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ABC
01-06-2018, 10:21 PM
Question ...

Are there any reliable sources on the percentage of patients on "medical marijuana" in the US?

This I am not against.

But, personally, I am 100% against legalizing pot as a recreational drug ...

No matter the restrictions put on it, by some of the states that do.

ABC
01-06-2018, 10:35 PM
Rats! Time got away from me ...

Will have to get back with my reasons for it when I can.

Rockntractor
01-06-2018, 10:36 PM
Question ...

Are there any reliable sources on the percentage of patients on "medical marijuana" in the US?

This I am not against.

But, personally, I am 100% against legalizing pot as a recreational drug ...

No matter the restrictions put on it, by some of the states that do.
30 states have legal medical marijuana and Sessions has vowed to prosecute it also. We will lose the fall elections without question if federal law is not changed, is it worth throwing everything away over pot?

DumbAss Tanker
01-06-2018, 11:04 PM
It's so pervasive, both medical (Legit and the vastly-more numerous made-up-just-to-get-the-card type) and ignored recreational use, that it's already de facto legal, like booze in the final days of Prohibition. I personally find it nasty-smelling loser-bait, but at this point nothing positive for the DOJ and Prez can come of Sessions taking this tack and seriously pursuing it.

Rockntractor
01-06-2018, 11:08 PM
To those that think it's an insignificant problem I remember another insignificant plant/habit and all they wanted to do was tax it not prohibit it. I'm thinking it was tea.

old dog
01-06-2018, 11:37 PM
The economy, stupid.

James (The Snake) Carville, 1992



Whatever happens with it, marijuana is not going to move the needle on the 2018 elections. The people for whom it is a pivotal issue won't be voting GOP, never have, never will. If anything, it will motivate the social conservative base of the GOP. Sessions is going after this to distract the base from the God awful, incompetent job he is doing as a whole.

3rd-try
01-07-2018, 12:19 AM
I think you have to pick your battles wisely. Sessions needs to be reeled in on this. This "I intend to prosecute any and everybody no matter what" is willfully ignorant. He is wrong medically, and wrong politically. For him to grandstand this issue is another way of avoiding the real problems he should be focused on.

SVPete
01-07-2018, 09:32 AM
Medical marijuana was a Trojan Horse from square one. There are numerous doctors who will prescribe MMJ for anything, and the MMJ advocates knew this in advance. The intent of MMJ was to give cover for personal-use dopers, complicating and confusing law enforcement.

Real medicines are of controlled purity and dose. MMJ dispensaries sell product of varying quality and the "dose" is "as 'needed'".

MMJ advocates played on the compassion of voters and legislators to get their fraud passed.

Rockntractor
01-07-2018, 10:14 AM
Tax revenue in Colorado exceeded 500 million last fall and many other states are hauling it in too, they won't give in easily.
Is it really wise to raise a stink like this on an election year?

SarasotaRepub
01-07-2018, 12:30 PM
Tax revenue in Colorado exceeded 500 million last fall and many other states are hauling it in too, they won't give in easily.
Is it really wise to raise a stink like this on an election year?


No, it isn't. But that's the Republicans for ya.

NJCardFan
01-07-2018, 12:30 PM
The problem with medical marijuana, it's nothing but an excuse to use it. I'd venture a guess that more than 50% of those who use it are doing so for recreational purposes.

ABC
01-07-2018, 09:19 PM
Mercy! Such thought provoking replies!

Even 'though I still maintain that legalizing "recreational pot" is a mistake, especially for the *future* of the country ...

And I agree with old dog when he wrote that "Whatever happens with it, marijuana is not going to move the needle on the 2018 elections" plus the reasons he gave for stating it ...

I will admit that now, so close to the fall elections is really not a good time for Sessions (who is correct on fed law vs. state law) to get involved.

Okay ... :biggrin-new:

Now onto the *next* distraction/fiasco/whatever, to Trump getting his agenda through congress toward making America great again!!!

Old n Grumpy
01-08-2018, 09:55 AM
I don't think this is going to be the long term windfall the states are expecting. I watched a show last night and in Ca it is extremely expensive and difficult to be a legal grower. Then you have all the people wanting to get in on the windfall and it will create a glut of product driving down the prices.

Once the retail price gets to high people will grow their own or get a medical card or buy on the black market.

noonwitch
01-08-2018, 02:37 PM
Medical marijuana was a Trojan Horse from square one. There are numerous doctors who will prescribe MMJ for anything, and the MMJ advocates knew this in advance. The intent of MMJ was to give cover for personal-use dopers, complicating and confusing law enforcement.

Real medicines are of controlled purity and dose. MMJ dispensaries sell product of varying quality and the "dose" is "as 'needed'".

MMJ advocates played on the compassion of voters and legislators to get their fraud passed.


We have MMJ in Michigan. The laws are so generous that pretty much anyone over 21 can get it. I would prefer all-out legalization because I feel like the MMJ laws are encouraging dishonesty. Plus, I am a liberal. I want to see it taxed, but I also want to see the revenue raised by the taxes used for either improving our aging infrastructure or some other programs that improve the life of the citizens. I would say give it to the schools, but the lottery money is allegedly going to help the schools and I don't see them improving. Maybe use it to get Junior Achievement in more schools.

Rockntractor
01-08-2018, 04:17 PM
We have MMJ in Michigan. The laws are so generous that pretty much anyone over 21 can get it. I would prefer all-out legalization because I feel like the MMJ laws are encouraging dishonesty. Plus, I am a liberal. I want to see it taxed, but I also want to see the revenue raised by the taxes used for either improving our aging infrastructure or some other programs that improve the life of the citizens. I would say give it to the schools, but the lottery money is allegedly going to help the schools and I don't see them improving. Maybe use it to get Junior Achievement in more schools.
That makes no sense, you are saying you would rather have tax payers benefit than Mexican and south American drug lords what planet are you from!

Dlr Pyro
01-08-2018, 08:34 PM
IT's not a hill for me to die on. I don't smoke pot and don't want to be around anyone who does but there are bigger issues to tackle.

What does bother me is how the states are increasing their disregard for Federal law, most specifically with the sanctuary city/states that are appearing. Illegal immigration affects the safety and prosperity of everyone in the Nation. If these states want to disregard Federal law and have their immigration policy, they should show a pair of balls, secede from the Country and make a go of it on their own without any financial or other support from the Federal government.

ABC
01-08-2018, 09:14 PM
IT's not a hill for me to die on. I don't smoke pot and don't want to be around anyone who does but there are bigger issues to tackle.

What does bother me is how the states are increasing their disregard for Federal law, most specifically with the sanctuary city/states that are appearing. Illegal immigration affects the safety and prosperity of everyone in the Nation. If these states want to disregard Federal law and have their immigration policy, they should show a pair of balls, secede from the Country and make a go of it on their own without any financial or other support from the Federal government.

Holy Cow! A kindred spirit indeed!

In internet speak ... :loveu: *blush* :biggrin-new: