I am going to start doing that, myself. I am done with United Way.
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The BSA has since the beginning of this issue tried to portray themselves as protecting children and merely discriminating against gay (and by implication probably dangerous) adults (regardless of parental status), and have tended to dodge the issue of discriminating against gay scouts by basically pretending that they don't exist. The "does not proactively inquire" is simply another form of "don't ask, don't tell" but to a gay child it means the same thing it did to military personnel: If you find out that I am gay, you will harm me.
You no more have to "introduce" homosexual orientation than you do heterosexual orientation. Gay kids are coming out at younger and younger ages- mostly because they no longer expect and fear parental ignorance.
Singing songs about kissing is sexuality. It's not sexual activity, it's sexuality. Modeling heterosexuality (school dances with boy-girl couples, king and queen designations and such) is also begun at a quite early age. I first played a husband when I was in second grade. I'm sure I modeled heterosexual behavior before that, I certainly remember people (peers and adults) making stupid remarks about me and my friend Elizabeth when we were both small children. Imagine people saying "one day you'll fuck" to kids. They didn't say that of course, but to try to program us into seeing ourselves married in the future was inappropriate.
Yep ... The ones on my list:
The Boy Scouts
The Girl Scouts
My local school athletic department
My local school arts (Music, chorus, theater) department
The local food bank
My local Salvation Army
My local fire department
My local humane society
Wounded warriors
Fisher House
Our Military Kids
USO
VFW
American Legion
Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh
Janet Weis Children's Hospital (Geisinger)
American Cancer Society
National MS Society
I also help support my church. But that is a given ..
I also sponsor a child through Compassion International.
You are a pathetic, attention whore, hyperbolic drama queen. Why is it everything has to be a "queer" thing with you deviants? Every single action has to have some type of horrific, dire, and diabolical motivation behind it and you are the sole victim in such a cruel world. What a bunch of self centered, childish trash. "Imagine" someone saying something they actually didn't say? Tell me, deviant, what separates you from the DUmbass that asked "what if everyone had a masters degree"? It's the same type of emotionally stunted bullshit that one expects from a pre pubescent child who refuse to live in reality.
"Modeling heterosexuality" is done because that is the way of nature. We don't teach children sexuality because, duh, they're children! Your point about gay "kids" coming out at younger ages is bullshit. Attaching some type of sexuality to the behavior of a child is tantamount to emotional and mental abuse. They don't have the capacity to rationally make these types of decisions because they're fucking brains are still developing and we (society) have a duty to teach them restraint and rational thought as opposed to encouraging deviant behavior. Utter stupidity and encouraging virtue through your genitals is no way to shape young children into rational, civilized adults. Your entire post, the pile of excrement that it is, is a clear example of why homosexuals should never be allowed near young children.
BTW, nova, there were queers in the armed forces long before your leper messiah forced them upon the civilized men and women who volunteer to protect the rights of everyone, not just a warped minority. I can tell you for a fact that they were there, we knew who they were, and we protected them. They performed their duties honorably, did not try and push their perversions on us, lived their private lives in private.
Then there were those who could not restrain themselves and would put their hands on others in living spaces, out in town, and in shower rooms. Guess what? Just like anyone else that commits sexual assault, they got their asses beat. It takes a very stupid man to put his hands on another man in a sexual manner, especially if that other man is trained to kill people and break things.
Take your fucking whining elsewhere, you're not getting near the children.
It's the thread topic.
Heterosexuality is the nature of heterosexuals.
What decisions? About sexual orientation? You ought to know better than that.
You are the one thinking with your genitals. Sex is secondary to sexual orientation regardless of whether you are talking about heterosexuals or homosexuals. Maybe we should call it "romantic orientation" so it won't keep confusing you and your genitals.
I'm sure you were on the fence about that prior to my post.
There are volunteers on the payroll of the Army? Do they not cash their checks?
That's mighty white of you.
You mean as opposed to the heterosexual enlisted men with their pin-up girls and hula tattoos? That was probably just in old movies. I doubt any heterosexual male in the Army would discuss his romantic desires or brag about his sexual prowess.
And this has to do with?
You're boring me.....
I found scouting so thoroughly boring that I dumped it early on. Perhaps it was being a rural youth that made scouting seem rather redundant, perhaps it was because after spending all day with a female school teacher I didn't want to spend the afternoon with somebody's mother making crafts in the cellar with "friends" not of my own choosing. Maybe if Cub Scouts hadn't been so tedious I would have enjoyed real scouting. Oh, and go fuck yourself and your nasty insinuations.
Actually, the thread topic is about the United Way attempting to force their values upon another organization by denying the ability of individuals to contribute to the BSA through them.
No, it's the nature of nature. Homosexuality flies in the very face of that nature and our design.Quote:
Heterosexuality is the nature of heterosexuals.
I ought to know better than that? Really? And who are you, deviant, to tell me that? I have children, that were created naturally, as was intended. My wife and I taught them civilized behavior and put the natural example of how to live their lives in front of them, I can proudly say they have not ended up as sexual deviants. I also know that young children do not have the capacity to rationalize such things and allowing them to lead with feelings instead of thought is a recipe to end up with a fucked up kid.Quote:
What decisions? About sexual orientation? You ought to know better than that.
How about you, nova? Any children?
Wasn't talking about sex, maybe you should reread and try to grasp the context.Quote:
You are the one thinking with your genitals. Sex is secondary to sexual orientation regardless of whether you are talking about heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Confusion in my genitals? I don't engage in homosexual activity, there is no confusion in my genitals or anywhere else.Quote:
Maybe we should call it "romantic orientation" so it won't keep confusing you and your genitals.
Uh, yeah, every one of them. Guess what, nova? The Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Coast Guard all have volunteers as well. Conscription ended almost 40 years ago.Quote:
There are volunteers on the payroll of the Army?
Just think, all volunteers who stand the line in your place to give you the right to whine about how you fucked up your childhood.
It was. There have been regulations in place that got rid of centerfolds and offensive tattoos for many years.Quote:
You mean as opposed to the heterosexual enlisted men with their pin-up girls and hula tattoos? That was probably just in old movies.
Let's review, shall we?Quote:
And this has to do with?
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Does that clear it up? Or is being obtuse not an act with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by me
Perhaps. Or, if you weren't so self centered, you could have maybe made new friends with whom you could have gone into the regular BSA.Quote:
I found scouting so thoroughly boring that I dumped it early on. Perhaps it was being a rural youth that made scouting seem rather redundant, perhaps it was because after spending all day with a female school teacher I didn't want to spend the afternoon with somebody's mother making crafts in the cellar with "friends" not of my own choosing. Maybe if Cub Scouts hadn't been so tedious I would have enjoyed real scouting.
Noted. You're still not getting anywhere near the children, deviant.Quote:
Oh, and go fuck yourself and your nasty insinuations.