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marinejcksn
11-20-2008, 11:05 PM
Americans don't know civics (http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-11-19-civics_N.htm?csp=34)

By Michelle Healy, USA TODAY

From high-school dropouts to college graduates to elected officials, Americans are "alarmingly uninformed" about the USA's history, founding principals and economy — knowledge needed to participate wisely in civic life, says a report scheduled to be released Thursday.

The study, the third in a series by the non-profit Intercollegiate Studies Institute, finds that half of U.S. adults can name all three branches of government, and 54% know that the power to declare war belongs to Congress. Almost 40% incorrectly said that it belongs to the president.

And while 56% can name Paula Abdul as a judge on American Idol, only 21% know that the phrase "government of the people, by the people, for the people" comes from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address. Just 54% can correctly identify a basic description of the free enterprise system.

Those who have held elected office lack civic knowledge; 43% do not know the Electoral College is a constitutionally mandated assembly that elects the president. One in five thinks it "trains those aspiring for higher office" or "was established to supervise the first televised presidential debates."

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marinejcksn
11-20-2008, 11:16 PM
You wanna know why we get the leaders we do, you want to understand why the drones are moving the wheels and we're giving away our liberty to enact Socialism piece by piece, here's your answer. More people can identify the hosts of American Idol then the Gettysburg Address...and you wonder why these morons will throw out our Constitution if the Government just waves some "free" money at 'em? :rolleyes:

If you've got young kids, pay close attention to what they learn in school. Spend time reading together. Turn off the damn television, pick up a book and learn something as a family. It's up to all of us collectively to try & turn this thing around.

And Jinx, we all congratulate you on your new baby man. Now make sure you homeschool when it's time! ;)

Troll
11-20-2008, 11:31 PM
Thanks for posting this.

I think some of our elected officials still think we're on a Gold Standard also. If this doesn't highlight the need for having standards for letting people into voting booths, I don't know what will. I'd be interested to see a bit more data - finding out of the 50% of US adults that can't name the three branches of government, what percent were Democrats and what percent were Republicans.

And +1 at the home schooling or private schooling idea.

Sonnabend
11-21-2008, 04:27 AM
Hey, Marinejcksn: got a fun challenge for you.

Come up with a twenty question civics test for me, and lets see how I do.

I promise no Google.:)

Living in La
11-21-2008, 08:09 AM
We lived in Washington when my daughters were in elementary and junior high. We had many dinner time conversations regarding the Constitution and what it said. My oldest actually got into "debates" with her very liberal sixth grade teacher regarding the first amendment. I should have known it was getting intense when she came home and grabbed her dad's copy of "The Federalist Papers" and locked herself in her room. Her teacher suggested to me the next day that Erica "spend more time outside in the fresh air". She also quit spewing her hatred in class.

noonwitch
11-21-2008, 09:09 AM
I'm lucky, I went to good public schools. I know of some bad private schools, so one has to be careful in that sense, too. I once had to explain the difference between a Senator and a Representative to a coworker, a woman who had been educated in private schools, and actually has a master's degree.


I used one of my classic lines on that coworker-she walked into the lunchroom one day when we were all blowing up balloons for an office party, circa 1999. She asked me "What are you doing". I told her "I'm preparing for my presidential internship".

Molon Labe
11-21-2008, 10:46 AM
I'm lucky, I went to good public schools. I know of some bad private schools, so one has to be careful in that sense, too. I once had to explain the difference between a Senator and a Representative to a coworker, a woman who had been educated in private schools, and actually has a master's degree.


I used one of my classic lines on that coworker-she walked into the lunchroom one day when we were all blowing up balloons for an office party, circa 1999. She asked me "What are you doing". I told her "I'm preparing for my presidential internship".


It's not axiomatic that private are all perfect. But I'll wager that they're more effective than the public school counterparts overall.
Not knowing the difference between a Senator and Rep is small potatoes. probably more to do with being uninterested and ignorant of civics. Heck!.....I've had to teach some public school kids how to read. :p

enslaved1
11-21-2008, 11:11 AM
Another study confirming what many of us already knew by using our powers of observation.

I'd like to see a CU Civics test, myself. It would certainly be interesting to see if us blowhards really do know our stuff.

Odysseus
11-21-2008, 11:24 AM
Another study confirming what many of us already knew by using our powers of observation.

I'd like to see a CU Civics test, myself. It would certainly be interesting to see if us blowhards really do know our stuff.

We now know that Obama voters don't know much about their candidate (http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?t=8240). I wonder if we can set up a civics test using the polling options.

marinejcksn
11-21-2008, 05:12 PM
Hey, Marinejcksn: got a fun challenge for you.

Come up with a twenty question civics test for me, and lets see how I do.

I promise no Google.:)

Questions 1-10: Name the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution which compromise the Bill of Rights.

(I can personally name at least 8 out of these 10 without Google, though I always mess up 1 or 2 :p)

11. Name at least 1 Federalist.

12. Name at least 1 Anti-Federalist.

13. Name the bodies that compromise the US Congress.

14. Name the total number of seats in Congress. (specify the number of seats in each house).

15. If both the President and Vice President die in office at the same time, who becomes the new President? (name the title of position they hold. For +1 bonus point, name the specific current person)

16. How many original Colonies were there?

17. Name at least 2 powers of Congress.

18. Name at least 5 former US Presidents who served before the Civil War.

19. Name the branches of Government.

20. Give 1 example of who is in each individual branch of Government.

Phillygirl
11-21-2008, 05:36 PM
Questions 1-10: Name the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution which compromise the Bill of Rights.

(I can personally name at least 8 out of these 10 without Google, though I always mess up 1 or 2 :p)

11. Name at least 1 Federalist.

12. Name at least 1 Anti-Federalist.

13. Name the bodies that compromise the US Congress.

14. Name the total number of seats in Congress. (specify the number of seats in each house).

15. If both the President and Vice President die in office at the same time, who becomes the new President? (name the title of position they hold. For +1 bonus point, name the specific current person)

16. How many original Colonies were there?

17. Name at least 2 powers of Congress.

18. Name at least 5 former US Presidents who served before the Civil War.

19. Name the branches of Government.

20. Give 1 example of who is in each individual branch of Government.

Great quiz!! I've been working on 1- 10 with my nephew. I was glad to hear that they were at least studying this. He's in fifth grade.

ReaganForRus
11-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Where do we post our answers?:D

Personally, great quiz...........I made a 100

marinejcksn
11-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Great quiz!! I've been working on 1- 10 with my nephew. I was glad to hear that they were at least studying this. He's in fifth grade.

That's awesome! I debated on whether or not to make the quiz a separate post. You're a moderator, right? I didn't want to waste anyone's time by cutting this and making a separate posting if the thought was better that I keep it here.

PS. Just took it myself as well, I came up with the questions off the top of my head while doing my daily reading (still pushing myself through Wealth of Nations so I can move on to The Collected Writings of Thomas Paine). I got 18 out of 20, +1 for the bonus point of who'd be President if Bush & Cheney were gone. That answer should scare everyone in the country. ;)

ReaganForRus
11-21-2008, 06:14 PM
Questions 1-10: Name the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution which compromise the Bill of Rights.

(I can personally name at least 8 out of these 10 without Google, though I always mess up 1 or 2 :p)

11. Name at least 1 Federalist.

12. Name at least 1 Anti-Federalist.

13. Name the bodies that compromise the US Congress.

14. Name the total number of seats in Congress. (specify the number of seats in each house).

15. If both the President and Vice President die in office at the same time, who becomes the new President? (name the title of position they hold. For +1 bonus point, name the specific current person)

16. How many original Colonies were there?

17. Name at least 2 powers of Congress.

18. Name at least 5 former US Presidents who served before the Civil War.

19. Name the branches of Government.

20. Give 1 example of who is in each individual branch of Government.

21 Name the United States Supreme Court Justices

22. Name the document that preceded the US Constitution

Sonnabend
11-21-2008, 06:15 PM
Questions 1-10: Name the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution which compromise the Bill of Rights.

I am not sure what you mean by this (I always think of them as the Amendments, so I'll enumerate them by their purpose)

May I answer with the ones I know instead? I dont know them all in order...

1st Am. .Freedom of speech and religion (and there is no separation of Church and State)
2nd Am. Right to keep and bear arms
4th Am. Freedom of the Press
5th Am. Right to not self incriminate
Illegal Search and Seizure (cant remember which one this is)
25th Am. Presidential replacement in a time of crisis or incapacity
14th Am....Due Process (was mentioned in a thread some time ago.....somewhere..)

Thats all I know. Sorry.

(I can personally name at least 8 out of these 10 without Google, though I always mess up 1 or 2 :p)

11. Name at least 1 Federalist.

No idea.

12. Name at least 1 Anti-Federalist.

No idea.

13. Name the bodies that compromise the US Congress.

The Senate and the House of Representatives (also known as the People's House)

14. Name the total number of seats in Congress. (specify the number of seats in each house).

HA, I know this one...i had to look this one up the other day after a West Wing episode.

535.

100 in the Senate and 435 in the House..was an episode where CJ ripped a journalist to shred in the Press Room.

15. If both the President and Vice President die in office at the same time, who becomes the new President? (name the title of position they hold. For +1 bonus point, name the specific current person)

The Speaker of the House or the Speaker pro tempore (if there is no permanent one at the time of this happening. Her name would be Nancy Pelosi (D) (Washington...I think)

It's called the Line of Succession.

16. How many original Colonies were there?

Thirteen (I think) .And no one has yet explained what the hell happened to Roanoke

17. Name at least 2 powers of Congress.

The power to declare war.
The power to impeach a President.

18. Name at least 5 former US Presidents who served before the Civil War.

OUCH.:eek:

Washington (Duh....)
Jefferson
Van Buren (I think...wasnt he on a coin or something??I know this one because thats what they called Fallout 3 before it was published..and someone said he was a President...)
Adams(I think)
Jackson(I'm taking a shot with this one) (not Stonewall..he was a Civil War General.:confused:)

19. Name the branches of Government.

Executive.
Judicial.
Legislative.

20. Give 1 example of who is in each individual branch of Government.

Executive:Vice President Richard Cheney.
Judicial: Judge Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court (sp?).
Congressman John McCain (R) Ariz.

Not very good.:(

Sonnabend
11-21-2008, 06:16 PM
21 Name the United States Supreme Court Justices:eek:

I know Scalia and Roberts...that's all. I know a Harriet Meiers was either a judge or to be appointed....:confused:


22. Name the document that preceded the US ConstitutionHA that's an easy one, the Declaration of Independence. :D:D

marinejcksn
11-21-2008, 06:53 PM
Questions 1-10: Name the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution which compromise the Bill of Rights.

I am not sure what you mean by this (I always think of them as the Amendments, so I'll enumerate them by their purpose)

May I answer with the ones I know instead? I dont know them all in order...

1st Am. .Freedom of speech and religion (and there is no separation of Church and State)
2nd Am. Right to keep and bear arms
4th Am. Freedom of the Press This is the Right against illegal search & seizure.
5th Am. Right to not self incriminate
Illegal Search and Seizure (cant remember which one this is)
25th Am. Presidential replacement in a time of crisis or incapacity
14th Am....Due Process (was mentioned in a thread some time ago.....somewhere..)

Thats all I know. Sorry.

(I can personally name at least 8 out of these 10 without Google, though I always mess up 1 or 2 :p)

11. Name at least 1 Federalist.

No idea.

Alexander Hamilton is probably the easiest and most famous one to remember

12. Name at least 1 Anti-Federalist.

No idea.

Patrick Henry was a leading member.

13. Name the bodies that compromise the US Congress.

The Senate and the House of Representatives (also known as the People's House)

14. Name the total number of seats in Congress. (specify the number of seats in each house).

HA, I know this one...i had to look this one up the other day after a West Wing episode.

535.

100 in the Senate and 435 in the House..was an episode where CJ ripped a journalist to shred in the Press Room.

15. If both the President and Vice President die in office at the same time, who becomes the new President? (name the title of position they hold. For +1 bonus point, name the specific current person)

The Speaker of the House or the Speaker pro tempore (if there is no permanent one at the time of this happening. Her name would be Nancy Pelosi (D) (Washington...I think)

It's called the Line of Succession.

16. How many original Colonies were there?

Thirteen (I think) .And no one has yet explained what the hell happened to Roanoke

17. Name at least 2 powers of Congress.

The power to declare war.
The power to impeach a President.

18. Name at least 5 former US Presidents who served before the Civil War.

OUCH.:eek:

Washington (Duh....)
Jefferson
Van Buren (I think...wasnt he on a coin or something??I know this one because thats what they called Fallout 3 before it was published..and someone said he was a President...)
Adams(I think)
Jackson(I'm taking a shot with this one) (not Stonewall..he was a Civil War General)

19. Name the branches of Government.

Executive.
Judicial.
Legislative.

20. Give 1 example of who is in each individual branch of Government.

Executive:Vice President Richard Cheney.
Judicial: Judge Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court (sp?).
Congressman John McCain (R) Ariz.

Not very good.:(

Not too bad. 13/20 by my count, including the bonus point for naming Pelousy. 65%. Better then a lot of adults who're actually living in America. Well done Mate. :cool:

Odysseus
11-21-2008, 06:53 PM
Not bad. Let me try it:


Questions 1-10: Name the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution which compromise the Bill of Rights.
1: Freedom of speech, assembly and religion
2: Right to keep and bear arms
3: No quartering of troops in private homes
4: Freedom from illegal search and seizure
5: Freedom from self-incrimination
6: Right to speedy trial
7: Right to trial by jury
8: No Pooftahs :D
9: Rights not listed in the Bill of Rights are still rights (Enumeration vs. Construction).
10: Authorities not granted to the Federal Government are reserved to the states and people, respectively.
11. Name at least 1 Federalist.
Alexander Hamilton
12. Name at least 1 Anti-Federalist.
Thomas Jefferson
13. Name the bodies that compromise the US Congress.
House of Representatives and the Senate
14. Name the total number of seats in Congress. (specify the number of seats in each house).
535, 435 in the house, 100 in the senate.
15. If both the President and Vice President die in office at the same time, who becomes the new President? (name the title of position they hold. For +1 bonus point, name the specific current person)
Speaker of the house (Pelosi, D-CA)
16. How many original Colonies were there?
Thirteen
17. Name at least 2 powers of Congress.
Declare wars, regulate the armed forces, levy taxes, etc.
18. Name at least 5 former US Presidents who served before the Civil War.
Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, JQ Adams,
19. Name the branches of Government.
Executive, Legislative and Judicial
20. Give 1 example of who is in each individual branch of Government.
Executive includes the POTUS, VPOTUS, cabinet departments and the armed forces
Legislative is the house and senate and subordinate staff
Judicial is the federal court system, beginning with the circuit courts up through the SCOTUS.

How'd I do?

marinejcksn
11-21-2008, 06:54 PM
:eek:

I know Scalia and Roberts...that's all. I know a Harriet Meiers was either a judge or to be appointed....:confused:

HA that's an easy one, the Declaration of Independence.:D

21. Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, Thomas. Can't remember the last 2 :(

22. It depends on the document that's being refered to. I was going to say the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation_and_Perpetual_Union) (that one I needed Wiki to get the full title, I knew it was the Articles of Confederation but I couldn't remember the Perpetual Union part.)

marinejcksn
11-21-2008, 06:57 PM
Not bad. Let me try it:

How'd I do?

I count 21/20 Sir, extra point included. 105%. Better then I got and I made the damn thing! :eek: :D

Sonnabend
11-21-2008, 06:58 PM
WAIT

It wasnt a coin, it was a MEDAL..a Buchanan medal. I KNEW I'd seen that before...I found it in Centennial by James A Michener....

Odysseus
11-21-2008, 07:03 PM
21 Name the United States Supreme Court Justices

Roberts, Thomas, Scalia, Alito, Kennedy, Souter, Ginsberg, Breyer and Stevens.

22. Name the document that preceded the US Constitution
Articles of Confederation

Okay, here's a bit of quotation knowledge:
23. Identify the speaker of each quote.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

"There is nothing to fear, but fear, itself."

"I regret that I have but one life to give for my country."

"Give me liberty, or give me death."

"With malice toward none, with charity for all."

"I have a dream that someday, my children will be judged, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

"Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!"

"To our country. In her discourse with other nations, may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong."

"I have not yet begun to fight."

"Nuts!"

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to read."

Odysseus
11-21-2008, 07:05 PM
I count 21/20 Sir, extra point included. 105%. Better then I got and I made the damn thing! :eek: :D

C'mon, the 8th Amendment was not, "No pooftahs." :D

Sonnabend
11-21-2008, 07:07 PM
C'mon, the 8th Amendment was not, "No pooftahs." :D

Begging the Majors pardon, sir, but thats MY line, thankyewverymuch :D:D

Sonnabend
11-21-2008, 07:10 PM
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."JFK.


"There is nothing to fear, but fear, itself."Orson Welles


"I regret that I have but one life to give for my country."Nathan Hale


"Give me liberty, or give me death."William Pitt.


"With malice toward none, with charity for all."Lincoln.


"I have a dream that someday, my children will be judged, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."MLK


"Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!"Halsey.


"To our country. In her discourse with other nations, may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong."Truman.


"I have not yet begun to fight."John Paul Jones.


"Nuts!"US officer, 82nd Airborne to the German commander at the siege of Bastogne, when asked to surrender.


"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to read."

No idea.

marinejcksn
11-21-2008, 07:20 PM
C'mon, the 8th Amendment was not, "No pooftahs." :D

My apologies Sir, I thought that was some sort of slang for torture or something. :p

(8th Amendment is against cruel & unusual punishment.) :D

marinejcksn
11-21-2008, 07:35 PM
Roberts, Thomas, Scalia, Alito, Kennedy, Souter, Ginsberg, Breyer and Stevens.

23. Identify the speaker of each quote.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

"There is nothing to fear, but fear, itself."

"I regret that I have but one life to give for my country."

"Give me liberty, or give me death."

"With malice toward none, with charity for all."

"I have a dream that someday, my children will be judged, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

"Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!

"To our country. In her discourse with other nations, may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong."

"I have not yet begun to fight."

"Nuts!"

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to read."

Breyer & Stevens! I knew I missed that extreme Lefty!

In Order: JFK, FDR, Nathan Hale, Patrick Henry, Lincoln, MLK, no idea, Truman, John Paul Jones, General McAuliffe (suggested by LtCol. Kinnard. I know this because the AFN commercial showing this happening is on almost every day at the Chow Hall) :p and the final one I wanna say Groucho Marx but I doubt it.

Odysseus
11-21-2008, 09:44 PM
Breyer & Stevens! I knew I missed that extreme Lefty!

In Order: JFK, FDR, Nathan Hale, Patrick Henry, Lincoln, MLK, no idea, Truman, John Paul Jones, General McAuliffe (suggested by LtCol. Kinnard. I know this because the AFN commercial showing this happening is on almost every day at the Chow Hall) :p and the final one I wanna say Groucho Marx but I doubt it.

The quote about our country, right or wrong, was Stephen Decatur, and Damn the torpedoes was David Farragut, but you got Groucho, which was the tougher one. Well done, Marine. ;)

AmPat
11-21-2008, 10:20 PM
I'm lucky, I went to good public schools. I know of some bad private schools, so one has to be careful in that sense, too. I once had to explain the difference between a Senator and a Representative to a coworker, a woman who had been educated in private schools, and actually has a master's degree.


I used one of my classic lines on that coworker-she walked into the lunchroom one day when we were all blowing up balloons for an office party, circa 1999. She asked me "What are you doing". I told her "I'm preparing for my presidential internship".

I went to DOD schools for most of my life. I changed schools at no less than every two years. I enrolled in 3 schools during my 6 or 7th grade. I had challenges to overcome but the one thing I believe was strong was the education pertaining to Gov't,Civics, and history.

I am dismayed at the lack of knowlege our voters show. This ignorance is alarming when most of our population vote with their emotions and genitalia. These Obamorons have changed our once proud yet flawed government into a soon-to-be Socialist hellhole. Bailouts/Liberals/Socialist/wimpy RINOS.

I want a REAL CONSERVATIVE PARTY BACK. Would somebody please start a third party that is unapologetically CONSERVATIVE?

marinejcksn
11-21-2008, 11:06 PM
I want a REAL CONSERVATIVE PARTY BACK. Would somebody please start a third party that is unapologetically CONSERVATIVE?

Demand only real Conservative candidates, be they Republican or Democrat and let your vote cast your voice. If your state representatives put up a moderate RINO, vote for the Libertarian candidate instead.

Basically the Libertarian Party is the only party that appeals to me these days; but a lot of them focus too much on the extreme side of minimal government and thus scare away Social Conservatives who might be tempted to vote Libertarian.

Either that, or you can help me form my own 3rd Party. It's a blend of strong Conservative & Libertarian ideals, I call it Conservatarian. :D

Troll
11-22-2008, 01:01 AM
Either that, or you can help me form my own 3rd Party. It's a blend of strong Conservative & Libertarian ideals, I call it Conservatarian. :D

Is it too early to start sending donations?

Odysseus
11-22-2008, 10:28 AM
I used one of my classic lines on that coworker-she walked into the lunchroom one day when we were all blowing up balloons for an office party, circa 1999. She asked me "What are you doing". I told her "I'm preparing for my presidential internship".
You were sucking the air out of the balloons? :eek:

Is it too early to start sending donations?
Nope. Like voting, do it early and often.

marinejcksn
11-22-2008, 04:32 PM
You were sucking the air out of the balloons? :eek:

So that explains the funny voice. :p

Odysseus
11-22-2008, 08:52 PM
So that explains the funny voice. :p

Among other things. :D

AlmostThere
11-23-2008, 03:08 PM
I had a test question in a Pol Sci class 25 years ago that I answered much to my prof's surprise. He didn't expect a complete answer from the class. Low expectations I guess.

If your 4th Amendment's rights are violated (search & seizure), name another amendment's right that will also likely be cited.
The kicker: Name the 20th century Supreme Court case that was instrumental in defining a person's rights under the 4th Amendment. Hint: It involved possession of heroin.

Ree
11-23-2008, 06:07 PM
Try this quiz...
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx

linda22003
11-23-2008, 07:04 PM
Try this quiz...
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx

I got 93.94% (two questions wrong). How did "college educators" get 55%? What did they teach, Phys Ed?

Celtic Rose
11-23-2008, 07:12 PM
Try this quiz...
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx

87.88%. I'm ashamed of myself :( :o

marinejcksn
11-23-2008, 07:18 PM
You answered 29 out of 33 correctly — 87.88 %

Damn you Linda! I thought I was real smart. You have bested me. :(

Still, 87.88% with only a high school education...guess those "dumb Jarheads" must have some brains huh? I'm gonna use this next time one of my high school buddies who went to college on mommy & daddy's dime and found Liberal "enlightenment" tries to pull my punk card and say us Military boys are stupid. :p

linda22003
11-23-2008, 07:19 PM
I got 31 and 33 wrong, I think.

marinejcksn
11-23-2008, 07:20 PM
87.88%. I'm ashamed of myself :( :o

Which ones did you flub up? I missed all the end questions: # 27, 29, 30 & 31. :o

Celtic Rose
11-23-2008, 07:31 PM
Which ones did you flub up? I missed all the end questions: # 27, 29, 30 & 31. :o

7, 29, 30, 33

30 seems to be a theme :p

Phillygirl
11-23-2008, 07:40 PM
I got 100%. But I had to think real hard on the economics questions. I totally suck at them.

Now I'll try to concentrate on MarineJack's quiz and the followups. They were more difficult. I knew Nathan Hale and Patrick Henry, but seeing the two together made me unsure which said which.

Odysseus
11-24-2008, 11:07 AM
I had a test question in a Pol Sci class 25 years ago that I answered much to my prof's surprise. He didn't expect a complete answer from the class. Low expectations I guess.

If your 4th Amendment's rights are violated (search & seizure), name another amendment's right that will also likely be cited.
The kicker: Name the 20th century Supreme Court case that was instrumental in defining a person's rights under the 4th Amendment. Hint: It involved possession of heroin.
Probably the 5th Amendment, since an illegal search or seizure would also compromise deprivation of liberty or property, without due process of law. I'm also going to cite Miranda as the court case.

I got 100%. But I had to think real hard on the economics questions. I totally suck at them.

Now I'll try to concentrate on MarineJack's quiz and the followups. They were more difficult. I knew Nathan Hale and Patrick Henry, but seeing the two together made me unsure which said which.
Nathan Hale gave one life for his country, while Patrick Henry offered it if he couldn't have liberty.

noonwitch
11-24-2008, 01:15 PM
Questions 1-10: Name the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution which compromise the Bill of Rights.

(I can personally name at least 8 out of these 10 without Google, though I always mess up 1 or 2 :p)

11. Name at least 1 Federalist.

12. Name at least 1 Anti-Federalist.

13. Name the bodies that compromise the US Congress.

14. Name the total number of seats in Congress. (specify the number of seats in each house).

15. If both the President and Vice President die in office at the same time, who becomes the new President? (name the title of position they hold. For +1 bonus point, name the specific current person)

16. How many original Colonies were there?

17. Name at least 2 powers of Congress.

18. Name at least 5 former US Presidents who served before the Civil War.

19. Name the branches of Government.

20. Give 1 example of who is in each individual branch of Government.


I know most of these:

11. Alexander Hamilton
12. Aaron Burr
13. The House of Representatives and the Senate
14. I don't know how many in the house, but there are 100 Senators, plus the VP when there is a tie.
15. The speaker of the house/Nancy Pelosi, at this time. After her is the Senate Majority leader (Harry Reid), then the Secretary of State (Condoleeza Rice).
16. 13
17. Pass laws, determine the nation's budget and approve the president's judicial appointments.
19. Executive, judicial and legislative
20. Executive: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, the cabinet members like Condoleeza Rice and Henry Paulson. Also includes US Attorneys, FBI agents, all employees of cabinet departments.
Judicial: Anthony Scalia, Ruth Bader-Ginsburg, judges in local and regional federal courts.
Legislative: Sander Levin (House), Carl Levin (Senate).


All my extra knowlege should make up for my not knowing how many representatives are in the House. I went to public school, K-BSW.

Odysseus
11-24-2008, 03:00 PM
Okay, here's one that will really mortify:

A. Name the celebrity who was caught in a photo leaving a car without underwear.
B. Name the celebrity who leaped up and down on a couch during an episode of the Oprah Winfrey show.
C. Name the professional baseball player who was implicated in the Madonna/Guy Ritchie divorce.
D. Name one of Charlie Sheen's ex-wives.
E. Who is Joey Buttafucco?
F. Since 9/11, five members of the United States military have been awarded the Medal of Honor for actions Southwest Asia. Name them.

Odysseus
11-24-2008, 03:00 PM
BTW, the answer to F is:

Army Sergeant First Class Paul Ray Smith
Marine Corps Corporal Jason Dunham
Navy Lieutenant Michael P. Murphy (SEAL)
Navy MA2 Michael A. Monsoor (SEAL)
Army PFC Ross A. McGinnis

Next time some liberal tells you that they support the troops, see how many of these brave men they can name.

AlmostThere
11-24-2008, 04:09 PM
Probably the 5th Amendment, since an illegal search or seizure would also compromise deprivation of liberty or property, without due process of law. I'm also going to cite Miranda as the court case.

14th. A question of equal protection under the law.
The case was Ybarra v. Illinois from 1979. Ybarra had been in a bar that was searched with a warrant. His name wasn't on the warrant and the court ruled that once police determined he wasn't armed, their ability to search him ended.

Sonnabend
11-24-2008, 04:24 PM
Major

What is the name of the youngest man ever to win the Victoria Cross, and where was it won.

Odysseus
11-24-2008, 06:40 PM
Major
What is the name of the youngest man ever to win the Victoria Cross, and where was it won.
I have no idea, but based on what I know about the VC, it would have been a sixteen-year-old, perhaps younger, but not by much, prior to WWI, but obviously after the beginning of Queen Victoria's reign (after WWI, the youngest service-member would have been 17), so that meant that it was either the Crimean War, The Boxer Rebellion, the Boer War or the Zulu War. I'll Google it after posting, but I wanted to get my guess down first.

Sonnabend
11-25-2008, 07:07 AM
http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/ophons05/beharry.htm

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00202/F_200606_June27Ed_i_202877a.jpg

Pte Beharry receives the Victoria Cross for two separate acts of outstanding gallantry of the highest order whilst based in Al Amarah, Maysan Province, Iraq, in 2004.

In the first incident on 1 May 2004, Pte Beharry was driving the Platoon Commander’s Warrior armoured vehicle that had been called to the assistance of a foot patrol caught in a series of ambushes. The Warrior vehicle was hit by multiple rocket propelled grenades,causing damage and resulting in the loss of radio communications.

The platoon commander, the vehicle’s gunner and a number of other soldiers in the vehicle were injured. Pte Beharry showed initiative and great courage driving through the ambush,taking his own crew and leading five other Warriors to safety. He then demonstrated outstanding
bravery by extracting his wounded colleagues from the vehicle, all the time exposed to further enemy fire. He is cited on this occasion for “valour of the highest order”.

linda22003
11-25-2008, 08:21 AM
Okay, here's one that will really mortify:

A. Name the celebrity who was caught in a photo leaving a car without underwear.
B. Name the celebrity who leaped up and down on a couch during an episode of the Oprah Winfrey show.
C. Name the professional baseball player who was implicated in the Madonna/Guy Ritchie divorce.
D. Name one of Charlie Sheen's ex-wives.
E. Who is Joey Buttafucco?
F. Since 9/11, five members of the United States military have been awarded the Medal of Honor for actions Southwest Asia. Name them.

A - Britney or Lindsay; don't know, don't care.
B - I don't watch Oprah; I have a job.
C - You could just have the question be "Name a professional baseball player", stop there, and I still would not be able to answer it.
D - Dunno.
E - I think a girl he was seeing shot his wife, several years ago.
F - Monsoor I remember; all those pins put on his coffin.

Odysseus
11-25-2008, 10:00 AM
http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/ophons05/beharry.htm

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00202/F_200606_June27Ed_i_202877a.jpg

Pte Beharry receives the Victoria Cross for two separate acts of outstanding gallantry of the highest order whilst based in Al Amarah, Maysan Province, Iraq, in 2004.

In the first incident on 1 May 2004, Pte Beharry was driving the Platoon Commander’s Warrior armoured vehicle that had been called to the assistance of a foot patrol caught in a series of ambushes. The Warrior vehicle was hit by multiple rocket propelled grenades,causing damage and resulting in the loss of radio communications.

The platoon commander, the vehicle’s gunner and a number of other soldiers in the vehicle were injured. Pte Beharry showed initiative and great courage driving through the ambush,taking his own crew and leading five other Warriors to safety. He then demonstrated outstanding
bravery by extracting his wounded colleagues from the vehicle, all the time exposed to further enemy fire. He is cited on this occasion for “valour of the highest order”.


Unless he was younger than 15 years, three months, he's not the youngest recipient.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Andrew Fitzgibbon VC (13 May 1845 -7 March 1883) born Goojerat,India, he was the youngest recipient of the Victoria Cross, the highest and most prestigious award for gallantry in the face of the enemy that can be awarded to British and Commonwealth forces.
He was fifteen years old, and a Hospital Apprentice in the Indian Medical Establishment, Indian Army, attched to the 67th Regiment (later The Royal Hampshire Regiment) during the Third China War when the following deed took place for which he was awarded the VC.
On 21 August 1860 at the capture of the Northern of the Taku Forts, China, Hospital Apprentice Fitzgibbon accompanied a wing of the 67th Regiment when it took up a position within 500 yards of the fort. He then proceeded, under heavy fire, to attend a dhoolie-bearer, whose wound he had been directed to bind up, and while the regiment was advancing under the enemy's fire, he ran across the open ground to attend to another wounded man. In doing so he was himself severely wounded.

biccat
11-25-2008, 03:02 PM
Which ones did you flub up? I missed all the end questions: # 27, 29, 30 & 31. :o

I certainly missed #30,

30) Which of the following fiscal policy combinations would a government most likely follow to stimulate economic activity when the economy is in a severe recession?
A. increasing both taxes and spending
B. increasing taxes and decreasing spending
C. decreasing taxes and increasing spending
D. decreasing both taxes and spending
Must've been the realist in me that picked "A".

:(

I also missed #s 31 and 33. I think their answer is wrong for #31, and #33 has two correct answers.

Ah well, a fun quiz. Now I'm gonna see if I can do yours...we'll see.

biccat
11-25-2008, 03:24 PM
Questions 1-10:

Name the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution which compromise the Bill of Rights.

Freedom of press, speech, religion.
Right to keep and bear arms.
The right to be free from quartering soldiers
Right against unreasonable search and seizure
Right to due process/self-incrimination/double jeopardy
Right to a trial by jury & confrontation
In civil matters arising at law, the right to a trial by jury for amounts in excess of $20.
The right to be free from cruel & unusual punishment.
The bill of rights is not self-limiting.
All other rights are reserved to the states.

11. Name at least 1 Federalist.
Marbury

12. Name at least 1 Anti-Federalist.
Madison

13. Name the bodies that compromise the US Congress.
Senate & House of Representatives

14. Name the total number of seats in Congress. (specify the number of seats in each house).
535 - 100 in the senate, 435 in the house, not counting nonvoting members.

15. If both the President and Vice President die in office at the same time, who becomes the new President? (name the title of position they hold. For +1 bonus point, name the specific current person)
Speaker of the House, currently Nancy Pelosi

16. How many original Colonies were there?
Thirteen

17. Name at least 2 powers of Congress.
To provide for the advancement of the arts.
To enforce the provisions of the 14th amendment by appropriate legislation

18. Name at least 5 former US Presidents who served before the Civil War.
Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Polk, Buchanan, Lincoln (technically ;))

19. Name the branches of Government.
Executive, Legislative, Judicial.

20. Give 1 example of who is in each individual branch of Government.
Executive: President of the United States (George Bush)
Judicial: Chief Justice of the United States (John Roberts)
Legislative: Senator (Harry Reid) or Representative (Mike Rogers)

Sonnabend
11-25-2008, 04:28 PM
Andrew Fitzgibbon VC (13 May 1845 -7 March 1883) born Goojerat,India, he was the youngest recipient of the Victoria Cross,

...I'll be damned.

Thanks, Odysseus.:)

biccat
11-25-2008, 04:59 PM
I had a test question in a Pol Sci class 25 years ago that I answered much to my prof's surprise. He didn't expect a complete answer from the class. Low expectations I guess.

If your 4th Amendment's rights are violated (search & seizure), name another amendment's right that will also likely be cited.
The kicker: Name the 20th century Supreme Court case that was instrumental in defining a person's rights under the 4th Amendment. Hint: It involved possession of heroin.
My guess on the first part would be the 14th amendment, since most violations of rights come from state actors, not federal actors.

As for the second part...I'm not big on the factual background of the "big" 4th amendment cases. Are you thinking of Katz?