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SarasotaRepub
06-17-2008, 07:49 AM
With all the horrible flooding going on in the MidWest I'm just thankful that
we don't live near the Mississippi!! The flooding has been in the paper for days of course and today was no exception. Pics showing towns we've driven through with streets under water with more to come.

TOTD: Do you feel sorry for people who build ON the rivers? This can also apply to the coast lines.

I don't. If you build a house next to the Mississippi guess what? It's gonna flood at some point. Duh.

Same with people who have houses on the coast, example FL. I'd love to have one too but I'd be sure I could replace it since a hurricane is a certainty.

SaintLouieWoman
06-17-2008, 08:25 AM
The road to Grafton, Illinois and Pere Marqette Park, the River Road, is now closed. The floodgates at the STL riverfront are closed. The President Casino is closed, because it is moored on the Mississippi and the floodgates are closed.

TOTD I don't feel sorry for the folks who are in places that traditionally flood. I do feel sorry for those with no flood insurance who are in places that have NEVER flooded. They did due diligence, but are caught by one of those 500 year events.

If you build on a coast or next to a river, you can expect to be flooded. There was someone interviewed on local tv who had a touristy place on the River Road on the way to Grafton, Illinois, who said they expected to be flooded, but the place was a gold mine in good weather. I respected the honesty there.

Sonnabend
06-17-2008, 08:54 AM
TOTD: Do you feel sorry for people who build ON the rivers? This can also apply to the coast lines.

Here? No..because those that do are part of the integrated plan we have for floods..and the neighbours rally round. We plan to a fare thee well, plans within plans, contingencies and everything organised.

They know that floods will come and are prepared.The Nymboida, the Murrumbidgee, the Nepean, we know they will overflow in winter..no problem.

talleyJudy
06-17-2008, 09:16 AM
*off topic* I have thought that the severely flooded part of New Orleans should have been made into a 'park', an RV park. With 'permanent'/long term living allowed on the strict condition that your rig is/can be ready to roll with 12 hours notice. And to expect evacuation notices during 'hurricane season'. But then, what do I know :p , as I am a firm adherent of "Garage Logic". :rolleyes:

We happen, on purpose, to live at a 50' elevation above the flood stage of both the St.Croix River (10 miles away) and the Kinnickinnic River (1 mile away). The only thing we really fear is a direct hit from a tornado... :eek: and/or maybe wildfire.

Gingersnap
06-17-2008, 09:47 AM
It will be in the upper 80s today with a slight chance of rain. We are all laughing at the idiots in Denver who are attempting to fine and/or jail some poor woman who has 3 beehives in her yard. I guess they've completely solved all those gang problems and gotten all the drunk illegal aliens off the roads. :rolleyes:

TOTD: I don't feel really broken up about the riverside or coastal people. You have to plan for these things because they do happen. Nobody here builds up against creeks or rivers because of the flash flooding. We have a similar situation with wildfire. People build houses right next to trees (or sometimes build decks around trees) and fail to maintain fire breaks. Then they lose everything when lightening strikes 5 miles away and the wildfires zoom through the woods.

SaintLouieWoman
06-17-2008, 11:09 AM
It will be in the upper 80s today with a slight chance of rain. We are all laughing at the idiots in Denver who are attempting to fine and/or jail some poor woman who has 3 beehives in her yard. I guess they've completely solved all those gang problems and gotten all the drunk illegal aliens off the roads. :rolleyes:

TOTD: I don't feel really broken up about the riverside or coastal people. You have to plan for these things because they do happen. Nobody here builds up against creeks or rivers because of the flash flooding. We have a similar situation with wildfire. People build houses right next to trees (or sometimes build decks around trees) and fail to maintain fire breaks. Then they lose everything when lightening strikes 5 miles away and the wildfires zoom through the woods.

That brings to mind California and the wildfires. You'd think people would maintain the fire breaks. The sad thing is the most beautiful locations to live generally are the most dangerous. There's a price to be paid for the tranquility most of the time.

Ginger, I suspect you have a well tended firebreak around your place.

Gingersnap
06-17-2008, 11:19 AM
That brings to mind California and the wildfires. You'd think people would maintain the fire breaks. The sad thing is the most beautiful locations to live generally are the most dangerous. There's a price to be paid for the tranquility most of the time.

Ginger, I suspect you have a well tended firebreak around your place.

Luckily, the area around my house is not subject to wildfires - too much open space. Grassfires are annoying but not dangerous where I live.

You hit the nail on the head, though. Up close and personal scenery is often inherently dangerous. People just don't believe it can happen to them.

LogansPapa
06-17-2008, 11:20 AM
http://www.wavewatch.com/Live-Surf-Cams-Region.php?CamID=20&RegionID=7

Crappy surf this morning - SW swell is weak. Should be 80 here today, with little wind.

TOTD: I don’t feel bad for those in the flood plane. You’d have to be really dumb not to see that in your escrow documents. Like buying next to a freeway and then bitching about the noise. Just pay your ridiculous insurance premiums and take your chances. People of means here in California are well aware of the risks and do just that.

asdf2231
06-17-2008, 11:41 AM
Gorgeous day here for a change. Light winds, cooler and sunny as heck.

TOTD

I am recusing myself.

Having dealt all the last week with folks who's homes and lives were destroyed, my emotions are in conflict with my logic circuits right now. :o

dixierat
06-17-2008, 11:59 AM
TOTD: Do you feel sorry for people who build ON the rivers? This can also apply to the coast lines.

Not at all. The coast line builders are particularly annoying to me. They buil houses right up to the waters edge, then a hurricane comes along and, for the most part, they expect the rest of us to pick up the tab for them to rebuild. Then they want us to stay off of "their" beach.

:cool:

jendf
06-17-2008, 12:26 PM
I have my internet back at home! Cox man was supposed to be at my home between 3 and 5. He showed up at 2:40! I was thrilled. It was a quick fix. You don't realize how naked you feel without internet until it's gone.

The internets complete me. :D

TOTD: I don't feel sorry for anyone. I just point and laugh like any good evil rethuglican would do.

I kid, I kid!!

I only feel sorry for those who are responsible and try to make the best choices they can (buy insurance, build solid houses, having emergency plans ready) and still end up with losing their homes and livelihoods.

I don't feel sorry for those who don't bother to buy insurance, build their homes as solidly as possible, and expect others to save them in times of crisis.

lacarnut
06-17-2008, 12:40 PM
Choices have consequences in life and building in areas that flood or along coast lines that are subject to hurricanes is rolling the dice. So I would say that many of these people knew that and took a chance and lost.

I do feel sorry that they are homeless and have probably lost many of their possessions. How could you not feel sorry for the children. They are blameless. I don't want to have to pay for the parents stupidity though by having my insurance rates go up.

Shannon
06-17-2008, 12:55 PM
TOTD: I don't feel sorry for anyone. I just point and laugh like any good evil rethuglican would do.




Excellent.:D

DarkScribe
06-17-2008, 06:09 PM
With all the horrible flooding going on in the MidWest I'm just thankful that
we don't live near the Mississippi!! The flooding has been in the paper for days of course and today was no exception. Pics showing towns we've driven through with streets under water with more to come.

TOTD: Do you feel sorry for people who build ON the rivers? This can also apply to the coast lines.

I don't. If you build a house next to the Mississippi guess what? It's gonna flood at some point. Duh.

Same with people who have houses on the coast, example FL. I'd love to have one too but I'd be sure I could replace it since a hurricane is a certainty.

TOTD: No, I don't. I mean....I hate to see ANYONE lost their home due to a natural disaster of some sort...flood, hurricane, tornado, etc....BUT we all know when we move to an area close to a body of water...or in an area prone to certain things, so...it is bound to happen. I suppose I do feel sorry for them...I mean, who wouldn't? It sucks...but you should be very aware of the dangers by doing so...