Evolution

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” ~ Albert Einstein~

“Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex…It takes a touch of genius – and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.” ~ Albert Einstein ~

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Einstein did not believe in a personal God. However, it is interesting how he arrived at that conclusion. In developing the theory of relativity, Einstein realized that the equations led to the conclusion that the universe had a beginning. He didn’t like the idea of a beginning, because he thought one would have to conclude that the universe was created by God. So, he added a cosmological constant to the equation to attempt to get rid of the beginning. He said this was one of the worst mistakes of his life. Of course, the results of Edwin Hubble confirmed that the universe was expanding and had a beginning at some point in the past.

Einstein recognized the remarkable design and order of the cosmos, but could not reconcile those characteristics with the evil and suffering he found in human existence. How could an all-powerful God allow the suffering that exists on earth?

Einstein’s failure to understand the motives of God are the result of his incorrect assumption that God intended this universe as His ultimate perfect creation. Einstein could not get past the moral problems that are present in our universe. He assumed, as most atheists do, that a personal God would only create a universe which is both good morally and perfect physically. Where Einstein erred was in that thinking that there was a god who designed the universe, but designed it in such as way as to allow evil without a purpose. If the universe were designed and it included evil, then there must have been a purpose for that evil. However, according to Christianity, the purpose of the universe is not to be morally or physically perfect, but to provide a place where spiritual creatures can choose to love or reject God – to live with Him forever in a new, perfect universe, or reject Him and live apart from Him for eternity. It would not be possible to make this choice in a universe in which all moral choices are restricted to only good ones. Einstein didn’t seem to understand that one could not choose between good and bad if bad did not exist. It’s amazing that such a brilliant man could not understand such a simple logical principle.

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Corinthians 1:27
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

What of evolution? Not only are the “links” missing; the entire chain is made of plastic! Geneticists (honest ones) conclude there must have been 150 BILLION forerunners of “modern man” in order for the preposterous idea of evolution (the atheist’s “religion”) to have taken place.

Some would do well to view Ben Stein’s documentary: Expelled. Where he documents many brillaint minds in the collegiant world who have been black balled from their jobs for daring to suggest intelligent design. With an economic knife to their throats (ie their jobs) why wouldnt scientist toe the evolutionist line? Losing one’s job and carreer would make anyone hesitate about being too bold with thier personal beliefs. It’s a shame that political correctness has flushed logical intelligent debate down the toilet. Ravi Zacharias would also be a good place to go for an intelligent explination of the impossibility the non existance of God.

Well the evolution of this thread has come to a standstill. Next up extinction. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by JB

Marv, if you're interested in this stuff, they are even changing/adapting these old theories.

First, those eggheads over in CERN are trying to replicate what happened immediately after the Big Bang. Granted, they can't replicate the BB but they are trying to get close.

Second, some guys (respected too) are postulating that the BB wasn't from nothing but was created from the collision of two universes that exist on different dimensions from us. Read up on multiverse and m-theory for more info. M Theory kinda makes me laugh (not because it might not be legit) because they came up with it to support the five different string theories they have going right now. At least that's where it was last time I read anything about it. M Theory needed 11 dimensions plus time to exist. Could be more by now. :biggrin-new:

Even the universe as we know it probably won't be around forever. Once it cools it will die and fade away or just be composed of particles that won't do much of anything, unless they bump into each other and create some new universes (or is it universi).

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You know you're in trouble when you have to invent a theory to prove a theory which was invented to prove a theory which was invented to prove a theory which was........etc!

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The crux of this whole matter is the insatiable need for humans to find an explanation of where things came from, and where thing go.

Everything in our experience, from galaxies to ants, has a begining and an ending. A birth and a death. Therefore we have creation for theists, and the Big Bang for scientists. And then we have an armageddon or rapture for theists, and the scientists can choose either the Big Crunch or the Big Freeze. To each his own.