using that format, not least because of the amount of metadata generated by it. It's perhaps not surprising to see UWash using it, since there's a library school attached to the university. I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that some of the work on this project was done by library students (skills at a discount, after all).

Digitization projects are expensive, and one or way another someone has to pay for it. Libraries have some awesome and awe-inspiring items in their special collections, and no money to digitize. It's not a new story, but if you want to see more of these projects online you might want to look into directed giving or inquiring whether the library has policies on accepting corporate/non-profit sponsorships for projects like these.
posted by librarylis at 6:53 PM on August 16

Awesome post Pumple. Rich with links. Whoa man, heavy stuff. ;-)

I remember those old mimeographs so well, their smell, the purplish ink. Vivid memories of marches, demonstrations, protest rallies, moratoriums. And rock concerts. So amazing to see some of the flyers from then, like Boycott Grapes, Lettuce, and Gallo Wine, Cesar Chavez Jailed! Dow Chemical Guilty, Eye Witness Report from Kent State.

It's great to see some of the font and visual aesthetics that were hip at that time.

My heart swells with pride to have come from an activist and outspoken generation. It seems to me that from the late 70's on students lost interest in being active in making political changes. GW seems to have fixed that, LOL

1965: Harvey Matusow invented the myth that smoking banana peels would get you high (as an ill conceived plot to extract geopolitical revenge on the United Fruit Company, aka Chiquita Banana).

'Will bananas get you high? Of course not. The whole thing was a hoax first publicized in the Berkeley Barb in March 1967. The wire services, and after them the whole country, fell for it hook, line, and roach clip. "Smokeouts" were held at Berkeley. The following Easter Sunday, the New York Times reported, "beatniks and students chanted 'banana-banana' at a 'be-in' in Central Park" and paraded around carrying a two-foot wooden banana. The Food and Drug Administration announced it was investigating "the possible hallucinogenic effects of banana peels."
posted by nickyskye at 6:55 PM on August 16



It seems to me that from the late 70's on students lost interest in being active in making political changes.

I have an aunt who was heavily involved along with her partner in all manner of Aquarian Age activism. When I was just out of university in the mid-90s, I lived with them in Toronto for a couple of months. Ontario was at the tail end of a ferocious recession, and I was unemployed for six weeks despite blanketing the city with resumes and answering even the most ridiculous classifieds (I even trained as a door-to-door home alarm salesman but didn't have the stomach for it). I landed a job at Starbucks for 15 cents above minimum wage and was even grateful for it.

So one night my aunt and her partner have old friends over for dinner, an old radical couple, and they get to talking about their activist days and one of 'em says exactly this - what's with you kids today?

So I asked them a few questions. When you all were fighting the good fight, for example, could you get a job at a moment's notice if you needed one? One that paid a decent wage, even allowed you to save up the money to buy a crash pad? (My aunt and her partner live in the old crash pad they bought.) If you wanted to live cheap and simple for months on end, were affordable accomdations readily available? Were you saddled with five figures of student debt? If you wanted to go back to the land, could land be had for a song?

I don't know if that completely convinced them, but it sure gave them some perspective on what was with us kids these days.

I mean no disrespect, nickyskye - this is a dear, dear aunt of mine, and you're one of my favourite Mefites - but there were certain economic conditions in the '60s, at the peak of the biggest economic boom in modern history, that made it if not possible at least less problematic to devote oneself to political causes.

Also, killer post. Thanks, Rumple. Anyone know if there's a particularly good archive of the underground press out there somewhere on the internet? I mean like full text of Ramparts, that sort of thing? It's of quasi-professional interest, but I've never done any serious looking . . .
posted by gompa at 7:27 PM on August 16 [2 favorites]



Great post, and it takes me back.

*flashes nickyskye the peace sign*
posted by languagehat at 7:58 PM on August 16


megimoo
11-14-2008, 10:31 AM
CITY OF FREAKS, SAN FRANCISCO CALIFORNIA .

Imperial Fleet Week SF. Death Star over San Francisco
http://current.com/items/89204971/death_star_over_san_francisco.htm

linda22003
11-14-2008, 11:01 AM
[SIZE="3"]America Changed For Bad Because of The Viet Nam War :
http://www.metafilter.com/74186/Political-Ephemera-from-the-Vietnam-War-Era

Who was the president that got us involved in the Vietnam War?John F. Kennedy (D) continued by Linden B. Johnson (D) ended by Richard M NIxon (R)



This is as far as I read. There is no point in reading commentary by idiots who don't even know the names of the presidents. Lyndon Johnson was not named after a TREE. :rolleyes:

megimoo
11-14-2008, 11:20 AM
This is as far as I read. There is no point in reading commentary by idiots who don't even know the names of the presidents. Lyndon Johnson was not named after a TREE. :rolleyes:
Not mine sweetie .Not being an spelling/punctuation Nazi like thou I normally avoid running spell check on others works. An occasional misspell is quite normal in most circles and quite acceptable in technical documents .Is that your primary function at DOD checking spelling and counting dots on documents and contracts ? What a thoroughly shallow and idiotic life you must lead.

linda22003
11-14-2008, 11:26 AM
I didn't say it was yours. I assumed it was the document's. Such idiotic mistakes does render a document unreliable in my world (which is not the DoD, but it's amusing that you keep fishing. Why on earth are you so curious?). It is not acceptable in technical documents, in the world that adult decision-makers inhabit.

megimoo
11-14-2008, 11:53 AM
I didn't say it was yours. I assumed it was the document's. Such idiotic mistakes does render a document unreliable in my world (which is not the DoD, but it's amusing that you keep fishing. Why on earth are you so curious?). It is not acceptable in technical documents, in the world that adult decision-makers inhabit.
You must be an older policy wonkette at whatever bureaucracy you lurk in ?"Adult decision making",wow that sure sounds important .Are you among the top decision makers in that den of thieves taking ill gained compensation for bureaucratic bean counting ?

The reason for my curiosity is how such a nasty individual even functions in an organization .Most productive people,those who actually design hardware and are required to explain the details to the those who use the hardware. Who are more interested in the actual function within the design parameters and could care less of the accuracy of spelling and punctuation,they hire low level people to do that. That's what 'spell check' and Punctuation Nazi's are hired for !

wonkette:
A woman who appears to be a normal heterosexual but has lesbianic tendencies when drunk. May also be rude and disrespecting to others whether sober or drunk.

linda22003
11-14-2008, 01:09 PM
I wish I could say I was flattered by your curiosity, but I'm not. I'll have to rinse off your remarks in a hot shower when I get home. I have no idea, or interest, in how hardware companies handle things with their Dilberts.

And I'm really not a nasty individual. Only to you, now that Crazy Uncle Johnny is gone.

megimoo
11-14-2008, 03:02 PM
I wish I could say I was flattered by your curiosity, but I'm not. I'll have to rinse off your remarks in a hot shower when I get home. I have no idea, or interest, in how hardware companies handle things with their Dilberts.

And I'm really not a nasty individual. Only to you, now that Crazy Uncle Johnny is gone.
Your reputation as an 'hater' is well deserved here sweetie and your undeserved arrogance really doesn't become you !