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SarasotaRepub
11-14-2018, 09:30 AM
The day before the deadly Camp Fire erupted in California, a power utility company emailed a property owner asking for permission to access the woman’s property to address sparking power lines, according to the Associated Press (https://www.apnews.com/d35f16e96afc4482bf10909d2e52fbfa).


Betsy Ann Cowley, who lives in Pulga, Calif. near where the fire started, said that she got an email from Pacific Gas & Electric while on vacation Wednesday in which the power company told her “they were having problems with sparks,” she told the AP.


Cowley said the power company visited her property but she said she wasn’t there and was not aware of their findings, the AP reported.


LINK (http://fortune.com/2018/11/13/pge-email-sparks-before-california-camp-fire/)

SVPete
11-14-2018, 10:18 AM
I've heard that something similar is a suspect in the Woolsey Fire in SoCal (Southern California Edison instead of PG & E).

cadillac shark
11-14-2018, 12:27 PM
Cowley said the power company visited her property but she said she wasn’t there and was not aware of their findings.

She'll certainly be aware when PG&E will force customers to 'foot the bill' for the entire disaster from deaths-to-damages, thanks to another edict that Governor Brown signed. -Allowing utility-companies to pass liability-costs on to their subscribers.

SVPete
11-14-2018, 12:46 PM
She'll certainly be aware when PG&E will force customers to 'foot the bill' for the entire disaster from deaths-to-damages, thanks to another edict that Governor Brown signed. -Allowing utility-companies to pass liability-costs on to their subscribers.

Ummmmm ... PG & E and SoCal Edison - like your state's electric companies - don't print money, and the PUC mandates rates that preclude any kind of significant disaster fund, so where else would they get the money?

DumbAss Tanker
11-14-2018, 01:22 PM
Ummmmm ... PG & E and SoCal Edison - like your state's electric companies - don't print money, and the PUC mandates rates that preclude any kind of significant disaster fund, so where else would they get the money?

Yup. Where the Hell else would the money come from? Even if they had a contingency fund, it would ultimately have to have traced back to the ratepayers.

Elspeth
11-14-2018, 04:32 PM
Notice that the number of fires (and their ferocity) has really picked up in the past 18 years (since Gray Davis, who was in the pocket of the utilities). One wonders how much they have been allowed to get away with in deferred maintenance and ignored problems.

Elspeth
11-14-2018, 04:33 PM
Ummmmm ... PG & E and SoCal Edison - like your state's electric companies - don't print money, and the PUC mandates rates that preclude any kind of significant disaster fund, so where else would they get the money?

Besides, the companies need that money for bribes to keep California politicians turning the other way.

cadillac shark
11-14-2018, 07:06 PM
PG&E has already denied they sent the email:

“We have not seen anything that includes a discussion with the customer in question about ‘sparks’ and PG&E infrastructure. This is not the same line that PG&E identified in its Electric Incident Report on Nov. 8.”

-After PG&E stock was temporarily 'frozen' on the NYSE, before allowing trading to resume on it. With a loss of $7.00 per share.

With 48 dead and 200 missing in the Camp Fire, PG&E won't be 'getting' any money from them. In fact, the liabilities will exceed the Utility's insurance-liability coverage.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/pge-sued-by-california-residents-who-lost-homes-in-deadly-wildfire

noonwitch
11-16-2018, 10:27 AM
Besides, the companies need that money for bribes to keep California politicians turning the other way.


They may get sued into settling with residents.

In the 80s, Consumer's Power in West MI (I think it was the summer of 1986) had to cough up money for flooding they caused. They run the hydroelectric dams on various rivers, including the Muskegon River, which has at least 3 reservoirs in the area around Newaygo and Big Rapids. There was a lot of rain in that summer, and the company failed to let water out gradually in response and then the ponds flowed over and flooded the river, ruining homes and cottages. They had to settle with all the home owners.

And this is much worse negligence.

Rockntractor
11-16-2018, 10:49 AM
They should send a letter out telling everyone to get a solar panel and the close their doors.