Wanting to torture people on top of that is just perverted. It's not going to bring back victims, it's not going to un-do crimes. It's sick.
I'm not "victimizing" the criminal, I'm recognizing that criminals are people too, they are human beings who suffer and love and feel pain and joy. I think criminals should be punished but getting joy out of torturing another human being is just plain evil.Quote:
Again, you are victimizing the criminal. If they want to keep their liberties, they should abide by the law.
If a person has a strong sense of "justice", and goes around picking up prostitutes and torturing them and murdering them, that is absolutely wrong. Just because he's doing it out of a sense of justice doesn't make it any less wrong. If a state does it though, that's okay? That's obscene.
Laws are necessary, enforcement of laws is necessary, punishment is necessary, but when you take it beyond that and try to torture for vengeance, you become no better than the evil people you are condemning.
Wee Wee, why do you keep bringing up torture? Lethal injection is virtually painless.
It was brought up by another poster and then the subject came up of making prisons as awful as possible for some reason.
Prisons should have 3 purposes:
1. Isolate violent criminals, so that they are not a threat to the rest of society.
2. Strip the freedoms of criminals, punishing them for their crimes.
3. Rehabilitate criminals, giving them therapy, work skills, psychological treatment, so that when they are released they can be productive members of society.
Killing people doesn't need to be a part of that, making their living conditions as awful as possible to torture them isn't necessary and it's wrong.
In the United States, 53% of arrested males and 39% of arrested females are re-incarcerated (2003).
The only thing prisons teach criminals, is how to become better criminals.
People like Wei give little to no value for a human life. When someone takes a life by murder it is worth just that another life. To say a human life is only worth 10 20 30 years or even the rest of your days is devaluing the life that was stolen.
Albert Fish, H.Mudd looked FORWARD to their execution.