The VP Debate

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Originally Posted by TVDOC

Unfortunately you are incorrect......I've met the man (one-on-one, casually), and HE IS STUPID, in the worst way possible, he is actually incapabable of logical thought. That said, he also is an astute politition with a professional staff to help him with his lack of intellect, and therefore can't be totally dismissed. He's also a closet drunk.....a well-guarded secret.

Having that imbecile a heartbeat away from the presidency has been my worst fears regarding the Obama years......he's Spiro Agnew on steroids.....

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The cynic in me thinks he was picked as an insurance policy. Nothing would happen to Obama while Biden was next in line.

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Originally Posted by TVDOC

Having that imbecile a heartbeat away from the presidency has been my worst fears regarding the Obama years......he's Spiro Agnew on steroids.....

doc

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The question is who is of more danger to the country, an easily manipulated imbecile or an avowed Marxist.

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Originally Posted by Rockntractor

The question is who is of more danger to the country, an easily manipulated imbecile or an avowed Marxist.

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At least a Marxist is predictable.......

doc

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Originally Posted by noonwitch

Never underestimate Biden. He may have a foot and mouth disorder sometimes, but he's not stupid.

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I disagree. I believe he is profoundly stupid. He should be Chancey Gardner.

Biden has a "funny uncle" quality about him. Ryan was asked about the debate and his opponent in an interview the other day, he doesn't believe it's a slam dunk due to Biden's "experience" in politics. I'm sure Biden has been schooled to not go off course.

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Originally Posted by djones520

The cynic in me thinks he was picked as an insurance policy.

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I agree.
Recalling the Dem primary debates in '08, this old adage also applies to both Clinton and Biden...Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer....especially Clinton.

I have a bad feeling about tonight, I hope Ryan comes with his A game. :blue:


I just picture biden coming out and spewing crap about lying and looking all folksy.

Ryan certainly isn't taking this for granted.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-10-18-02-37

It raises a very good point. Biden has been debating for as long as Ryan has been alive. Ryan has had one professional debate in his political career. In terms of experience, Ryan is way outclassed.

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Originally Posted by patriot45

:rotfl
And do what!!!:

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Probably charge them rent like he does his Secret Service detail.

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Originally Posted by patriot45

I guess I'm out of the loop, what mindless lib moonbat is helping biden practice his debating skills? Big bird?
And what poor conservative has to shame himself and be biden for Ryan!!?

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Biden has been practicing with former Delaware Senator Ted Kaufman, who has been describing Biden as "He was a happy warrior."

Ryan has been practicing with former U.S. solicitor general under President George W. Bush, Ted Olson. Who argued Bush ~Vs~ Gore in the elections, and also argued and won in tossing out Prop 8 in Cal. The guy knows how to argue and win.

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Originally Posted by djones520

It raises a very good point. Biden has been debating for as long as Ryan has been alive. Ryan has had one professional debate in his political career. In terms of experience, Ryan is way outclassed.

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Experience wise Biden has Ryan. Ryan has only had one real debate to-date. While Biden has 40 years under his belt. Plus Biden has often been described as "Enjoying Debates". Ryan has knowledge of the eccon. and taxes on his side.

What both sides need to watch for is;

JOE BIDEN
1. Stop the bleeding. Undo the blood bath caused by Obama.

2. Attack! He goes on the defensive, he's toast.

3. Win the budget/tax battle with Ryan.

4. Look experienced the stage on international issues. But avoid recent missteps in the news.

5. Don't look like a bully.

6. No major gaffes.

PAUL RYAN;
1. Build on last weeks major win.

2. Avoid the gloss, remember, K.I.S.S. when discussing the issues. Ryan some times likes to sound too complicated when discussing stuff.

3. Details. Generalizations won't cut it here. Such as "the issue is too complicated to discuss" will never fly here. He has some times done this when asked about topics.

4. Don't hide from Medicare and Social Security. Biden will bring both up.

5. Sound competent on foreign policy.

6. Look like a leader him self.